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I notice some significant differences between what this article says and what the James Dean article says. The account of his death in that article should just be a summary of what is described in more detail in this article, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
(There may also be other differences that I didn't notice.) — BarrelProof ( talk) 20:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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Were any of the involved cars equipped with seat belts, and were they being used?
As a side note, the modern three-point seat belt was only invented in 1958 in Sweden.
Here is some info on seat belts: https://www.defensivedriving.com/blog/a-history-of-seat-belts/ Maikel ( talk) 12:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
The Porsche was a racecar, so a discussion of seatbelts should go beyond what was factory equipped. Mcsew2k ( talk) 15:53, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Under the section "Funeral and memorial" it is stated that "The original Highway 41 and 46 junction where the collision occurred is now a pasture, and the two roadways were realigned over the decades to make them safer." I do not believe the first part of this sentence is correct. If you input the coordinates of the intersection ( 35°44′5″N 120°17′4″W / 35.73472°N 120.28444°W) into the viewer on the website historicaerials.com and use the compare function to compare aerial photographs of the junction between 1956 and 2018 (or even 1981) you can see that the junction is still in roughly the same location. The only differences are that the alignment of SR46 (formerly US466) shifted south very slightly when it was widened; and turn lanes were added to the junction, notably to make turning left from 46E to 41N safer (the turn Turnupseed made). The addition of these turn lanes shifted this portion of the junction ever so slightly eastward, but it does not appear that the original intersection was located in a pasture as this section states.
This confusion appears to extend to the page California State Route 46 (see citation needed under History section), the Death section on the main James Dean page (see the caption under the memorial junction photo) and possibly others, where it is stated that the actual accident location is approximately 100ft south of the modern junction. This does not appear to be correct either. If you follow the 1956/2018 aerial comparison eastward along US466/SR46 ~1000ft past the SR41 junction you can see the historic and modern roads diverge, with the old road following a more winding path south of the modern road, so it is possible this divergence was assumed to continue through and include the junction (if you are moving along 46W from Polonio Pass). Additionally, there are now service roads on either side of the highways so I believe it is being assumed that the southern service road was the historic location of US466 and therefore that the junction itself was historically located 100ft south of its modern location when this does to appear to have been the case. Of course this does assume that the alignment of the aerial photographs on the above website is very precise.
Corrections are welcome! — Wildnfree84 ( talk) 02:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
I drove through this area yesterday (6 DEC 2022) and noticed extensive road construction in progress in the area of the James Dean Memorial and that the cafe appears permanently closed. Does anyone know what the fate of the James Dean Memorial will be as a result? Mcsew2k ( talk) 15:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Winton was his uncle, not his dad 47.157.117.96 ( talk) 08:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
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I notice some significant differences between what this article says and what the James Dean article says. The account of his death in that article should just be a summary of what is described in more detail in this article, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
(There may also be other differences that I didn't notice.) — BarrelProof ( talk) 20:38, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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Were any of the involved cars equipped with seat belts, and were they being used?
As a side note, the modern three-point seat belt was only invented in 1958 in Sweden.
Here is some info on seat belts: https://www.defensivedriving.com/blog/a-history-of-seat-belts/ Maikel ( talk) 12:05, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
The Porsche was a racecar, so a discussion of seatbelts should go beyond what was factory equipped. Mcsew2k ( talk) 15:53, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Under the section "Funeral and memorial" it is stated that "The original Highway 41 and 46 junction where the collision occurred is now a pasture, and the two roadways were realigned over the decades to make them safer." I do not believe the first part of this sentence is correct. If you input the coordinates of the intersection ( 35°44′5″N 120°17′4″W / 35.73472°N 120.28444°W) into the viewer on the website historicaerials.com and use the compare function to compare aerial photographs of the junction between 1956 and 2018 (or even 1981) you can see that the junction is still in roughly the same location. The only differences are that the alignment of SR46 (formerly US466) shifted south very slightly when it was widened; and turn lanes were added to the junction, notably to make turning left from 46E to 41N safer (the turn Turnupseed made). The addition of these turn lanes shifted this portion of the junction ever so slightly eastward, but it does not appear that the original intersection was located in a pasture as this section states.
This confusion appears to extend to the page California State Route 46 (see citation needed under History section), the Death section on the main James Dean page (see the caption under the memorial junction photo) and possibly others, where it is stated that the actual accident location is approximately 100ft south of the modern junction. This does not appear to be correct either. If you follow the 1956/2018 aerial comparison eastward along US466/SR46 ~1000ft past the SR41 junction you can see the historic and modern roads diverge, with the old road following a more winding path south of the modern road, so it is possible this divergence was assumed to continue through and include the junction (if you are moving along 46W from Polonio Pass). Additionally, there are now service roads on either side of the highways so I believe it is being assumed that the southern service road was the historic location of US466 and therefore that the junction itself was historically located 100ft south of its modern location when this does to appear to have been the case. Of course this does assume that the alignment of the aerial photographs on the above website is very precise.
Corrections are welcome! — Wildnfree84 ( talk) 02:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
I drove through this area yesterday (6 DEC 2022) and noticed extensive road construction in progress in the area of the James Dean Memorial and that the cafe appears permanently closed. Does anyone know what the fate of the James Dean Memorial will be as a result? Mcsew2k ( talk) 15:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Winton was his uncle, not his dad 47.157.117.96 ( talk) 08:08, 8 June 2023 (UTC)