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Thank you for amending the repeated citations. You have done that correctly, but that does not address the other points here in that some of the entries are not cited to Oram, and all those that are cited to Oram are already shown in the other family tree.
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Thank you very much again, so I understood that ancestries shouldn't be repeated after other family trees and continue to get more experience in article editing.😊 So I think it was good to add his ancestors in tab up to king Malcolm II
Dmitry Azikov (
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13:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)reply
^
abA Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
^
abcdefghiOram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
help page).
^
abFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162" Cite error: The named reference "<ref3" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
help page).
^
abcdefghA Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
^
abFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
^
abcdefgFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
^
abcdFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<ref7" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
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Ealdgyth (
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12:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Thank you for amending the repeated citations. You have done that correctly, but that does not address the other points here in that some of the entries are not cited to Oram, and all those that are cited to Oram are already shown in the other family tree.
Celia Homeford (
talk)
12:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)reply
Thank you very much again, so I understood that ancestries shouldn't be repeated after other family trees and continue to get more experience in article editing.😊 So I think it was good to add his ancestors in tab up to king Malcolm II
Dmitry Azikov (
talk)
13:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)reply
^
abA Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
^
abcdefghiOram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
help page).
^
abFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162" Cite error: The named reference "<ref3" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
help page).
^
abcdefghA Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
^
abFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
^
abcdefgFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
^
abcdFrederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<ref7" was defined multiple times with different content (see the
help page).