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Band is comprised of notable musicians and is booking a full national tour at this time. Easily passes music guidelines. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Massey Rogers which may be the motivating factor in the nomination. Also significance is claimed with sources so AFD should be the next choice. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
At WP:BAND it says that a band is notable if it "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The article already cites write-ups in Billboard and Rolling Stone. Dead & Company has also been written about by Associated Press, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Pitchfork, Ultimate Guitar, Consequence of Sound, Billboard again... There's more where that came from too. — Mudwater ( Talk) 03:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
User:Mudwater, it wasn't good faith nomination. Wait for the afd. The CSD is a knee jerk reaction. Hopefully they realize what they are doing and the fact that I have offered to help improve the deleted article. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 04:17, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
A listing of tour dates and venue strikes me as advertising and does not add to the article about the band. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 17:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
If it included a link to purchase tickets I would agree with you. But in this case, I don't. A listing of tour dates and locations is of interest to fans. While that information is available elsewhere, so is everything else in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowmeadow ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I have to agree that the tour dates do not belong on the artists main page. My reasoning is because no (or at least none I have seen) other bands have all of the tour dates they have performed on their pages. Having said that, if someone wants to create an article for the tour itself, that is another story. ( talk) 02:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.209.32.185 ( talk)
I have removed the tour dates on the artist's main page but I created a seperate article for the tour itself and moved them there. sk8punk3d288 ( talk) 20:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, this article ( version) has become the only source on the web (apart from mirrors and the like) that explicitly says the band has four members. That's the result of these two edits, which are based on the editor's reading of the band's website, which lists Hart, Kreutzmann, Mayer and Weir first, followed by "with Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Chimenti". While this listing suggests that the latter two may be in a different category than the more famous first four, we have no reason to assume that the only two possible categories are "member" and "non-member". Further, the three sources cited don't support the claim, and the third one explicitly contradicts it, saying DeadCo includes all six. Here are four more sources saying the same: CBS News, Rolling Stone, Al.com, and Livenation (press release, likely originating with the band itself). In light of the above, both edits need to be undone, which I'll do now. Happy editing, Middle 8 ( t • c | privacy • COI) 13:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Dead & Company is:
The article says, "Phil Lesh, the original bassist for the Grateful Dead, was not asked to join." However, the citations for this sentence are Forbes, which only mentions Lesh by referring to Dead & Company as "the Phil Lesh-less band", and JamBase, which refers to performances by Phil Lesh & Friends but says nothing about Dead & Company.
What source is there that says that Lesh was not asked to join Dead & Company, as opposed to the possibility that Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, and Bill Kreutzmann did invite Lesh to join but Lesh chose not to do so? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:03, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm going to add Jay Lane to the list of band members in the infobox. There's been no official announcement of Lane joining the band -- and the band's official website doesn't list the members -- but it's apparent that he will be Bill Kreutzmann's replacement for Dead & Company's remaining concerts. Lane played with the band on May 5th in New Orleans and on May 8th in Ithaca. And he was Bill Kreutzmann's replacement for part or all of several shows in 2021 and 2022. In conclusion, Lane is now a full-time member of the band. If anyone else has any opinions about this, please post them here. — Mudwater ( Talk) 11:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
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Band is comprised of notable musicians and is booking a full national tour at this time. Easily passes music guidelines. Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Massey Rogers which may be the motivating factor in the nomination. Also significance is claimed with sources so AFD should be the next choice. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 02:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
At WP:BAND it says that a band is notable if it "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The article already cites write-ups in Billboard and Rolling Stone. Dead & Company has also been written about by Associated Press, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Pitchfork, Ultimate Guitar, Consequence of Sound, Billboard again... There's more where that came from too. — Mudwater ( Talk) 03:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
User:Mudwater, it wasn't good faith nomination. Wait for the afd. The CSD is a knee jerk reaction. Hopefully they realize what they are doing and the fact that I have offered to help improve the deleted article. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 04:17, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
A listing of tour dates and venue strikes me as advertising and does not add to the article about the band. Hell in a Bucket ( talk) 17:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
If it included a link to purchase tickets I would agree with you. But in this case, I don't. A listing of tour dates and locations is of interest to fans. While that information is available elsewhere, so is everything else in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lowmeadow ( talk • contribs) 19:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I have to agree that the tour dates do not belong on the artists main page. My reasoning is because no (or at least none I have seen) other bands have all of the tour dates they have performed on their pages. Having said that, if someone wants to create an article for the tour itself, that is another story. ( talk) 02:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.209.32.185 ( talk)
I have removed the tour dates on the artist's main page but I created a seperate article for the tour itself and moved them there. sk8punk3d288 ( talk) 20:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, this article ( version) has become the only source on the web (apart from mirrors and the like) that explicitly says the band has four members. That's the result of these two edits, which are based on the editor's reading of the band's website, which lists Hart, Kreutzmann, Mayer and Weir first, followed by "with Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Chimenti". While this listing suggests that the latter two may be in a different category than the more famous first four, we have no reason to assume that the only two possible categories are "member" and "non-member". Further, the three sources cited don't support the claim, and the third one explicitly contradicts it, saying DeadCo includes all six. Here are four more sources saying the same: CBS News, Rolling Stone, Al.com, and Livenation (press release, likely originating with the band itself). In light of the above, both edits need to be undone, which I'll do now. Happy editing, Middle 8 ( t • c | privacy • COI) 13:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Dead & Company is:
The article says, "Phil Lesh, the original bassist for the Grateful Dead, was not asked to join." However, the citations for this sentence are Forbes, which only mentions Lesh by referring to Dead & Company as "the Phil Lesh-less band", and JamBase, which refers to performances by Phil Lesh & Friends but says nothing about Dead & Company.
What source is there that says that Lesh was not asked to join Dead & Company, as opposed to the possibility that Bob Weir, Mickey Hart, and Bill Kreutzmann did invite Lesh to join but Lesh chose not to do so? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:03, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm going to add Jay Lane to the list of band members in the infobox. There's been no official announcement of Lane joining the band -- and the band's official website doesn't list the members -- but it's apparent that he will be Bill Kreutzmann's replacement for Dead & Company's remaining concerts. Lane played with the band on May 5th in New Orleans and on May 8th in Ithaca. And he was Bill Kreutzmann's replacement for part or all of several shows in 2021 and 2022. In conclusion, Lane is now a full-time member of the band. If anyone else has any opinions about this, please post them here. — Mudwater ( Talk) 11:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)