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With this edit, Costello628 ( talk · contribs) added "June 16" to the 2008 death date given for the death of Caylee Anthony. The death date of this child was never confirmed, however, and the "June 16" death date is the one argued by the defense team, which makes listing it in the lead as though it is fact a dubious and biased matter. With this edit, Samsara rightly reverted Costello628. Then Bali88 readded the date, stating, "Replaced date of death. Everyone, including Casey, seems to agree that the child died on that specific day. I think it's reasonable to state that the death occurred that day." I reverted Bali88, stating, "Who is 'everyone'? And how can we trust Casey's word? Unless a WP:Reliable source is there for it, we should leave it as it [is] because we don't know. [...] The woman barely told the truth at all."
Judging by your edits to this article and the Timeline of the Casey Anthony case article (which is also on my WP:Watchlist), Bali88, I know that you believe the defense team. But we need to keep our biases on this topic (yes, everyone has a bias on this topic) out of the article. Flyer22 ( talk) 03:51, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Please change under the bold Investigation section stating: "On December 11, 2008, Kronk again called the police. They searched and found the remains of a child in a trash bag.[3]" to: "On December 11, 2008, Kronk again called the police. They searched and found the scattered remains of a child near a trash bag." PLEASE CHANGE THE SOURCE! (the correct information can be found here: https://statevcasey.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/the-duct-tape/ --- under the bold Analysis section. It states: "The vertebrae bones were found together and the trunk bones (pelvis, etc.) were found together, but they were found in separate areas from the skull and with some carnivore damage. Dr. Shultz testified that this implied that there was still tissue attaching these bones together when they were moved by animals (read report). This means that the child decomposed outside of the bag, not inside.") thank you. Mjohnson1807 ( talk) 22:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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Out of curiosity, would it be appropriate to include a non-free image of Caylee in the article for visual identification purposes? Other articles of this nature have done so.-- GouramiWatcher Talk 21:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Twice now, I have reverted edits MisterCake made to the Disappearance section. That is seen here and here, with a followup note here. Going by MisterCake's explanations of his changes, as documented here and here, MisterCake is trying to balance the section, based on what the defense argued, but I see WP:False balance in MisterCake's edits; I see content being added that generally was not covered in sources (which brings WP:Due weight into question) and an attempt to make George Anthony look suspicious, such as the following unsourced WP:Editorializing bit: "George also seemed to remember everything about e. g. what Caylee wore, despite his not being asked until a month later." This is despite the fact that the defense argued that George was involved in Caylee's death...without a bit of evidence to back up the assertion. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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If Caylee drowned, why would duct tape be needed. Everyone backed peddled and stories kept changing. Still no proof of drowning. What DROWNING victim needs duct tape over their mouths to be buried? Beckyponce6 ( talk) 08:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
In reading Death of Caylee Anthony I've again found another reoccurring issue with wikipedia that at times, frustrates me... In reading the "Aftermath" section of the article, statements made by someone called "Mason" are included in the first 2 paragraphs... WHO THE HECK IS MASON??? Even the sited references don't quote this "Mason." So who is he or she? Often in more current events I'm finding statements and quotes by people with only a single surname and no full name or indication of who they are or the relation they have to the subject. Are they experts? Is this "Mason" so well known that the words spoken is gospel and I'm some backwoods moron for not knowing who "Mason" obviously is? I always seem to run into these names and find myself stumped because the statements seem to be of expertise on the subject but can't be certain of the validity because whoever cut and pasted or simply added the statement failed in the least to give them a full name! Even if you fail to reference a persons background in the field you should start the first mentioning with a FULL FREAKIN' NAME!!! I have a feeling this is not the end of this gripe... JericVgilbert ( talk) 12:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
J. Cheney Mason Got it! Yes I was pretty pent up with the search for that one so yes I went all dramatic! But I do think this quoting experts by a single name gets difficult to follow after so much reading. I mean, If a person has a 3 to 6 lawyer defense team a single name reference isn't going to always float when mentioned further down. JericVgilbert ( talk) 12:11, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Caylee (name) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 02:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Should there be included in this article a separate section of pop culture relevance? Ex. Marcia Clark's "re-opening" of the discussion surrounding the case on A&E, where she brings in experts from the original trial? The Casey Anthony episode debuted March 29, 2018. (For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjjvJHo-10.) JDBrant ( talk) 19:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Casey Anthony 2017 Interview: https://apnews.com/c36cea8e48364edeba200e6e666997a6
Roy Kronk loses defamation case against Casey Anthony: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/01/14/casey-anthony-scores-another-legal-victory-in-defamation-lawsuit/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.180.13 ( talk) 03:47, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
according to Criminal Psychology channel on Youtube, there was a diary. Was that not used as evidence against her? פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 17:39, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Just before citation [35], it states that Kronk called police on three dates in August. It should be December. Ibmxgeo ( talk) 01:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
In the "Witness testimony" section, it says "On June 30 and July 1, the prosecutor presented rebuttal arguments, beginning by showing the jury photographs of Caylee's clothes and George's suicide note." But this is the first mention of "suicide" in the article, so it makes no sense in the context. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
At the very end, under "Later information", it says "In January 2020, Kronk lost an appeal of his defamation case against Anthony and her attorneys. A US District Court judge upheld a lower court finding that there was not enough evidence to prove she willfully defamed Kronk." But there is no other mention of this case (least of all in the "Civil suits" section where it belongs) or what it alleges. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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What does this date mean? Was Cayley 2 when she died, or 3? “ Caylee Marie Anthony (August 9, 2005 – June-December 2008) ” 2601:343:C202:4430:9591:3D95:F36F:B23D ( talk) 00:41, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
The skeletal remains found were of THREE year old Caylee, not TWO 66.11.103.46 ( talk) 02:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Page is full of faulty statements in which are supported by broken links that cannot be edited out. Please discard the allegations with broken links. 74.97.27.39 ( talk) 08:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Valid and equally strong points have been raised by all sides of the discussion, and I don't see a consensus to arrive at a conclusive title. While a typical no consensus closure would see that the article remain at the current title, "Killing of", however as noted by Amakuru in the discussion, the article was moved to "Killing of" title in May 2022 undiscussed, and per WP:NOCON, the title should be moved back to the most recent prior stable title, "Death of". ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 00:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Killing of Caylee Anthony → Death of Caylee Anthony – This article was retitled to "killing of" over "death of" earlier this year. WP:"Murder_of"_articles indicates this isn't correct. In fact it uses the Caylee Anthony case as its example for when "killing of" should not be used, quote: "In the death of Caylee Anthony, the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as 'murder' under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as 'killing'." Shiningbell ( talk) 07:41, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated, the article still can't be titled "Murder of [victim]", but it should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".On that basis alone the proposal fails, while acknowledging the 'murder of' article is an essay, not a policy. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 19:28, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
"If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated"The "killing of" title would have been appropriate only before the end of the trial. Shiningbell ( talk) 23:20, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
In the
move discussion above just closed a few minutes ago,
robertsky improperly concluded that
Death of Caylee Anthony was a "stable" title without stating reasons. Per
WP:"Murder_of"_articles#"Killing_of"_articles, If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated...should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".
Two different sources in the infobox state that the medical examiner ruled homicide as a cause of death. If
Death of Caylee Anthony is imprecise, it cannot be stable. The page must be reverted back to
Killing of Caylee Anthony.
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The question of how the article should be titled pending the resolution of a discussion about its title is a separate issue from the closing of a discussion on the article title. I am addressing only the latter issue.
The discussion strikes me as having been closed at a point when further discussion could have been helpful, given that discussion had not continued for long and part of the rationale for closing discussion was that "Valid and equally strong points have been raised by all sides of the discussion". This seems like a context in which a RfC might have been helpful. Arllaw ( talk) 00:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. this belongs at WP:MRV ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk • contribs) 18:36, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Death of Caylee Anthony →
Killing of Caylee Anthony – Per
WP:"Murder_of"_articles#"Killing_of"_articles, If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated...should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".
The medical examiner ruled it as a homicide according to reliable source. The
previous move discussion was closed in error. A page with an imprecise title is not "stable."
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"If the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as "murder" under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as "killing". If a new prime suspect emerges, this does not apply."So it can't be said that is all that is required; on the contrary, the essay you've cited is saying that under the circumstances of this case, it should not be titled "Killing of...", because the prime suspect was found not guilty by a jury that adjudicated the ME's conclusions along with all the other evidence presented by the prosecution. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 03:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
by a coroner who ruled homicide as the cause of death." In this case, the coroner was unable to make a ruling on the cause of death. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 19:32, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated..."as indicated. However, the preceding paragraph right before that says
"If the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as "murder" under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as "killing". If a new prime suspect emerges, this does not apply."In this case, the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, then acquitted when the case was adjudicated. Based on the logic of the RM that started this thread (if we're using WP:MURDEROF as the guide here), the article should therefore neither be labeled "Murder of..." nor "killing of...", unless a new suspect gets indicted. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 22:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
In the passage:
" call made by Cindy, who said she had not seen Anthony for 31 days. According to what Cindy told the operators, Casey had given varied explanations as to Anthony's whereabouts before eventually saying she had not seen Anthony for weeks. Casey later called the police and falsely told a police dispatcher that Anthony had been kidnapped by a nanny on June 9. Casey was charged with first-degree murder in October 2008 and pled not guilty. On December 11, 2008, Anthony's skeletal remains were found with a blanket inside a laundry bag in a wooded area near the Anthony family's house. Investigative reports and trial testimony varied between duct tape being found near the front and mouth of the skull. The medical examiner listed Anthony's cause of death as "homicide by undetermined means"."
'Anthony' should be replaced with 'Caylee' 124.148.59.70 ( talk) 14:35, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
baez is spelt Biaz 2407:7000:840D:3A00:7B58:C154:9BE4:7D08 ( talk) 22:00, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Like in:
Investigation See also: Timeline of the Casey Anthony case
Those links redirect back, pages ware merged? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matkor ( talk • contribs) 13:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the disappearance portion of the page, they keep calling the child Anthony which makes it sound like the child is a boy. Perhaps it would be better if you changed all the mentions of Anthony and there are quite a few, to the child's actual name ...Caylee. 2001:56A:FBE3:6E00:C0C:D307:7815:241B ( talk) 19:58, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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In introduction, change line "Nancy Grace, who referred to Casey as "tot mom", was noted[by whom?] for the attention and corresponding publicity she gave the case" to "Nancy Grace, who referred to Casey as "tot mom", was notable for the attention and corresponding publicity she gave the case."
This gives context and already has sufficient references without having to reference outside sources. Megibbo2 ( talk) 04:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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With this edit, Costello628 ( talk · contribs) added "June 16" to the 2008 death date given for the death of Caylee Anthony. The death date of this child was never confirmed, however, and the "June 16" death date is the one argued by the defense team, which makes listing it in the lead as though it is fact a dubious and biased matter. With this edit, Samsara rightly reverted Costello628. Then Bali88 readded the date, stating, "Replaced date of death. Everyone, including Casey, seems to agree that the child died on that specific day. I think it's reasonable to state that the death occurred that day." I reverted Bali88, stating, "Who is 'everyone'? And how can we trust Casey's word? Unless a WP:Reliable source is there for it, we should leave it as it [is] because we don't know. [...] The woman barely told the truth at all."
Judging by your edits to this article and the Timeline of the Casey Anthony case article (which is also on my WP:Watchlist), Bali88, I know that you believe the defense team. But we need to keep our biases on this topic (yes, everyone has a bias on this topic) out of the article. Flyer22 ( talk) 03:51, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Please change under the bold Investigation section stating: "On December 11, 2008, Kronk again called the police. They searched and found the remains of a child in a trash bag.[3]" to: "On December 11, 2008, Kronk again called the police. They searched and found the scattered remains of a child near a trash bag." PLEASE CHANGE THE SOURCE! (the correct information can be found here: https://statevcasey.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/the-duct-tape/ --- under the bold Analysis section. It states: "The vertebrae bones were found together and the trunk bones (pelvis, etc.) were found together, but they were found in separate areas from the skull and with some carnivore damage. Dr. Shultz testified that this implied that there was still tissue attaching these bones together when they were moved by animals (read report). This means that the child decomposed outside of the bag, not inside.") thank you. Mjohnson1807 ( talk) 22:58, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
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Out of curiosity, would it be appropriate to include a non-free image of Caylee in the article for visual identification purposes? Other articles of this nature have done so.-- GouramiWatcher Talk 21:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Twice now, I have reverted edits MisterCake made to the Disappearance section. That is seen here and here, with a followup note here. Going by MisterCake's explanations of his changes, as documented here and here, MisterCake is trying to balance the section, based on what the defense argued, but I see WP:False balance in MisterCake's edits; I see content being added that generally was not covered in sources (which brings WP:Due weight into question) and an attempt to make George Anthony look suspicious, such as the following unsourced WP:Editorializing bit: "George also seemed to remember everything about e. g. what Caylee wore, despite his not being asked until a month later." This is despite the fact that the defense argued that George was involved in Caylee's death...without a bit of evidence to back up the assertion. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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If Caylee drowned, why would duct tape be needed. Everyone backed peddled and stories kept changing. Still no proof of drowning. What DROWNING victim needs duct tape over their mouths to be buried? Beckyponce6 ( talk) 08:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
In reading Death of Caylee Anthony I've again found another reoccurring issue with wikipedia that at times, frustrates me... In reading the "Aftermath" section of the article, statements made by someone called "Mason" are included in the first 2 paragraphs... WHO THE HECK IS MASON??? Even the sited references don't quote this "Mason." So who is he or she? Often in more current events I'm finding statements and quotes by people with only a single surname and no full name or indication of who they are or the relation they have to the subject. Are they experts? Is this "Mason" so well known that the words spoken is gospel and I'm some backwoods moron for not knowing who "Mason" obviously is? I always seem to run into these names and find myself stumped because the statements seem to be of expertise on the subject but can't be certain of the validity because whoever cut and pasted or simply added the statement failed in the least to give them a full name! Even if you fail to reference a persons background in the field you should start the first mentioning with a FULL FREAKIN' NAME!!! I have a feeling this is not the end of this gripe... JericVgilbert ( talk) 12:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
J. Cheney Mason Got it! Yes I was pretty pent up with the search for that one so yes I went all dramatic! But I do think this quoting experts by a single name gets difficult to follow after so much reading. I mean, If a person has a 3 to 6 lawyer defense team a single name reference isn't going to always float when mentioned further down. JericVgilbert ( talk) 12:11, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Caylee (name) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 02:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Should there be included in this article a separate section of pop culture relevance? Ex. Marcia Clark's "re-opening" of the discussion surrounding the case on A&E, where she brings in experts from the original trial? The Casey Anthony episode debuted March 29, 2018. (For reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjjvJHo-10.) JDBrant ( talk) 19:57, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
Casey Anthony 2017 Interview: https://apnews.com/c36cea8e48364edeba200e6e666997a6
Roy Kronk loses defamation case against Casey Anthony: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/01/14/casey-anthony-scores-another-legal-victory-in-defamation-lawsuit/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.180.13 ( talk) 03:47, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
according to Criminal Psychology channel on Youtube, there was a diary. Was that not used as evidence against her? פשוט pashute ♫ ( talk) 17:39, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Just before citation [35], it states that Kronk called police on three dates in August. It should be December. Ibmxgeo ( talk) 01:55, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
In the "Witness testimony" section, it says "On June 30 and July 1, the prosecutor presented rebuttal arguments, beginning by showing the jury photographs of Caylee's clothes and George's suicide note." But this is the first mention of "suicide" in the article, so it makes no sense in the context. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:03, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
At the very end, under "Later information", it says "In January 2020, Kronk lost an appeal of his defamation case against Anthony and her attorneys. A US District Court judge upheld a lower court finding that there was not enough evidence to prove she willfully defamed Kronk." But there is no other mention of this case (least of all in the "Civil suits" section where it belongs) or what it alleges. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
New to editing and don't know exactly how to insert a semi-protected edit request (template is not helpful), but the current reference link #62 is dead. Archive.org version of the site is here. I'll keep looking through the other links and clean up once I can edit semi-protected articles. -- RookWeaver ( talk) 09:07, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
What does this date mean? Was Cayley 2 when she died, or 3? “ Caylee Marie Anthony (August 9, 2005 – June-December 2008) ” 2601:343:C202:4430:9591:3D95:F36F:B23D ( talk) 00:41, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
The skeletal remains found were of THREE year old Caylee, not TWO 66.11.103.46 ( talk) 02:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Page is full of faulty statements in which are supported by broken links that cannot be edited out. Please discard the allegations with broken links. 74.97.27.39 ( talk) 08:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Valid and equally strong points have been raised by all sides of the discussion, and I don't see a consensus to arrive at a conclusive title. While a typical no consensus closure would see that the article remain at the current title, "Killing of", however as noted by Amakuru in the discussion, the article was moved to "Killing of" title in May 2022 undiscussed, and per WP:NOCON, the title should be moved back to the most recent prior stable title, "Death of". ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 00:50, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Killing of Caylee Anthony → Death of Caylee Anthony – This article was retitled to "killing of" over "death of" earlier this year. WP:"Murder_of"_articles indicates this isn't correct. In fact it uses the Caylee Anthony case as its example for when "killing of" should not be used, quote: "In the death of Caylee Anthony, the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as 'murder' under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as 'killing'." Shiningbell ( talk) 07:41, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated, the article still can't be titled "Murder of [victim]", but it should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".On that basis alone the proposal fails, while acknowledging the 'murder of' article is an essay, not a policy. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 19:28, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
"If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated"The "killing of" title would have been appropriate only before the end of the trial. Shiningbell ( talk) 23:20, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
In the
move discussion above just closed a few minutes ago,
robertsky improperly concluded that
Death of Caylee Anthony was a "stable" title without stating reasons. Per
WP:"Murder_of"_articles#"Killing_of"_articles, If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated...should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".
Two different sources in the infobox state that the medical examiner ruled homicide as a cause of death. If
Death of Caylee Anthony is imprecise, it cannot be stable. The page must be reverted back to
Killing of Caylee Anthony.
Kire1975 (
talk) 01:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
The question of how the article should be titled pending the resolution of a discussion about its title is a separate issue from the closing of a discussion on the article title. I am addressing only the latter issue.
The discussion strikes me as having been closed at a point when further discussion could have been helpful, given that discussion had not continued for long and part of the rationale for closing discussion was that "Valid and equally strong points have been raised by all sides of the discussion". This seems like a context in which a RfC might have been helpful. Arllaw ( talk) 00:58, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. this belongs at WP:MRV ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Mdaniels5757 ( talk • contribs) 18:36, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Death of Caylee Anthony →
Killing of Caylee Anthony – Per
WP:"Murder_of"_articles#"Killing_of"_articles, If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated...should also not be titled "Death of [victim]", as this would be imprecise. Instead, the article should be titled "Killing of [victim]".
The medical examiner ruled it as a homicide according to reliable source. The
previous move discussion was closed in error. A page with an imprecise title is not "stable."
Kire1975 (
talk) 02:19, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
"If the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as "murder" under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as "killing". If a new prime suspect emerges, this does not apply."So it can't be said that is all that is required; on the contrary, the essay you've cited is saying that under the circumstances of this case, it should not be titled "Killing of...", because the prime suspect was found not guilty by a jury that adjudicated the ME's conclusions along with all the other evidence presented by the prosecution. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 03:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
by a coroner who ruled homicide as the cause of death." In this case, the coroner was unable to make a ruling on the cause of death. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 19:32, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
If foul play has been officially determined, such as by a coroner who ruled homicide as a cause of death, but a murder has not (yet) been adjudicated..."as indicated. However, the preceding paragraph right before that says
"If the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, and the public widely held beliefs of murder, but since this defendant was acquitted and legally can no longer be tried for murder, the case cannot be labeled as "murder" under Wikipedia guidelines. Likewise such a case should also not be labeled as "killing". If a new prime suspect emerges, this does not apply."In this case, the prime suspect was put on trial for murder, then acquitted when the case was adjudicated. Based on the logic of the RM that started this thread (if we're using WP:MURDEROF as the guide here), the article should therefore neither be labeled "Murder of..." nor "killing of...", unless a new suspect gets indicted. Regards, AzureCitizen ( talk) 22:23, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
In the passage:
" call made by Cindy, who said she had not seen Anthony for 31 days. According to what Cindy told the operators, Casey had given varied explanations as to Anthony's whereabouts before eventually saying she had not seen Anthony for weeks. Casey later called the police and falsely told a police dispatcher that Anthony had been kidnapped by a nanny on June 9. Casey was charged with first-degree murder in October 2008 and pled not guilty. On December 11, 2008, Anthony's skeletal remains were found with a blanket inside a laundry bag in a wooded area near the Anthony family's house. Investigative reports and trial testimony varied between duct tape being found near the front and mouth of the skull. The medical examiner listed Anthony's cause of death as "homicide by undetermined means"."
'Anthony' should be replaced with 'Caylee' 124.148.59.70 ( talk) 14:35, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
baez is spelt Biaz 2407:7000:840D:3A00:7B58:C154:9BE4:7D08 ( talk) 22:00, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
Like in:
Investigation See also: Timeline of the Casey Anthony case
Those links redirect back, pages ware merged? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matkor ( talk • contribs) 13:39, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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In the disappearance portion of the page, they keep calling the child Anthony which makes it sound like the child is a boy. Perhaps it would be better if you changed all the mentions of Anthony and there are quite a few, to the child's actual name ...Caylee. 2001:56A:FBE3:6E00:C0C:D307:7815:241B ( talk) 19:58, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
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In introduction, change line "Nancy Grace, who referred to Casey as "tot mom", was noted[by whom?] for the attention and corresponding publicity she gave the case" to "Nancy Grace, who referred to Casey as "tot mom", was notable for the attention and corresponding publicity she gave the case."
This gives context and already has sufficient references without having to reference outside sources. Megibbo2 ( talk) 04:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)