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What's the deal with the infoboxes? The first one is redundant and pointless. The second isn't meant for articles like this. It's meant for wide-scale attacks on civilians. Not one man beaten to death by police. It should use a regular infobox person. Lara 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I understand that the circumstances around his death are not confirmed, but is this really all we can say in the lead: "a young Egyptian man who died under disputed circumstances"? Can't we be a little more specific and say:
What would be wrong with addressing those aspects in the lead? Ocaasi ( talk) 22:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
"a young Egyptian man who died under disputed circumstances"? Disputed or undisputed is irrelevant as the subject matter in its integrity is this young man's brutal killing by the plainclothes policemen that triggered a social wrath leading to the resignation of Hosni Mubarak. "Disputed, alleged" are cautious news reporting terminology. This is not crime or police reporting, this is history Therefore it is not the disputed or undisputed circumstances of the death of Khaled Said, it is the postmortem depiction. The phrase should be corrected as "... a young Egyptian man, arrested and beaten to death by 2 plain clothes Egyptian policemen" Benizmir 22:03 19 February 2011 (UTC)
So, anyway, how does one enter any sort of original content into wikipedia? Or is that just against the rules? I've talked to Khaleed's family and friends, and they have a slightly different view on this whole thing, that I personally trust more than the vague stuff your average journalist came up with without ever seeing that part of Alexandria. I could just make a lame-ass webpage and then reference that, but it seems really counterproductive. —Preceding
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What is the purpose of the post mortem picture? I read the discussion about its inclusion, but it does not address the purpose. USchick ( talk) 18:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Please read the copyright policy: Use of historic images from press agencies must only be used when the image itself is the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role, and is not allowed per policy).
Use of this photo on this page is in direct violation of copyright law, so I'm deleting it. No other article in any other language is using this photo. If you don't respect copyright law, please respect the dead. USchick ( talk) 18:48, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
The photo is a direct violation of copyright. Please read the policy. In order to avert an edit war, I have started a mediation dispute here Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2011-03-14/Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed USchick ( talk) 19:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
You can follow the discussion here Wikipedia:Non-free content review USchick ( talk) 00:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Maybe we should have a section about the facebook page "We are all khaled Saeed" in the article. Anyone wants to take a crack at it? I found this image that can go nicely with the section. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 01:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Ocaasi asked me before if any other wikipedia projects had any decent pages about the trail and I found one written in Egyptian arabic here. It deals with the trail from June 2010 until November 2010. Hope it helps. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 05:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Egypt Uprising solidarity Melbourne protest, 4 February 2011.png. Dcoetzee 02:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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The article states that the court would announce a verdict on June 30 (yesterday). Did that happen and what was it?
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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed →
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It seems a given that the death is a murder even though the trial has not concluded.
Reliable
sources
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>> Egypt police get 10 years for killing blogger ( Lihaas ( talk) 19:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)).
Moving from article. This edit addresses the alleged role of a named 'facebook page creator' without providing a source. To protecting living persons, I have removed the individual's name until a reliable source can be provided. Note that <ref name=WAAKS/> was included but no such reference exists.
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What's the deal with the infoboxes? The first one is redundant and pointless. The second isn't meant for articles like this. It's meant for wide-scale attacks on civilians. Not one man beaten to death by police. It should use a regular infobox person. Lara 00:22, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I understand that the circumstances around his death are not confirmed, but is this really all we can say in the lead: "a young Egyptian man who died under disputed circumstances"? Can't we be a little more specific and say:
What would be wrong with addressing those aspects in the lead? Ocaasi ( talk) 22:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
"a young Egyptian man who died under disputed circumstances"? Disputed or undisputed is irrelevant as the subject matter in its integrity is this young man's brutal killing by the plainclothes policemen that triggered a social wrath leading to the resignation of Hosni Mubarak. "Disputed, alleged" are cautious news reporting terminology. This is not crime or police reporting, this is history Therefore it is not the disputed or undisputed circumstances of the death of Khaled Said, it is the postmortem depiction. The phrase should be corrected as "... a young Egyptian man, arrested and beaten to death by 2 plain clothes Egyptian policemen" Benizmir 22:03 19 February 2011 (UTC)
So, anyway, how does one enter any sort of original content into wikipedia? Or is that just against the rules? I've talked to Khaleed's family and friends, and they have a slightly different view on this whole thing, that I personally trust more than the vague stuff your average journalist came up with without ever seeing that part of Alexandria. I could just make a lame-ass webpage and then reference that, but it seems really counterproductive. —Preceding
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What is the purpose of the post mortem picture? I read the discussion about its inclusion, but it does not address the purpose. USchick ( talk) 18:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Please read the copyright policy: Use of historic images from press agencies must only be used when the image itself is the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role, and is not allowed per policy).
Use of this photo on this page is in direct violation of copyright law, so I'm deleting it. No other article in any other language is using this photo. If you don't respect copyright law, please respect the dead. USchick ( talk) 18:48, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
The photo is a direct violation of copyright. Please read the policy. In order to avert an edit war, I have started a mediation dispute here Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2011-03-14/Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed USchick ( talk) 19:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
You can follow the discussion here Wikipedia:Non-free content review USchick ( talk) 00:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Maybe we should have a section about the facebook page "We are all khaled Saeed" in the article. Anyone wants to take a crack at it? I found this image that can go nicely with the section. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 01:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Ocaasi asked me before if any other wikipedia projects had any decent pages about the trail and I found one written in Egyptian arabic here. It deals with the trail from June 2010 until November 2010. Hope it helps. -- The Egyptian Liberal ( talk) 05:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Egypt Uprising solidarity Melbourne protest, 4 February 2011.png. Dcoetzee 02:14, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
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The article states that the court would announce a verdict on June 30 (yesterday). Did that happen and what was it?
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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:19, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Death of Khaled Mohamed Saeed →
Murder of Khaled Mohamed Saeed – Relisted
Vegaswikian (
talk)
19:26, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
It seems a given that the death is a murder even though the trial has not concluded.
Reliable
sources
are
calling
it that.
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00:49, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=104936, http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/22/the-revolution-comes-to-egypt.html or similar. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:09, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
>> Egypt police get 10 years for killing blogger ( Lihaas ( talk) 19:01, 3 March 2014 (UTC)).
Moving from article. This edit addresses the alleged role of a named 'facebook page creator' without providing a source. To protecting living persons, I have removed the individual's name until a reliable source can be provided. Note that <ref name=WAAKS/> was included but no such reference exists.
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