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Is anyone going to support this "thread tradition" of dawn? If not, I move to delete it. -- In Defense of the Artist 04:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm changing this language:
Each clause gives two definitions, which may be considered normally equivalent but not logically equivalent. Either of the two following paraphrases would make more sense:
The first is formal and measurable, the second is subject to judgement, so I'm assuming the first definition is more correct and rewriting the passage accordingly. — Tamfang 05:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing this little bit because it sounds like a line out of a sci-fi or fantasy novel, Dawn is a name given to women so they can protect people from monsters? Outside of the Buffyverse people are given the name Dawn because its pretty, because its symbolizes the love a parent feels for the new life and the changes she or he brings, not because they want vampire or troll killers. Any author who uses the name acts as an idividual and chooses the name for some form of irony or symbolism, as such it has nothing to do with Folklore anymore than Dragonlance's Paladine has to do with actual historic paladins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 03:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know how many of the public are aware that none of the three dawns described here (astronomic dawn, nautical dawn and civil dawn) is the same as sunrise?
In some countries there is also lighting-up time which in England was 30 minutes before sunrise and after sunset.
For an example site, such as London, how would these three dawns & sun-dawn plus the evening equivalents show on a graph?? Salisbury-99 ( talk) 09:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
User AviatorPontus is a variant of the permanently blocked vandal JP eriksson, whos edits we on sv:wp usually reverts on the spot. Plaese check the edits by this user. Yger ( talk) 08:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Shouldnt there be a "Sunrise" on the diagram. Sunset is present, why not sunrise ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa ( talk • contribs) 12:12, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
As the calendar approaches the summer/winter solstices the days/nights get shorter, which can have a potential impact on the time and duration of dawn and dusk. What does "can" and "potential" mean in this sentence? In what cases are the times and durations not affected? -- 88.73.131.201 ( talk) 15:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I just posted this in dusk, it also applies here:
Chiefly, there is little justification for a "technical definition" of civil/nautical/astronomical dusk. I have just checked all three editions of the Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac (1961, 1992, 2010), the Astronomical Almanacs for 1960, 1980, 2010, as well as Meeus' Astronomical Algorithms and Montenbruck's Practical Ephemeris Calculations. Not one of these publications defines a "civil dusk" or "nautical dawn". In fact, none of them ever use the words "dusk" or "dawn". It is always simply "end of civil twilight" or similar. These are definitive references - if it doesn't appear in them, it doesn't exist. Tfr000 ( talk) 19:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no general agreement on a precise definition of "dawn"; it is sometimes even identified with sunrise itself. If, however, it is interpreted as the time of "first light", dawn corresponds to a depression between 18° and 12° but it is not possible to be more precise.
Tfr000 ( talk) 21:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
The file "File:Twilight subcategories.svg" was designed for dusk. If we are going to use it here, then it needs adapting by changing dusk to dawn. However, in view of the above section, perhaps it needs a more drastic change? Dbfirs 22:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Actually, if we must use British English here to make you happy, please change it back. I don't think any of us really care one way or the other on that spelling. Thanks for your help. → Pocketthis ( talk) 19:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Like hearing this dawn 1booandahalf ( talk) 16:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Title of films and series at least since 1996. Should be mentioned? Helium4 ( talk) 11:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
Is anyone going to support this "thread tradition" of dawn? If not, I move to delete it. -- In Defense of the Artist 04:45, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm changing this language:
Each clause gives two definitions, which may be considered normally equivalent but not logically equivalent. Either of the two following paraphrases would make more sense:
The first is formal and measurable, the second is subject to judgement, so I'm assuming the first definition is more correct and rewriting the passage accordingly. — Tamfang 05:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm removing this little bit because it sounds like a line out of a sci-fi or fantasy novel, Dawn is a name given to women so they can protect people from monsters? Outside of the Buffyverse people are given the name Dawn because its pretty, because its symbolizes the love a parent feels for the new life and the changes she or he brings, not because they want vampire or troll killers. Any author who uses the name acts as an idividual and chooses the name for some form of irony or symbolism, as such it has nothing to do with Folklore anymore than Dragonlance's Paladine has to do with actual historic paladins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 ( talk) 03:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
It would be interesting to know how many of the public are aware that none of the three dawns described here (astronomic dawn, nautical dawn and civil dawn) is the same as sunrise?
In some countries there is also lighting-up time which in England was 30 minutes before sunrise and after sunset.
For an example site, such as London, how would these three dawns & sun-dawn plus the evening equivalents show on a graph?? Salisbury-99 ( talk) 09:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
User AviatorPontus is a variant of the permanently blocked vandal JP eriksson, whos edits we on sv:wp usually reverts on the spot. Plaese check the edits by this user. Yger ( talk) 08:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Shouldnt there be a "Sunrise" on the diagram. Sunset is present, why not sunrise ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa ( talk • contribs) 12:12, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
As the calendar approaches the summer/winter solstices the days/nights get shorter, which can have a potential impact on the time and duration of dawn and dusk. What does "can" and "potential" mean in this sentence? In what cases are the times and durations not affected? -- 88.73.131.201 ( talk) 15:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
I just posted this in dusk, it also applies here:
Chiefly, there is little justification for a "technical definition" of civil/nautical/astronomical dusk. I have just checked all three editions of the Explanatory Supplement to the Astronomical Almanac (1961, 1992, 2010), the Astronomical Almanacs for 1960, 1980, 2010, as well as Meeus' Astronomical Algorithms and Montenbruck's Practical Ephemeris Calculations. Not one of these publications defines a "civil dusk" or "nautical dawn". In fact, none of them ever use the words "dusk" or "dawn". It is always simply "end of civil twilight" or similar. These are definitive references - if it doesn't appear in them, it doesn't exist. Tfr000 ( talk) 19:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no general agreement on a precise definition of "dawn"; it is sometimes even identified with sunrise itself. If, however, it is interpreted as the time of "first light", dawn corresponds to a depression between 18° and 12° but it is not possible to be more precise.
Tfr000 ( talk) 21:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
The file "File:Twilight subcategories.svg" was designed for dusk. If we are going to use it here, then it needs adapting by changing dusk to dawn. However, in view of the above section, perhaps it needs a more drastic change? Dbfirs 22:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
Actually, if we must use British English here to make you happy, please change it back. I don't think any of us really care one way or the other on that spelling. Thanks for your help. → Pocketthis ( talk) 19:26, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Like hearing this dawn 1booandahalf ( talk) 16:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
Title of films and series at least since 1996. Should be mentioned? Helium4 ( talk) 11:18, 26 March 2024 (UTC)