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I notice if you do a search for "spiritual healing" you're redirected to "Faith Healing". However, "Spiritual Healing" gets you to the album page. Would it make sense to rename the page as "Spiritual Healing (album)" or somehow alter the redirect page to a disambiguation one? These comments also added to the album discussion page. IainP (talk) 23:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Citation or some proof of true existence needed. Otherwise, article should be deleted for irrelevance and no proof of existence. -- Ryouga 01:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll wait for a little while and see if anyone knows something (they can post here or on my talk). If we get nothing, we'll dismiss it as non existent garbage, and then delete it. -- Ryouga 20:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I have never heard of such an EP released by Death. I have recently done some research and have even gone to the releases section of the Empty Words website: Releases. I have searched the list of releases and have found no proof of the Death EP. Therefore, I believe it is safe to say that this EP is non-existent, and must be removed. -- Insineratehymn
I found it interesting that, out of the blue, someone from the "Bay Area" (according to their IP address) edited the Death (band) page to re-write history re: John Hand. Suddenly Hand's contribution went from merely appearing in the Scream Bloody Gore album photos to 'co-writing 20 songs with Chuck and Chris'.
This flies in the face of every, single band biography available on the net. Every fan (or student of death metal) knows that John Hand did not record or play a single gig with Death. This is not meant as a slam against Hand, but simply the correct telling of history. Chuck often said that Hand got a 'great deal' out of his association with Death: namely, from being in the band 'two weeks' his face and name are forever associated with one of the pioneer death metal releases. The fact remains that Chuck played all guitar parts on that first Death album, and hence received the royalties and payments in perpetuity for that release.
I certainly wonder who it was from the San Francisco area that thought it quaint to sneak in and change what really happened after all these years...I'm not insinuating that it was John Hand himself, but if it was he could have the decency to come forth (finally) to dispute head-on what is accepted as the story of the band instead of (possibly) taking this back door approach...It would mean Hand challenging for the first time Chuck's contract with Combat in hopes of battling out royalties due - and that is a ridiculous notion because Hand was never due a single penny.
I don't know if this matters anymore because I have no clue when this was posted, but I went back and did some research about the "John Hand" situation. And discovered that Hand only contributed to the Scream Bloody Gore album photos. So the user above was right. I believe though that they should sight some resources so that if there is any question to whether the article is relevant or not, other people will be able to check and see for themselves.
Catherine Slaughter
XxNo.One.RunsxX
14:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Isn't this where Death started being technical?
No. It started with Human. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.155.191 ( talk) 07:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Why yes it was Chuck had started to head in that direction, he actually said more than once that if he did not the haters would start to tear at Scream and the fact that alot of the riffs were easy to play
on the john hand matter, i wish eirc would stop thinking john wants money for his involvement with scream, nope the mems are good enough so stop trying to diminish what he did do
Did Chuck use additional effects to change his voice on that Judas Priest cover song ? I Mean, some parts aren't "growled", so you can hear harmonics in the voice at some moments, but did he use computer effects of something like that to sound more acute, or could he really sing like that ?
Actually, originally he wanted Ronnie James Dio, he never wanted to do vocals for Control Denied.
Death (band) - History
"22:25, 23 April 2007 Sn0wflake (Talk | contribs) m (16,376 bytes) (Let's settle for not using such arbitrary definitions. Death's style is quite complex, and has mostly used elements from both genres throughout their career.)"
---> Using "Progressive Metal" definition for this band is arbitrary aswell, that's the denomination you'll get after listening a couple(or more) prog-metal bands, not before that, and without that, you wouldn't even think to relate DEATH in any way with the term "progressive"; DEATH doesn't have a single one, clear prog rock influence (as a progrocker I can't find any in their music, and the album that is called the most "proggie" from them is very far from "prog" music). Most of prog-metal bands have a clear or very recognizable prog rock influence on their music, still, some prog-heads don't accept those bands that much as truly progressive, but that's most of times a fact of narrow-mind. Complex, melodic, doesn't make one band progressive, the term "technical" will fit better than "progressive" in many metal bands like this, and will clear the doubt for new people in the prog genre, and of course this will help to improve wikipedia, taking out the fan's or non-neutral oppinion from the articles of this online encyclopedia, thanks. – Progrocker7 02:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
While I dont think Death were ever death metal and progressive at the same time, i disagree with them being called "progressive death metal" (see the talk page for chuck schuldiner). Death's early works were also very thrashy ( deathrash), but theyre definitely death. However, when Chuck took the band in the progressive direction, they became less death metal (and they were never as heavy as the death metal bands coming out at that time). Prog metal isn't supposed to sound like prog rock...metal isn't supposed to sound like rock. Keep that in mind. Two different genres. As you're a "progrocker" yourself, I understand youre perhaps not going to understand. Deaths music wasnt nearly as technical as techdeath bands, but it definitely was progressive. See: talk page for chuck. Isilioth 02:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Hehe, thanks for answering, but I'm sorry, I don't need to read those, because I know all of that very much and of course have a well-formed discernment about music, indeed, I do respect Death's music and some metal music, and of course prog-metal bands who are really progressive basing their sound in metal obviously, but they are influenced by at least 1 or more recognizable prog rock bands, no doubt about that, and being really accurate that's the only way to be truly prog-metal and not just technical metal disguised of "prog", and by they way I never said metal is supposed to sound like rock, metal is metal. And how trustable is for you wikipedia in this kind of things?, I think many of the bands information here were done by fans, not experts in the genre, that's what makes it unbalanced, and to be only non-neutral, nor expert, fan's appreciation, nothing more.
And something else, Death are progressive like..? name at least 1 prog rock band (not metal nor prog-metal bands), it seems you won't be able to cite any because they haven't any prog root, since that's the only way to be accepted by the neutral point of view and the experience, of an expert of prog music as a real prog-metal band, I think that's the only trustable way or source in matters of prog.
Then "x" band is starting to be considered as progressive by FANS, not experts in prog, only fans of this "x" band, could you really trust them?, and if this band doesn't have any clear prog rock root, why to consider them progressive?, you see there's no single reason to do that; and why not just simply stay out of "prog" denomination and all this term involves? why to not just say it's complex metal instead?, thanks. – Progrocker7 19:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
— I may not be the authority on prog in this site, yes, but I just cited how the term progressive metal really appeared and was accepted by the prog community -for your knowledge-, prog-heads are way more reliable than any internet source if you have noticed it this far (I really hope you'd). Repeating unreliable and not expert sources (you said MTV was a good source), is as bad as posting your own unbalanced oppinion, Wikidan829, and why do you say I'm not an expert in prog?? how could you possibly say that if you don't really know me??... Trust me, when it comes to prog I know what I'm talking about. – Progrocker7 02:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Death is Technical Death Metal. When they got progressive, they still had the Death Metal styling, making them progressive death metal, or technical death metal. They were never just progressive, so progressive metal does not apply to them. MTV is not a reliable source. They try to redefine things. MTV would consider deathcore bands death metal, and many other mistakes. XXMurderSoulXx ( talk) 19:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I think melodic death metal should be added. They're later stuff (sound perseverance for example) is definitely melodeath. he uses a higher pithched vocal style, melodic riffs et c. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.155.191 ( talk) 13:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the line commenting that The Philosopher was written as a "lyrical slam" as someone put it against Paul Masvidal because of an ambigious reference which is basically..
"Interestingly, the lyrics on ITP were quite angry, in contrast to the gore-oriented earlier albums and more spiritual later ones. The lyrics arose from Schuldiner's frustrations with the music industry, including lack of label promotion and legal altercations with Death manager Eric Greif (who produced Morbid Saint's Spectrum of Death) and various former bandmates."
If you can find a better reference add it back in but otherwise leave it.
No lyrics written by Death would ever be a driect slam of someone they might have had more meaning to Chuck like that but they were directed at a large group becuase that is how his music was written. Songs such as "The Philosopher" are talking about people who think they are smart and know everything but in realality know nothing about what they are talking about that is true. However lyrics can be interpeted in many ways so do not put anything on the page about lyrical meanings. For further proof of how lyrics can be interpeted differently look up the PMRC and how they didn't understand the song "Under the Knife" by Twisted Sister.
Metalocalypse 13:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)Metalocalypse
Metalocalypse
13:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Please see the posting below. I agree with you in a general sense Metalocalypse, but Chuck admitted in interviews, etc. at the time that ITP contained personal slams on at least two folks - his former manager (half the album) and Masvidal (The Philosopher), who has always been into eastern philosophy and is openly gay but during the Human tour had not 'come out yet' (and neither had Reinert, who is also openly gay and came out during the late 90s). This needs to be encyclopedic, which isn't necessarily flattering about those we edit about. However, Chuck did state in interviews for Symbolic that his experience writing for ITP was important to him personally since it got out a lot of frustration. This isn't about censorship but about writing what we find to be accurate. Best, A Sniper 10:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
"but Chuck admitted in interviews" - again A Sniper, if Chuck admitted in interviews why is it that all you can produce is a comment from someone claiming to be Eric Grief? And I would assume you also have some evidence for claiming both Paul and Sean are gay? If you don't I'd suggest removing your comments. Wikipedia is increasingly growing in credibility with the information it provides and hence what we write should not be based on second hand information or rumors. I quote from directly below this box, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable."
Final Thoughts (
talk)
01:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the reference to a better one and added back the Masvidal mention. Sorry but historical revisionism has no place at Wikipedia. Anyone in the know about Schuldiner & Death are aware that 'The Philosopher' is about Masvidal. Ex-manager Greif mentions it at the usually-accurate Blabbermouth (run by former Schuldiner fan/friend Borivoj Krgin):
"Chuck told me himself on the phone (in 1993), at a time when we were in the midst of a lawsuit over business stuff, that he had written The Philosopher about Paul and "half" his new album (I.T.P.) about me. I'm not proud of this, but it is a fact nevertheless. There is a lot of anger on that record, lyrically, but that represented the way things were back then. Chuck himself, in an interview I saw on YouTube (re: the release of Symbolic), said that he got out a lot of anger writing those I.T.P. lyrics, so it did serve a purpose. ERIC"
This should end the debate. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to ITP album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to Live in LA album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to Live in Eindhoven album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to The Sound of Perseverance album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
I, as former Manager of Death at the time Chuck drew his more streamlined band logo (prior to the release of Human), have given a fair use rationale for use of it, including the fact that we allowed anyone and everyone to duplicate it (as long as it was not involved in commercial gain), and I hereby remove the warning. Griffyguy
If anyone needs a reference for Kam Lee designing the original logo, it can be found here: http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/interviews/kamlee.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Durandal1717 ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you could come to this page before making your sweeping edits and rather non-good faith statements against the regular editors who do our best to keep this page accurate and NPOV. Best, A Sniper 15:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
All FUR templates finished for remaining Death covers that were under threat. I thereby blanked all the warnings. A Sniper 17:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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I made a search for the word mantas and I was directed here. If it is a previous band, than why does it direct here? Anyway, mantas are a item woven by native tribesmen in the amazon and I wanted to see what the wikipedia article on them said. Oh well. Contralya ( talk) 03:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I regret that the above user appears to be trolling articles I've contributed to and making blanking attempts, deletions, and whatever else. This appears to be based on malicious intent (for want of any other explanation) and not on verifiability, good faith or interest in the article topics. Sooner or later this user will work his/her way from the Chuck Schuldiner article over to this page. Cheers, A Sniper ( talk) 21:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
should not be included in genres as it is a redirect of Technical death metal which is also a listed genre.
Agreed, but I have addded Progressive metal to the genres as this side of the band needs to be adressed. And sign your comments. Johan Rachmaninov ( talk) 22:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
To
User:A Sniper:
Hi. Almost the whole article is totally unsourced and is almost completely
unverifiable. Do not understand it as an offence, but that is just a fact and the readers should be informed about it. There are some sources in the infobox, in the
lead section and also in the "Memebers" section, but the Biography - the main body of the article is just simply unsourced except for one single sentence. See for example
Slayer or
Metallica to have a picture about how a sourced article looks like. Almost every sentence should have an
inline citation.
On the other hand, I did not read the sources. If the sources cover the text in the article, just add the inline citations to the text (just like in
Slayer or
Metallica)! And the problem will be fixed! But if there are no inline citations, the reader does not know what is sourced and what not. So if there are sources, just use them as inline citations:
Use this once for each source:
<ref name="NAME (for example BlahBlah1)">{{cite web
| url = http://???
| publisher =
| title =
| author =
| accessdate = YYYY-MM-DD
}}</ref>
And then use the source again with:
<ref name="NAME (for example BlahBlah1)" />
Cheers :) --
LYKANTROP
20:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion there doesn't need to be too much information on the two roadies that went on the tour of Europe with bassist Terry Butler and drummer Bill Andrews. Mentioning their names is by far enough weight to the story - anything else is undue. Butler and Andrews had no legal authority to undertake the tour (as Schuldiner was the proprietor of 'Death', as mentioned in almost every biography) and they were sacked from the band upon their return home. Therefore, biographical or incidental information on the two roadies is irrelevant. They literally did the tour as 'players' at the last minute, and due exclusively to their proximity to Butler and Andrews due to being band roadies. By the way: these two folks once had their own articles, but these were deleted due to a lack of notoriety. That they were once members of a defunct band is trivia and unconnected. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 00:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
fascist. Skulduggery88 ( talk) 16:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
too bad. 86.128.164.43 ( talk) 19:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
An online fanzine had an interview with Chuck in which, true to Chuck's nature, he stated that he didn't feel that he should take the credit for the term 'death metal'. This was Chuck being humble and modest. the user has tried to use the reference to show that, actually, the band Death were NOT death metal. The edits have been reverted. I have used the adverb 'modestly' as any reader can gather this from the reference itself - that Chuck was not wanting to lay claim to a title that has been internationally bestowed on him and one that made him feel uncomfortable yet proud. Thoughts? Best, A Sniper ( talk) 20:43, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
If "any reader can gather this from the reference itself," your adverb need not be added. Also, how do you know how Schuldiner felt? Do you have a quote from him saying that he felt "uncomfortable yet proud"? No? Then back off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
"use of such terms as back off are unacceptable." Stay cool, man! Also, I love how the only part of my comment you address is my injunction to you. That's wonderful.
"if you have a problem with an edit, then " I do, but then you instantly revert them, don't you?
Please don't talk to me about "proper citation." You don't even know how to use commas.
to this effect. A Sniper ( talk) 04:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Death was certainly a death metal band. lulz, you're new at this aren't ya? Chuck didn't take the credit. By your logic the only death metal band is Possessed then. XXMurderSoulXx ( talk) 10:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
"Schuldiner was the only member to remain in the band from start to end (although even he was not ever-present)." This statement is self-contradictory. If he was not ever-present, then he was not the only member to remain in the band from start to end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need any approbation from you.
If it's necessary to say that the interview is an ezine or fanzine or Metal-Rules.com interview, then it is also proper to note in the text that the "pioneering" remark in the first sentence of the article comes from MTV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Response to A Sniper edit from 15:33, 28 October 2008: emptywords.org/, Metal Rules, aom.dead-inside.org(altars of metal) are not reliable - they fail under WP:SPS. These sources are useless for wikipedia. I don't know about thehighhat.com (I did't check it properly). One pretty bold statement is sourced by a reference called "ibid" - what should this stay for? I am not deleting the unreliable sources only because I don't want to be a pain in the ass here.-- LYKANTROP ✉ 16:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/arts/music/15rubi.html What about these guys? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.96.83 ( talk) 05:09, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm bringing this uh, "debate" to the talk page. Read Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive133#Associated Content.2C gettin.27 paid to spam and Talk:Associated Content#Spam filter. Associated Content fails WP:RS and WP:SPS. Dom Coccaro does not appear to be "an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". The genre already includes three citations, so this really shouldn't be an issue. APK straight up now tell me 19:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
User:A Sniper and I have been have a disagreement over the use of certain sources on this page to support statements that Death are a tech death band. The problem is that neither of the first two sources explicitly state that this band is a tech death band within the body of the articals. The third, BNR metal, is a clearly unreliable resources, run by one man, as can be seen hear [1]. The first of the three sources, from empty words, does have the term in its title, but the reliability of said website is qurstionable at best. 75.159.22.63 ( talk) 20:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Just beacause you view it as a reliable, dosn't make it so. See that works both ways. And its not my opinion, if you check both articles, it is clear that neither states that Death is a technical death band in thier body's. Unless you can come up with a statement from either one that clearly says "Death is a tech death band" neither can be used to prove said statement. If you can find a reliable , third party source, that clearly states the statement you are trying to support, I would have no problem with you adding it. But you can't so its a moot point. I suggest you check you jog your memory at WP:R. As for the issue of each sites reliablity, BNR Metal is fan run site which anyone who has every read the guidline should know has no place on Wikipedia. As for empty words, it is neither an third party or impartial source, so its use on wikipedia is questionable at best. 75.159.22.63 ( talk) 06:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
There is a move afoot right now to delete the pages of the Possessed and Death demos. Please take the time to add some references as to their notability. Many thanks. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 05:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
A significant contributer to this article, User:A Sniper, claims a close connection to the band: "I am the copyright owner of this demo & cover, as successor-in-interest to Charles M. Schuldiner and grant use)". [2] Over the next few weeks, I'll be going through this article to try to clean up any problems, firmly establish neutrality and reference as much as possible. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, if anyone is wondering why I removed the Live in Japan release from the discography, it is because the release is canceled < http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=148406>. 69.110.78.11 ( talk) 19:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I added the reason why Chuck named the band Death and added a citation. 69.110.78.11 ( talk) 06:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I noticed some fighting in the lead about Death's genre and decided to add this discussion here if anyone wants to talk about it. As far as I'm concerned Death, while definitely influential to metal music as a whole. played in the style of death metal, and hundreds of sources could be easily found to support that. Even if Schuldiner described them as something else, that doesn't really matter. Plenty of musicians say they play all kinds of different things, including made up genres. Lemmy from Motorhead says they play "rock 'n' roll" and refuses any other labels. Doesn't change what they actually play, which in this case is death metal. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 01:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Per this
Cptnono ( talk) 02:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Just a reminder:
Cptnono ( talk) 20:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we add this DVD in the "Video albums" section? It was filmed in 2007 in Quebec City and released as a DVD in 2010. Feature many official Death musicians (except of course, Chuck). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunge ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Marrow of the earth - Opeth Heritage - Opeth
Jazz fusion
Death=death metal and tech-death. They sound nothing soothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Should the new Mantas compilation be added to the compilation albums section? It is coming out in June. http://www.relapse.com/mantas-preorder 69.225.82.64 ( talk) 20:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
This post on Facebook mentions 1982 as the year Mantas was founded. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151590396423662&set=pb.396088683661.-2207520000.1363847387&type=3&theater Should the info in the article be changed? David O. Johnson ( talk) 06:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
What year was Death dissolved? This section [3] has it at about 2001,though the last time the band actually released new material was in 1998, according to [4]. Should live albums count as the band being active or should 1999 be the ending date for the final line-up in the musicians section? Thanks David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Chuck did mention in an interview that he had riffs for another Death album. "A: Provided Control Denied does as well, and you still feel Death is holding you back will you ever lay Death to rest? No pun intended... A: (laughs) It could possibly happen sure. I've got material written for Death beyond this album, you know, riffs and stuff on tape. So, who knows. There could definitely be another Death album somewhere in the future." [5] Since I've heard the 4 leaked Control Denied songs before, I really wonder what those Death songs sound like. David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Recommend merging Scott Clendenin article with Death (metal band). Quis separabit? 13:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Merger completed. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 21:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Just because some journalist said that they went "melodic death metal" on their latest records without going into detail about said statement doesn't qualify it as a "reliable source" to apply Death such genre tag, ask any fan or just another journalist and they'll tell you Death went into a more progressive style. To whoever is making the undo, read my justification before undoing whatever I corrected and try forming a counterargument, it makes you look like an ignorant. Death has never been considered a melodic death metal band nor has it properties akin to said genre. Just because it might have influenced certain melodic death metal bands it doesn't mean they were. However, since Human, Death showed a tendency into applying actual progressive elements, all this culminating with The Sound of Perseverance. Listen to any well-known melodeath band and tell me if there's any similarities between At the Gates/Edge of Sanity/In Flames/Arch Enemy and Death. -- 2800:2121:2000:EDB:3989:C269:1E17:882B ( talk) 02:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Vague disagreement on this. I personally don’t think this should be in the infobox, so let’s discuss. ~SML TP 00:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Well if that’s the case, then I suggest you try to protecte it somehow. ~SML TP 14:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
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I notice if you do a search for "spiritual healing" you're redirected to "Faith Healing". However, "Spiritual Healing" gets you to the album page. Would it make sense to rename the page as "Spiritual Healing (album)" or somehow alter the redirect page to a disambiguation one? These comments also added to the album discussion page. IainP (talk) 23:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Citation or some proof of true existence needed. Otherwise, article should be deleted for irrelevance and no proof of existence. -- Ryouga 01:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I'll wait for a little while and see if anyone knows something (they can post here or on my talk). If we get nothing, we'll dismiss it as non existent garbage, and then delete it. -- Ryouga 20:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I have never heard of such an EP released by Death. I have recently done some research and have even gone to the releases section of the Empty Words website: Releases. I have searched the list of releases and have found no proof of the Death EP. Therefore, I believe it is safe to say that this EP is non-existent, and must be removed. -- Insineratehymn
I found it interesting that, out of the blue, someone from the "Bay Area" (according to their IP address) edited the Death (band) page to re-write history re: John Hand. Suddenly Hand's contribution went from merely appearing in the Scream Bloody Gore album photos to 'co-writing 20 songs with Chuck and Chris'.
This flies in the face of every, single band biography available on the net. Every fan (or student of death metal) knows that John Hand did not record or play a single gig with Death. This is not meant as a slam against Hand, but simply the correct telling of history. Chuck often said that Hand got a 'great deal' out of his association with Death: namely, from being in the band 'two weeks' his face and name are forever associated with one of the pioneer death metal releases. The fact remains that Chuck played all guitar parts on that first Death album, and hence received the royalties and payments in perpetuity for that release.
I certainly wonder who it was from the San Francisco area that thought it quaint to sneak in and change what really happened after all these years...I'm not insinuating that it was John Hand himself, but if it was he could have the decency to come forth (finally) to dispute head-on what is accepted as the story of the band instead of (possibly) taking this back door approach...It would mean Hand challenging for the first time Chuck's contract with Combat in hopes of battling out royalties due - and that is a ridiculous notion because Hand was never due a single penny.
I don't know if this matters anymore because I have no clue when this was posted, but I went back and did some research about the "John Hand" situation. And discovered that Hand only contributed to the Scream Bloody Gore album photos. So the user above was right. I believe though that they should sight some resources so that if there is any question to whether the article is relevant or not, other people will be able to check and see for themselves.
Catherine Slaughter
XxNo.One.RunsxX
14:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Isn't this where Death started being technical?
No. It started with Human. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.155.191 ( talk) 07:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Why yes it was Chuck had started to head in that direction, he actually said more than once that if he did not the haters would start to tear at Scream and the fact that alot of the riffs were easy to play
on the john hand matter, i wish eirc would stop thinking john wants money for his involvement with scream, nope the mems are good enough so stop trying to diminish what he did do
Did Chuck use additional effects to change his voice on that Judas Priest cover song ? I Mean, some parts aren't "growled", so you can hear harmonics in the voice at some moments, but did he use computer effects of something like that to sound more acute, or could he really sing like that ?
Actually, originally he wanted Ronnie James Dio, he never wanted to do vocals for Control Denied.
Death (band) - History
"22:25, 23 April 2007 Sn0wflake (Talk | contribs) m (16,376 bytes) (Let's settle for not using such arbitrary definitions. Death's style is quite complex, and has mostly used elements from both genres throughout their career.)"
---> Using "Progressive Metal" definition for this band is arbitrary aswell, that's the denomination you'll get after listening a couple(or more) prog-metal bands, not before that, and without that, you wouldn't even think to relate DEATH in any way with the term "progressive"; DEATH doesn't have a single one, clear prog rock influence (as a progrocker I can't find any in their music, and the album that is called the most "proggie" from them is very far from "prog" music). Most of prog-metal bands have a clear or very recognizable prog rock influence on their music, still, some prog-heads don't accept those bands that much as truly progressive, but that's most of times a fact of narrow-mind. Complex, melodic, doesn't make one band progressive, the term "technical" will fit better than "progressive" in many metal bands like this, and will clear the doubt for new people in the prog genre, and of course this will help to improve wikipedia, taking out the fan's or non-neutral oppinion from the articles of this online encyclopedia, thanks. – Progrocker7 02:10, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
While I dont think Death were ever death metal and progressive at the same time, i disagree with them being called "progressive death metal" (see the talk page for chuck schuldiner). Death's early works were also very thrashy ( deathrash), but theyre definitely death. However, when Chuck took the band in the progressive direction, they became less death metal (and they were never as heavy as the death metal bands coming out at that time). Prog metal isn't supposed to sound like prog rock...metal isn't supposed to sound like rock. Keep that in mind. Two different genres. As you're a "progrocker" yourself, I understand youre perhaps not going to understand. Deaths music wasnt nearly as technical as techdeath bands, but it definitely was progressive. See: talk page for chuck. Isilioth 02:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Hehe, thanks for answering, but I'm sorry, I don't need to read those, because I know all of that very much and of course have a well-formed discernment about music, indeed, I do respect Death's music and some metal music, and of course prog-metal bands who are really progressive basing their sound in metal obviously, but they are influenced by at least 1 or more recognizable prog rock bands, no doubt about that, and being really accurate that's the only way to be truly prog-metal and not just technical metal disguised of "prog", and by they way I never said metal is supposed to sound like rock, metal is metal. And how trustable is for you wikipedia in this kind of things?, I think many of the bands information here were done by fans, not experts in the genre, that's what makes it unbalanced, and to be only non-neutral, nor expert, fan's appreciation, nothing more.
And something else, Death are progressive like..? name at least 1 prog rock band (not metal nor prog-metal bands), it seems you won't be able to cite any because they haven't any prog root, since that's the only way to be accepted by the neutral point of view and the experience, of an expert of prog music as a real prog-metal band, I think that's the only trustable way or source in matters of prog.
Then "x" band is starting to be considered as progressive by FANS, not experts in prog, only fans of this "x" band, could you really trust them?, and if this band doesn't have any clear prog rock root, why to consider them progressive?, you see there's no single reason to do that; and why not just simply stay out of "prog" denomination and all this term involves? why to not just say it's complex metal instead?, thanks. – Progrocker7 19:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
— I may not be the authority on prog in this site, yes, but I just cited how the term progressive metal really appeared and was accepted by the prog community -for your knowledge-, prog-heads are way more reliable than any internet source if you have noticed it this far (I really hope you'd). Repeating unreliable and not expert sources (you said MTV was a good source), is as bad as posting your own unbalanced oppinion, Wikidan829, and why do you say I'm not an expert in prog?? how could you possibly say that if you don't really know me??... Trust me, when it comes to prog I know what I'm talking about. – Progrocker7 02:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Death is Technical Death Metal. When they got progressive, they still had the Death Metal styling, making them progressive death metal, or technical death metal. They were never just progressive, so progressive metal does not apply to them. MTV is not a reliable source. They try to redefine things. MTV would consider deathcore bands death metal, and many other mistakes. XXMurderSoulXx ( talk) 19:21, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
I think melodic death metal should be added. They're later stuff (sound perseverance for example) is definitely melodeath. he uses a higher pithched vocal style, melodic riffs et c. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.155.191 ( talk) 13:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the line commenting that The Philosopher was written as a "lyrical slam" as someone put it against Paul Masvidal because of an ambigious reference which is basically..
"Interestingly, the lyrics on ITP were quite angry, in contrast to the gore-oriented earlier albums and more spiritual later ones. The lyrics arose from Schuldiner's frustrations with the music industry, including lack of label promotion and legal altercations with Death manager Eric Greif (who produced Morbid Saint's Spectrum of Death) and various former bandmates."
If you can find a better reference add it back in but otherwise leave it.
No lyrics written by Death would ever be a driect slam of someone they might have had more meaning to Chuck like that but they were directed at a large group becuase that is how his music was written. Songs such as "The Philosopher" are talking about people who think they are smart and know everything but in realality know nothing about what they are talking about that is true. However lyrics can be interpeted in many ways so do not put anything on the page about lyrical meanings. For further proof of how lyrics can be interpeted differently look up the PMRC and how they didn't understand the song "Under the Knife" by Twisted Sister.
Metalocalypse 13:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)Metalocalypse
Metalocalypse
13:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Please see the posting below. I agree with you in a general sense Metalocalypse, but Chuck admitted in interviews, etc. at the time that ITP contained personal slams on at least two folks - his former manager (half the album) and Masvidal (The Philosopher), who has always been into eastern philosophy and is openly gay but during the Human tour had not 'come out yet' (and neither had Reinert, who is also openly gay and came out during the late 90s). This needs to be encyclopedic, which isn't necessarily flattering about those we edit about. However, Chuck did state in interviews for Symbolic that his experience writing for ITP was important to him personally since it got out a lot of frustration. This isn't about censorship but about writing what we find to be accurate. Best, A Sniper 10:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
"but Chuck admitted in interviews" - again A Sniper, if Chuck admitted in interviews why is it that all you can produce is a comment from someone claiming to be Eric Grief? And I would assume you also have some evidence for claiming both Paul and Sean are gay? If you don't I'd suggest removing your comments. Wikipedia is increasingly growing in credibility with the information it provides and hence what we write should not be based on second hand information or rumors. I quote from directly below this box, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable."
Final Thoughts (
talk)
01:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the reference to a better one and added back the Masvidal mention. Sorry but historical revisionism has no place at Wikipedia. Anyone in the know about Schuldiner & Death are aware that 'The Philosopher' is about Masvidal. Ex-manager Greif mentions it at the usually-accurate Blabbermouth (run by former Schuldiner fan/friend Borivoj Krgin):
"Chuck told me himself on the phone (in 1993), at a time when we were in the midst of a lawsuit over business stuff, that he had written The Philosopher about Paul and "half" his new album (I.T.P.) about me. I'm not proud of this, but it is a fact nevertheless. There is a lot of anger on that record, lyrically, but that represented the way things were back then. Chuck himself, in an interview I saw on YouTube (re: the release of Symbolic), said that he got out a lot of anger writing those I.T.P. lyrics, so it did serve a purpose. ERIC"
This should end the debate. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to ITP album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to Live in LA album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to Live in Eindhoven album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
Explanation for Fair Use Rationale added to The Sound of Perseverance album cover page. Warning removed. A Sniper
I, as former Manager of Death at the time Chuck drew his more streamlined band logo (prior to the release of Human), have given a fair use rationale for use of it, including the fact that we allowed anyone and everyone to duplicate it (as long as it was not involved in commercial gain), and I hereby remove the warning. Griffyguy
If anyone needs a reference for Kam Lee designing the original logo, it can be found here: http://www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/interviews/kamlee.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Durandal1717 ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you could come to this page before making your sweeping edits and rather non-good faith statements against the regular editors who do our best to keep this page accurate and NPOV. Best, A Sniper 15:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
All FUR templates finished for remaining Death covers that were under threat. I thereby blanked all the warnings. A Sniper 17:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
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I made a search for the word mantas and I was directed here. If it is a previous band, than why does it direct here? Anyway, mantas are a item woven by native tribesmen in the amazon and I wanted to see what the wikipedia article on them said. Oh well. Contralya ( talk) 03:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I regret that the above user appears to be trolling articles I've contributed to and making blanking attempts, deletions, and whatever else. This appears to be based on malicious intent (for want of any other explanation) and not on verifiability, good faith or interest in the article topics. Sooner or later this user will work his/her way from the Chuck Schuldiner article over to this page. Cheers, A Sniper ( talk) 21:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
should not be included in genres as it is a redirect of Technical death metal which is also a listed genre.
Agreed, but I have addded Progressive metal to the genres as this side of the band needs to be adressed. And sign your comments. Johan Rachmaninov ( talk) 22:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
To
User:A Sniper:
Hi. Almost the whole article is totally unsourced and is almost completely
unverifiable. Do not understand it as an offence, but that is just a fact and the readers should be informed about it. There are some sources in the infobox, in the
lead section and also in the "Memebers" section, but the Biography - the main body of the article is just simply unsourced except for one single sentence. See for example
Slayer or
Metallica to have a picture about how a sourced article looks like. Almost every sentence should have an
inline citation.
On the other hand, I did not read the sources. If the sources cover the text in the article, just add the inline citations to the text (just like in
Slayer or
Metallica)! And the problem will be fixed! But if there are no inline citations, the reader does not know what is sourced and what not. So if there are sources, just use them as inline citations:
Use this once for each source:
<ref name="NAME (for example BlahBlah1)">{{cite web
| url = http://???
| publisher =
| title =
| author =
| accessdate = YYYY-MM-DD
}}</ref>
And then use the source again with:
<ref name="NAME (for example BlahBlah1)" />
Cheers :) --
LYKANTROP
20:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion there doesn't need to be too much information on the two roadies that went on the tour of Europe with bassist Terry Butler and drummer Bill Andrews. Mentioning their names is by far enough weight to the story - anything else is undue. Butler and Andrews had no legal authority to undertake the tour (as Schuldiner was the proprietor of 'Death', as mentioned in almost every biography) and they were sacked from the band upon their return home. Therefore, biographical or incidental information on the two roadies is irrelevant. They literally did the tour as 'players' at the last minute, and due exclusively to their proximity to Butler and Andrews due to being band roadies. By the way: these two folks once had their own articles, but these were deleted due to a lack of notoriety. That they were once members of a defunct band is trivia and unconnected. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 00:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
fascist. Skulduggery88 ( talk) 16:42, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
too bad. 86.128.164.43 ( talk) 19:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
An online fanzine had an interview with Chuck in which, true to Chuck's nature, he stated that he didn't feel that he should take the credit for the term 'death metal'. This was Chuck being humble and modest. the user has tried to use the reference to show that, actually, the band Death were NOT death metal. The edits have been reverted. I have used the adverb 'modestly' as any reader can gather this from the reference itself - that Chuck was not wanting to lay claim to a title that has been internationally bestowed on him and one that made him feel uncomfortable yet proud. Thoughts? Best, A Sniper ( talk) 20:43, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
If "any reader can gather this from the reference itself," your adverb need not be added. Also, how do you know how Schuldiner felt? Do you have a quote from him saying that he felt "uncomfortable yet proud"? No? Then back off. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
"use of such terms as back off are unacceptable." Stay cool, man! Also, I love how the only part of my comment you address is my injunction to you. That's wonderful.
"if you have a problem with an edit, then " I do, but then you instantly revert them, don't you?
Please don't talk to me about "proper citation." You don't even know how to use commas.
to this effect. A Sniper ( talk) 04:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Death was certainly a death metal band. lulz, you're new at this aren't ya? Chuck didn't take the credit. By your logic the only death metal band is Possessed then. XXMurderSoulXx ( talk) 10:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
"Schuldiner was the only member to remain in the band from start to end (although even he was not ever-present)." This statement is self-contradictory. If he was not ever-present, then he was not the only member to remain in the band from start to end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, but no thanks. I don't need any approbation from you.
If it's necessary to say that the interview is an ezine or fanzine or Metal-Rules.com interview, then it is also proper to note in the text that the "pioneering" remark in the first sentence of the article comes from MTV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.5.88 ( talk) 03:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Response to A Sniper edit from 15:33, 28 October 2008: emptywords.org/, Metal Rules, aom.dead-inside.org(altars of metal) are not reliable - they fail under WP:SPS. These sources are useless for wikipedia. I don't know about thehighhat.com (I did't check it properly). One pretty bold statement is sourced by a reference called "ibid" - what should this stay for? I am not deleting the unreliable sources only because I don't want to be a pain in the ass here.-- LYKANTROP ✉ 16:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/arts/music/15rubi.html What about these guys? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.96.83 ( talk) 05:09, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm bringing this uh, "debate" to the talk page. Read Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive133#Associated Content.2C gettin.27 paid to spam and Talk:Associated Content#Spam filter. Associated Content fails WP:RS and WP:SPS. Dom Coccaro does not appear to be "an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". The genre already includes three citations, so this really shouldn't be an issue. APK straight up now tell me 19:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
User:A Sniper and I have been have a disagreement over the use of certain sources on this page to support statements that Death are a tech death band. The problem is that neither of the first two sources explicitly state that this band is a tech death band within the body of the articals. The third, BNR metal, is a clearly unreliable resources, run by one man, as can be seen hear [1]. The first of the three sources, from empty words, does have the term in its title, but the reliability of said website is qurstionable at best. 75.159.22.63 ( talk) 20:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Just beacause you view it as a reliable, dosn't make it so. See that works both ways. And its not my opinion, if you check both articles, it is clear that neither states that Death is a technical death band in thier body's. Unless you can come up with a statement from either one that clearly says "Death is a tech death band" neither can be used to prove said statement. If you can find a reliable , third party source, that clearly states the statement you are trying to support, I would have no problem with you adding it. But you can't so its a moot point. I suggest you check you jog your memory at WP:R. As for the issue of each sites reliablity, BNR Metal is fan run site which anyone who has every read the guidline should know has no place on Wikipedia. As for empty words, it is neither an third party or impartial source, so its use on wikipedia is questionable at best. 75.159.22.63 ( talk) 06:59, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
There is a move afoot right now to delete the pages of the Possessed and Death demos. Please take the time to add some references as to their notability. Many thanks. Best, A Sniper ( talk) 05:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
A significant contributer to this article, User:A Sniper, claims a close connection to the band: "I am the copyright owner of this demo & cover, as successor-in-interest to Charles M. Schuldiner and grant use)". [2] Over the next few weeks, I'll be going through this article to try to clean up any problems, firmly establish neutrality and reference as much as possible. - SummerPhD ( talk) 13:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, if anyone is wondering why I removed the Live in Japan release from the discography, it is because the release is canceled < http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=148406>. 69.110.78.11 ( talk) 19:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I added the reason why Chuck named the band Death and added a citation. 69.110.78.11 ( talk) 06:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
I noticed some fighting in the lead about Death's genre and decided to add this discussion here if anyone wants to talk about it. As far as I'm concerned Death, while definitely influential to metal music as a whole. played in the style of death metal, and hundreds of sources could be easily found to support that. Even if Schuldiner described them as something else, that doesn't really matter. Plenty of musicians say they play all kinds of different things, including made up genres. Lemmy from Motorhead says they play "rock 'n' roll" and refuses any other labels. Doesn't change what they actually play, which in this case is death metal. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 01:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Per this
Cptnono ( talk) 02:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Just a reminder:
Cptnono ( talk) 20:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Should we add this DVD in the "Video albums" section? It was filmed in 2007 in Quebec City and released as a DVD in 2010. Feature many official Death musicians (except of course, Chuck). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunge ( talk • contribs) 22:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Marrow of the earth - Opeth Heritage - Opeth
Jazz fusion
Death=death metal and tech-death. They sound nothing soothing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMetallican ( talk • contribs) 23:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Should the new Mantas compilation be added to the compilation albums section? It is coming out in June. http://www.relapse.com/mantas-preorder 69.225.82.64 ( talk) 20:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
This post on Facebook mentions 1982 as the year Mantas was founded. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151590396423662&set=pb.396088683661.-2207520000.1363847387&type=3&theater Should the info in the article be changed? David O. Johnson ( talk) 06:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
What year was Death dissolved? This section [3] has it at about 2001,though the last time the band actually released new material was in 1998, according to [4]. Should live albums count as the band being active or should 1999 be the ending date for the final line-up in the musicians section? Thanks David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Chuck did mention in an interview that he had riffs for another Death album. "A: Provided Control Denied does as well, and you still feel Death is holding you back will you ever lay Death to rest? No pun intended... A: (laughs) It could possibly happen sure. I've got material written for Death beyond this album, you know, riffs and stuff on tape. So, who knows. There could definitely be another Death album somewhere in the future." [5] Since I've heard the 4 leaked Control Denied songs before, I really wonder what those Death songs sound like. David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Recommend merging Scott Clendenin article with Death (metal band). Quis separabit? 13:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Merger completed. Mmyers1976 ( talk) 21:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Just because some journalist said that they went "melodic death metal" on their latest records without going into detail about said statement doesn't qualify it as a "reliable source" to apply Death such genre tag, ask any fan or just another journalist and they'll tell you Death went into a more progressive style. To whoever is making the undo, read my justification before undoing whatever I corrected and try forming a counterargument, it makes you look like an ignorant. Death has never been considered a melodic death metal band nor has it properties akin to said genre. Just because it might have influenced certain melodic death metal bands it doesn't mean they were. However, since Human, Death showed a tendency into applying actual progressive elements, all this culminating with The Sound of Perseverance. Listen to any well-known melodeath band and tell me if there's any similarities between At the Gates/Edge of Sanity/In Flames/Arch Enemy and Death. -- 2800:2121:2000:EDB:3989:C269:1E17:882B ( talk) 02:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Vague disagreement on this. I personally don’t think this should be in the infobox, so let’s discuss. ~SML TP 00:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Well if that’s the case, then I suggest you try to protecte it somehow. ~SML TP 14:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)