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Dating Summer Altice -former playboy playmate. It's covered on 'his own blog'. Once again censors here wont allow it because they don't think blogs are credible. LOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.73.155 ( talk) 23:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
He isn't dating her. Sorry.
He was. You obviously are bias. Endorsers don't want the news that he did a porno either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.144.203 ( talk) 19:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Never said he didn't, I said he wasn't. Thanks bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.253.191 ( talk) 00:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Everytime I write something here it's gone very soon, but I see no edit history. I want to add the Porno to David Williams' Wiki. I have tons of proof it was him, as is now generally accepted in the poker world.
and I appologize for the vandalism to the page - it's most likely my users from NWP, and I have asked them in the forums to stop. Even though the under-under-underground, close to David or the Magic scene knew about it, maybe 2000 ppl actually knew it was him. NWP made it a big enough deal so that *everyone* knew about it - my site was certianly the medium that brought the information to 100's of thousands.
Either way, a mention of NWP is not what I'm after here. I want a sentance or two about the porn scandal. I believe and something should also be said about how Cardplayer / Bluff / Pokernews and the big poker media all had stories ready to go and they all shelved them due to "taste issues." Further more, the DVD, which I own, is no longer available for purchase - a few weeks after NWP re-broke the story. DW bought the master from Janet. Something, SOMETHING should be said about this. It is a very important part of an encyclopedic entry. I absolutely love Wikipedia, and I want it to be as complete & factual as possible.
The purpose of Wikipedia is that is should contain as close to "The Whole Story" as possible. The line should say something like this:
"on 7/28/2003 David Williams starred in "College Cock; Volume 8 "Tony's First Lesson." In April of 2006 the story the story traveled around the internet poker communities and shortly thereafter the title was no longer for sale."
That is great! Citing the earliest reference is acceptable.
I don't understand. How would Accumulated Knowledge be the best card to have at the begining.
Who was it that said that Accumulated Knowledge was the best possible card for his starting hand? One or even two AKs against Van de Logt's RB deck would be marginal at best. They don't do anything against Plague Spitter or any of VdL's other threats.
Read any article on card advantage by Oscar Tan if you don't understand how important they were to the deck.
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08:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how current the statement that he's a student of Economics at Southern Methodist University is. Anyone know for sure? Essexmutant 01:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll just put this down here on record. WP:BLP and WP:NPOV hold that there is a strict requirement that information on Wikipedia be verifiable and that it be presented in a neutral way. Presenting this as fact "codified by pictures" and declaring that it goes "beyond coincidence" or whatever it was that the text some editors keep reverting to says CLEARLY advances a point of view. Furthermore, the analysis of the pictures and the degree of resemblance between them and Williams represents the original research of one or two Wikipedia editors, which means that WP:NOR again prevents the text from being included. If a reputable third party publication were to make the declarations that one or two editors want to make in this article, then we could potentially include them, sourced to the reputable third party publication. In the meantime, the edits should and will continue to be reverted. Croctotheface 22:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
````What garbage. He did to the porn. And the people demanding it be taken off the page have an AGENDA. They are either business partners or David Williams who is trying to cover it up.
Include the information. Wikipedia is becoming more and more used for polics and spin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.118.35 ( talk) 18:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
```` Every poker website is covering but we can't allow it posted here because Time,Washington Post and CNN didn't cover it. Suspicious to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.73.155 ( talk) 23:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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Pretty explicit, it would seem. Unit Anode 02:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Becuase this is embarassing doesn't mean that it is not true. It has been documented by sources including named authors. It is a noteworthy item and needs to be included. It is as noteworthy as much of the other material included on various pages. It should stay and it will stay one way or another. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.191.180 ( talk) 17:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
If what is true on the page Hoang would have won with a spade flush. Also, Williams hand is different on the WSOP Results page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Series_of_Poker_Results#Event_10:_.241.2C500_7_Card_Stud What was the hand of both of them because if it like that than Hoang would have won the event.
Removing the porn scandal background is AGAINST wiki policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.118.35 ( talk) 16:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
(Revising previous statement) Found a link. The story was posted in 2006 by a website that's proud of its "uncensored Poker news." Nevertheless, this has nothing to do his Poker career, so I'm not going to be changing my actions. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San ( talk) 18:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure what is "silly" about using Template:mtgcard for an mtg card. What else does the template exist to do? If there were an internal Accumulated Knowledge article, we would link to it. The template exists to help readers in precisely this way: they can click the link to see the card, which helps illustrate what the text is talking about. I see absolutely no reason I should be reverted and have my edits dismissed as "silly" because I'm trying to use this template. Croctotheface ( talk) 01:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I think its a little silly to assume a card from MTG will get its own article. There are literally thousand and thousands of cards in the collection and almost none of them will ever become notable enough to get its own article. Just by reading the article one cannot tell what Accumulated Knowledge does. The article never explains how that card works. At the very least there needs to be a citation explaining what it is as well as a link to said card. That way it should satisfy 2005's objection to have the external link in the main article. And although I agree that the advertising is pretty obnoxious, having advertising never stopped people linking to CardPlayer, PokerNews, or Hendon Mob; all of which have several ads for playing on Poker/Gambling sites. Strongsauce ( talk) 09:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
The title better suffixs "(poker player)" rather than "(card player)", although it seems poker is a card game, it's hard to say that a poker player is a "card player". I suppose it's also a little weird to call a Magic player a card player, making it less precise. So weird of that compromised name. David Williams is known as a poker player more than a Magic player. In the article it is also described that "his focus was mainly on poker", "he plays Magic to have fun, and poker to make money". So poker is his profession, we use the profession to suffix an article title about a person. -- Tomchen1989 ( talk) 14:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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Dating Summer Altice -former playboy playmate. It's covered on 'his own blog'. Once again censors here wont allow it because they don't think blogs are credible. LOL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.73.155 ( talk) 23:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
He isn't dating her. Sorry.
He was. You obviously are bias. Endorsers don't want the news that he did a porno either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.144.203 ( talk) 19:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Never said he didn't, I said he wasn't. Thanks bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.253.191 ( talk) 00:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Everytime I write something here it's gone very soon, but I see no edit history. I want to add the Porno to David Williams' Wiki. I have tons of proof it was him, as is now generally accepted in the poker world.
and I appologize for the vandalism to the page - it's most likely my users from NWP, and I have asked them in the forums to stop. Even though the under-under-underground, close to David or the Magic scene knew about it, maybe 2000 ppl actually knew it was him. NWP made it a big enough deal so that *everyone* knew about it - my site was certianly the medium that brought the information to 100's of thousands.
Either way, a mention of NWP is not what I'm after here. I want a sentance or two about the porn scandal. I believe and something should also be said about how Cardplayer / Bluff / Pokernews and the big poker media all had stories ready to go and they all shelved them due to "taste issues." Further more, the DVD, which I own, is no longer available for purchase - a few weeks after NWP re-broke the story. DW bought the master from Janet. Something, SOMETHING should be said about this. It is a very important part of an encyclopedic entry. I absolutely love Wikipedia, and I want it to be as complete & factual as possible.
The purpose of Wikipedia is that is should contain as close to "The Whole Story" as possible. The line should say something like this:
"on 7/28/2003 David Williams starred in "College Cock; Volume 8 "Tony's First Lesson." In April of 2006 the story the story traveled around the internet poker communities and shortly thereafter the title was no longer for sale."
That is great! Citing the earliest reference is acceptable.
I don't understand. How would Accumulated Knowledge be the best card to have at the begining.
Who was it that said that Accumulated Knowledge was the best possible card for his starting hand? One or even two AKs against Van de Logt's RB deck would be marginal at best. They don't do anything against Plague Spitter or any of VdL's other threats.
Read any article on card advantage by Oscar Tan if you don't understand how important they were to the deck.
Machine Man (
talk)
08:18, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Not sure how current the statement that he's a student of Economics at Southern Methodist University is. Anyone know for sure? Essexmutant 01:29, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I'll just put this down here on record. WP:BLP and WP:NPOV hold that there is a strict requirement that information on Wikipedia be verifiable and that it be presented in a neutral way. Presenting this as fact "codified by pictures" and declaring that it goes "beyond coincidence" or whatever it was that the text some editors keep reverting to says CLEARLY advances a point of view. Furthermore, the analysis of the pictures and the degree of resemblance between them and Williams represents the original research of one or two Wikipedia editors, which means that WP:NOR again prevents the text from being included. If a reputable third party publication were to make the declarations that one or two editors want to make in this article, then we could potentially include them, sourced to the reputable third party publication. In the meantime, the edits should and will continue to be reverted. Croctotheface 22:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
````What garbage. He did to the porn. And the people demanding it be taken off the page have an AGENDA. They are either business partners or David Williams who is trying to cover it up.
Include the information. Wikipedia is becoming more and more used for polics and spin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.118.35 ( talk) 18:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
```` Every poker website is covering but we can't allow it posted here because Time,Washington Post and CNN didn't cover it. Suspicious to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.73.155 ( talk) 23:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
"Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects is one of the important factors to be considered when exercising editorial judgment."
Pretty explicit, it would seem. Unit Anode 02:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Becuase this is embarassing doesn't mean that it is not true. It has been documented by sources including named authors. It is a noteworthy item and needs to be included. It is as noteworthy as much of the other material included on various pages. It should stay and it will stay one way or another. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.191.180 ( talk) 17:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
If what is true on the page Hoang would have won with a spade flush. Also, Williams hand is different on the WSOP Results page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_World_Series_of_Poker_Results#Event_10:_.241.2C500_7_Card_Stud What was the hand of both of them because if it like that than Hoang would have won the event.
Removing the porn scandal background is AGAINST wiki policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.118.35 ( talk) 16:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
(Revising previous statement) Found a link. The story was posted in 2006 by a website that's proud of its "uncensored Poker news." Nevertheless, this has nothing to do his Poker career, so I'm not going to be changing my actions. JaeDyWolf ~ Baka-San ( talk) 18:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure what is "silly" about using Template:mtgcard for an mtg card. What else does the template exist to do? If there were an internal Accumulated Knowledge article, we would link to it. The template exists to help readers in precisely this way: they can click the link to see the card, which helps illustrate what the text is talking about. I see absolutely no reason I should be reverted and have my edits dismissed as "silly" because I'm trying to use this template. Croctotheface ( talk) 01:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I think its a little silly to assume a card from MTG will get its own article. There are literally thousand and thousands of cards in the collection and almost none of them will ever become notable enough to get its own article. Just by reading the article one cannot tell what Accumulated Knowledge does. The article never explains how that card works. At the very least there needs to be a citation explaining what it is as well as a link to said card. That way it should satisfy 2005's objection to have the external link in the main article. And although I agree that the advertising is pretty obnoxious, having advertising never stopped people linking to CardPlayer, PokerNews, or Hendon Mob; all of which have several ads for playing on Poker/Gambling sites. Strongsauce ( talk) 09:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
The title better suffixs "(poker player)" rather than "(card player)", although it seems poker is a card game, it's hard to say that a poker player is a "card player". I suppose it's also a little weird to call a Magic player a card player, making it less precise. So weird of that compromised name. David Williams is known as a poker player more than a Magic player. In the article it is also described that "his focus was mainly on poker", "he plays Magic to have fun, and poker to make money". So poker is his profession, we use the profession to suffix an article title about a person. -- Tomchen1989 ( talk) 14:39, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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