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Featured articleDavid I of Scotland is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
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Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 12, 2007 Peer reviewReviewed
February 22, 2007 Featured article candidatePromoted
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on April 27, 2004, and May 24, 2017.
Current status: Featured article

Ancestry

Hello I have an idea to add this ancestry of him using 2 additional genealogical sources:

  • Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, 1934 https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_Genealogical_and_Heraldic_History_of_t/vpHySDcAmU8C?hl=en&gbpv=0&kptab=overview#pli=1
  • Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals, 2004.  ISBN  0806317523 ISBN  9780806317526  https://books.google.ru/books/about/Ancestral_Roots_of_Certain_American_Colo.html?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&redir_esc=y

Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 09:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

What other wikipedia's do is not relevant to what the rules are here on English wikipedia. In general, we are not a genealogical source - we should not aim to present genealogical information. See WP:NOTGENEALOGY. And unsourced information is also not acceptable - please do not introduce unsourced information. And you shouldn't combine unrelated sources to produce family trees - if the sources for a subject's life do not give a four or five generation ancestral tree, then per WP:UNDUE and WP:OR, we should not combine unrelated sources to produce information that sources about a subject do not consider important about that subject. FOr David - we should report what the high quality sources provide about his ancestry The sources provided are not sources ABOUT David, they are genealogical reference books. That leaves aside the issue of using outdated sources like Burke's A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage or strictly genealogical sources like Weis (also - which edition of Weis is being referenced - there are 8 of them, after all.) Ealdgyth ( talk) 12:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Just to note, duplicate citations should be merged. See Wikipedia:Citing sources#Duplicate citations. One way to do this is by using named citations, such as the method described at Help:Footnotes#Footnotes: using a source more than once and Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations. Celia Homeford ( talk) 14:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much! I just didn't know earlier how to do it! But I used a bit differently variant, check me.😊 Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 16:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you for amending the repeated citations. You have done that correctly, but that does not address the other points here in that some of the entries are not cited to Oram, and all those that are cited to Oram are already shown in the other family tree. Celia Homeford ( talk) 12:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much again, so I understood that ancestries shouldn't be repeated after other family trees and continue to get more experience in article editing.😊 So I think it was good to add his ancestors in tab up to king Malcolm II Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 13:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  1. ^ a b A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  3. ^ a b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162" Cite error: The named reference "<ref3" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
  5. ^ a b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
  6. ^ a b c d e f g Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
  7. ^ a b c d Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<ref7" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Featured articleDavid I of Scotland is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on November 25, 2008.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 12, 2007 Peer reviewReviewed
February 22, 2007 Featured article candidatePromoted
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on April 27, 2004, and May 24, 2017.
Current status: Featured article

Ancestry

Hello I have an idea to add this ancestry of him using 2 additional genealogical sources:

  • Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke. A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, 1934 https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_Genealogical_and_Heraldic_History_of_t/vpHySDcAmU8C?hl=en&gbpv=0&kptab=overview#pli=1
  • Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals, 2004.  ISBN  0806317523 ISBN  9780806317526  https://books.google.ru/books/about/Ancestral_Roots_of_Certain_American_Colo.html?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&redir_esc=y

Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 09:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

What other wikipedia's do is not relevant to what the rules are here on English wikipedia. In general, we are not a genealogical source - we should not aim to present genealogical information. See WP:NOTGENEALOGY. And unsourced information is also not acceptable - please do not introduce unsourced information. And you shouldn't combine unrelated sources to produce family trees - if the sources for a subject's life do not give a four or five generation ancestral tree, then per WP:UNDUE and WP:OR, we should not combine unrelated sources to produce information that sources about a subject do not consider important about that subject. FOr David - we should report what the high quality sources provide about his ancestry The sources provided are not sources ABOUT David, they are genealogical reference books. That leaves aside the issue of using outdated sources like Burke's A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage or strictly genealogical sources like Weis (also - which edition of Weis is being referenced - there are 8 of them, after all.) Ealdgyth ( talk) 12:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Just to note, duplicate citations should be merged. See Wikipedia:Citing sources#Duplicate citations. One way to do this is by using named citations, such as the method described at Help:Footnotes#Footnotes: using a source more than once and Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations. Celia Homeford ( talk) 14:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much! I just didn't know earlier how to do it! But I used a bit differently variant, check me.😊 Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 16:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you for amending the repeated citations. You have done that correctly, but that does not address the other points here in that some of the entries are not cited to Oram, and all those that are cited to Oram are already shown in the other family tree. Celia Homeford ( talk) 12:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
Thank you very much again, so I understood that ancestries shouldn't be repeated after other family trees and continue to get more experience in article editing.😊 So I think it was good to add his ancestors in tab up to king Malcolm II Dmitry Azikov ( talk) 13:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply
  1. ^ a b A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 47–48
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i Oram, David, p. 10 Cite error: The named reference "<ref2" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  3. ^ a b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 161–162" Cite error: The named reference "<ref3" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, p. 47
  5. ^ a b Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 2, 162
  6. ^ a b c d e f g Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 161
  7. ^ a b c d Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 2. Cite error: The named reference "<ref7" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).

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