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Should there be a little bit more explanation on what dry humor consists of?
I'd say Droopy the Dog deserves to be on this list
What about Christopher Walken?
What about Paul Merton, from 'Have I Got News For You'? Very deadpan. Saccerzd 16:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Small query regarding the line "It should also be noted that dead-pan humour is widespread throughout Australia as a basic form of comedy."
Being Australian, I cannot really confirm this as being accurate. Dead-pan humour is simply another form of humour that may or may not be used; I doubt it's overly popular in Australia any more than any other form of humour.
I'd argue (being from Melbourne, but having been born into a a family a generation older than my peers (my sisters were born shortly after ww2, me in 72) that it's _very_ common to see dry or hear dry humour. I am curious if perhaps it's possible that it's on the decline, so it's less common amongst younger demographics. I'd perhaps note the popularity of books (both fiction and non fiction) by Chopper Read, and even the pseudo biography "Chopper" by Andrew Dominik. Quite a bit of deadpan humour in that one, and a very popular, and seemingly very accessible film for/with Australians, suggesting that it's a familiar sort of humour. I'd perhaps even put forward a website called "performance forums" (performanceforums.com) which is heavily Australian based. Hell of a lot of deadpan jokes in there, that new subscribers will be exposed to if it's clear they aren't there to contribute.
Do you really think ALL of the names on this list should be there? I mean Melissa Joan Hart?? Raven Symone?? The Friends cast? Looks like criteria for being considered a "deadpan" comedian is to simply be ABLE to make a joke with a serious expression. By this reason, anyone who has ever acted in a comedic role could be considered a deadpan actor. I'M a deadpan comedian, apparently.
This article should contain a list of actors/actresses who are PRIMARILY KNOWN for their deadpan delivery....people like Stephen Colbert, Peter Sellers, Steve Wright, Ben Stein, etc. belong on this list. David Schwimmer, Melissa Joan Hart, David Duchovny (it's deadpan COMEDIC delivery) and Patrick Stewart do not. -- Crabbyass 16:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Me too, I've added in Elliot Goblet, as he's practically like Steven Wright on valium in his delivery (one wonders if he was in fact inspired by Wright, though I would note their material whilst similar in style has no overlaps in subject matter that I'm aware of, and have seen both live, as well as some tv stuff.
I'm deleting more useless entries that have been added, lest this list becomes 6 pages long. I think we should vote on who stays and who goes, in the television section. It's getting long. My vote goes for Geoffrey from Fresh Prince, and Rick Mercer - even though they're great examples, I don't think they're well-known enough. -- Crabbyass 13:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Really, some anonymous website users cannot be counted as 'notable comedians' by any sensible standards. Not even 22-year old hot college girls. -- Graniitti 02:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Does Mitch Hedberg really count as a deadpan comedian? As much as I love the guy, I don't think his style of delivery really qualifies as deadpanning. Listening to his CDs or watching his special, you can hear/see many times where he's trying to conceal his laughter or amusement, or sometimes even laughing mid-joke. Djseifer 08:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
How about adding him to the list? I got to know what dry humor was when the presentator of BB told him that people in Britian appreciated his dry humor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.0.248.23 ( talk) 15:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC).
The discussion 'Australia' prompted me to think that deadpan humour isn't the same thing as dry humour. Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee etc.) certainly delivered his jokes with a serious face but his humour was qualitatively different in style to American humour in the entry examples. It seems to me an element of mockery or subversiveness is present in Hogan's humour that some of these others lack. Of course Python had that subversiveness but unlike Hogan their situations were invariably silly, whereas Hogan's were always grounded in some way in reality. Perhaps this is another specific attribute of dry rather than deadpan humour. All in all maybe there is a case for a separate entry for dry humour. -- Hologram1 02:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Should Norm MacDonald be added to the list? Apparently, his comedic work on Saturday Night Live was in a deadpan style and is what he's best known for although I'm not familiar enough with his work to say whether it is typical of his style of comedy in general. Theshibboleth 02:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I added GLaDOS from Portal. If anyone here has played that game you know why I did. Yagikaru 21:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
"Please note, we have added a consequence for failure. Any contact with the chamber floor will result in an unsatisfactory mark on your official testing record, followed by death. Good luck." -GLaDOS
Is there a reason why some English Comedians are labelled as British whilst others are labelled English? All the Comedians Labelled as British are English. I have Rectified this. ( Morcus ( talk) 01:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC))
If there's an article on specific types of dry humor, then where in the world is the article on dry humor itself? Whenever I search dry humor I get redirected to deadpan. ~~Anonymous~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.10.3 ( talk) 02:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
What about TOM GREEN? He is always serious when he is making fun of other people. I think he could be added.
AllMovie.com claims that this is the most deadpan comedy ever to be set to film. Perhaps it is worth adding to the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.69.242 ( talk) 22:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Of Late Late Show fame. He often delivers jokes with a serious expression, only breaking from an expressionless face after the audience starts to laugh. So does fit the description of deadpan or not? Zell65 ( talk) 22:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
In what way is he deadpan? He smiles all the time. One Episode even started with him laughing uncontrollably. TBone777 ( talk) 02:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Are we explaining what the term deadpan means, or are we trying to make a comprehensive list of all comedians who wish to be known as having delivered deadpan at some time. Gwrede ( talk) 02:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Gwrede
Maybe it would be better if the entire " Notable deadpan comedians" section was split off into it's own separate list article. -- œ ™ 22:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Should Rich Hall be added to the list? Memassivbeast 19:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Great idea - I think of him as the American equivalent of Jack Dee! ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 22:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The following section was removed for being original research. I've copied it here to use as a reference. -- œ ™ 04:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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This is by far the worst wikipedia page I have ever seen. The examples should not be there. They are poorly organized and serve no purpose. 75.165.224.75 ( talk) 17:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
They use facial expressions constantly to communicate nonverbally. Deadpan is more like Leslie Nielsen or Stephen Wright delivering a funny line without changing expression. On Seinfeld, they're moving their eyebrows, their facial muscles, delivering jokes with barely suppressed smiles all the time. 76.121.56.99 ( talk) 07:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I have at least 46 relatives who have been known to use deadpan delivery. Can I add them to the list? 112.118.136.158 ( talk) 09:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Using an emoji to demonstrate a form of comedy makes no sense. I would consider it more fitting on an article about an emotional state (though still odd), but here it's not even tied to the subject. It's just a neutral/unamused face. Prinsgezinde ( talk) 19:52, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Should there be a little bit more explanation on what dry humor consists of?
I'd say Droopy the Dog deserves to be on this list
What about Christopher Walken?
What about Paul Merton, from 'Have I Got News For You'? Very deadpan. Saccerzd 16:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Small query regarding the line "It should also be noted that dead-pan humour is widespread throughout Australia as a basic form of comedy."
Being Australian, I cannot really confirm this as being accurate. Dead-pan humour is simply another form of humour that may or may not be used; I doubt it's overly popular in Australia any more than any other form of humour.
I'd argue (being from Melbourne, but having been born into a a family a generation older than my peers (my sisters were born shortly after ww2, me in 72) that it's _very_ common to see dry or hear dry humour. I am curious if perhaps it's possible that it's on the decline, so it's less common amongst younger demographics. I'd perhaps note the popularity of books (both fiction and non fiction) by Chopper Read, and even the pseudo biography "Chopper" by Andrew Dominik. Quite a bit of deadpan humour in that one, and a very popular, and seemingly very accessible film for/with Australians, suggesting that it's a familiar sort of humour. I'd perhaps even put forward a website called "performance forums" (performanceforums.com) which is heavily Australian based. Hell of a lot of deadpan jokes in there, that new subscribers will be exposed to if it's clear they aren't there to contribute.
Do you really think ALL of the names on this list should be there? I mean Melissa Joan Hart?? Raven Symone?? The Friends cast? Looks like criteria for being considered a "deadpan" comedian is to simply be ABLE to make a joke with a serious expression. By this reason, anyone who has ever acted in a comedic role could be considered a deadpan actor. I'M a deadpan comedian, apparently.
This article should contain a list of actors/actresses who are PRIMARILY KNOWN for their deadpan delivery....people like Stephen Colbert, Peter Sellers, Steve Wright, Ben Stein, etc. belong on this list. David Schwimmer, Melissa Joan Hart, David Duchovny (it's deadpan COMEDIC delivery) and Patrick Stewart do not. -- Crabbyass 16:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Me too, I've added in Elliot Goblet, as he's practically like Steven Wright on valium in his delivery (one wonders if he was in fact inspired by Wright, though I would note their material whilst similar in style has no overlaps in subject matter that I'm aware of, and have seen both live, as well as some tv stuff.
I'm deleting more useless entries that have been added, lest this list becomes 6 pages long. I think we should vote on who stays and who goes, in the television section. It's getting long. My vote goes for Geoffrey from Fresh Prince, and Rick Mercer - even though they're great examples, I don't think they're well-known enough. -- Crabbyass 13:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Really, some anonymous website users cannot be counted as 'notable comedians' by any sensible standards. Not even 22-year old hot college girls. -- Graniitti 02:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Does Mitch Hedberg really count as a deadpan comedian? As much as I love the guy, I don't think his style of delivery really qualifies as deadpanning. Listening to his CDs or watching his special, you can hear/see many times where he's trying to conceal his laughter or amusement, or sometimes even laughing mid-joke. Djseifer 08:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
How about adding him to the list? I got to know what dry humor was when the presentator of BB told him that people in Britian appreciated his dry humor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.0.248.23 ( talk) 15:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC).
The discussion 'Australia' prompted me to think that deadpan humour isn't the same thing as dry humour. Paul Hogan (Crocodile Dundee etc.) certainly delivered his jokes with a serious face but his humour was qualitatively different in style to American humour in the entry examples. It seems to me an element of mockery or subversiveness is present in Hogan's humour that some of these others lack. Of course Python had that subversiveness but unlike Hogan their situations were invariably silly, whereas Hogan's were always grounded in some way in reality. Perhaps this is another specific attribute of dry rather than deadpan humour. All in all maybe there is a case for a separate entry for dry humour. -- Hologram1 02:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Should Norm MacDonald be added to the list? Apparently, his comedic work on Saturday Night Live was in a deadpan style and is what he's best known for although I'm not familiar enough with his work to say whether it is typical of his style of comedy in general. Theshibboleth 02:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I added GLaDOS from Portal. If anyone here has played that game you know why I did. Yagikaru 21:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
"Please note, we have added a consequence for failure. Any contact with the chamber floor will result in an unsatisfactory mark on your official testing record, followed by death. Good luck." -GLaDOS
Is there a reason why some English Comedians are labelled as British whilst others are labelled English? All the Comedians Labelled as British are English. I have Rectified this. ( Morcus ( talk) 01:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC))
If there's an article on specific types of dry humor, then where in the world is the article on dry humor itself? Whenever I search dry humor I get redirected to deadpan. ~~Anonymous~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.10.3 ( talk) 02:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
What about TOM GREEN? He is always serious when he is making fun of other people. I think he could be added.
AllMovie.com claims that this is the most deadpan comedy ever to be set to film. Perhaps it is worth adding to the list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.69.242 ( talk) 22:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Of Late Late Show fame. He often delivers jokes with a serious expression, only breaking from an expressionless face after the audience starts to laugh. So does fit the description of deadpan or not? Zell65 ( talk) 22:39, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
In what way is he deadpan? He smiles all the time. One Episode even started with him laughing uncontrollably. TBone777 ( talk) 02:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Are we explaining what the term deadpan means, or are we trying to make a comprehensive list of all comedians who wish to be known as having delivered deadpan at some time. Gwrede ( talk) 02:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)Gwrede
Maybe it would be better if the entire " Notable deadpan comedians" section was split off into it's own separate list article. -- œ ™ 22:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Should Rich Hall be added to the list? Memassivbeast 19:58, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Great idea - I think of him as the American equivalent of Jack Dee! ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 22:57, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The following section was removed for being original research. I've copied it here to use as a reference. -- œ ™ 04:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Extended content
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Stand-up comedians
Film
Television
Fictional characters
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This is by far the worst wikipedia page I have ever seen. The examples should not be there. They are poorly organized and serve no purpose. 75.165.224.75 ( talk) 17:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
They use facial expressions constantly to communicate nonverbally. Deadpan is more like Leslie Nielsen or Stephen Wright delivering a funny line without changing expression. On Seinfeld, they're moving their eyebrows, their facial muscles, delivering jokes with barely suppressed smiles all the time. 76.121.56.99 ( talk) 07:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I have at least 46 relatives who have been known to use deadpan delivery. Can I add them to the list? 112.118.136.158 ( talk) 09:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Using an emoji to demonstrate a form of comedy makes no sense. I would consider it more fitting on an article about an emotional state (though still odd), but here it's not even tied to the subject. It's just a neutral/unamused face. Prinsgezinde ( talk) 19:52, 8 July 2018 (UTC)