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The part about him being traded to make room for A. J. Cole isn’t mentioned later in the article. Either add it in or take it out entirely, as the lead is supposed to summarize what comes later.
”Later that season, Hale pitched a complete game win in the first game of a doubleheader against Cornell University. Although Princeton won the first game 7–5, they lost” – You can cut down on the words a bit by saying “Later that season, Hale pitched a complete game in the first game of a doubleheader against Cornell University. Although Princeton won 7–5, they lost”
”At the time of his recall to the majors” – “With Gwinnett” – Since Hale was called up on September 5, it is safe to say his minor league season was over.
”against the San Diego Padres, the most of any Braves pitcher in his debut, but the Braves went on to lose the game 4–3.” – “against the San Diego Padres. Though this was the most of any Braves pitcher in his debut, the Braves went on to lose the game 4–3.”
”was when Venable batted against Ross Ohlendorf of the Pittsburgh Pirates and Washington Nationals” – “were two instances when Venable batted against Ross Ohlendorf” – That way, people won’t read this and accidentally think Ohlendorf was with two teams at once.
It doesn’t look like Hale was actually the closer. He finished 13 games but never recorded a save. Maybe switch this to the total number of relief appearances he made.
”to begin 2015 and steadily improved over the early part of the season” – “to begin 2015, where, after a rough start, his performance steadily improved.”
No corrections here, just wanted to commend you on finding so much information about his time in Korea. This stuff is often a pain in the neck to find!
”designated Hale for assignment to make room on the postseason roster for Aaron Hicks and CC Sabathia” – “designated Hale for assignment when Aaron Hicks and CC Sabathia were added to the postseason roster” Since Hale wasn’t designated for assignment to make room for both of them. Or, you could see if you can find a source that makes clear whether Hicks or Sabathia was coming off the 60-day DL (the one you’ve got now doesn’t say).
You’ll need to find another source for this (such as Baseball-Reference), but I would point out that Hale only allowed one run in three innings in the 6-0 loss.
I would take out the last sentence. If Hale stays with the team a while, this could change, and it’s probably not going to be worth that much of a mention as his career continues to progress.
Take out “Although” at the start of the second sentence and put “but” before Hale’s thesis advisor. Then, end the sentence at instead and start a new one.
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
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17:43, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Reclosing as withdrawn rather than rejected based on nominator's statement shortly before close earlier today.
Hi
Kncny11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 20 June; is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't find any overly close paraphrasing from a sample of the sources; a QPQ has been carried out; image is OK and freely licensed. Couple of minor issues with the hooks as proposed:
ALT0: I couldn't find the date of his thesis mentioned in the article, it only discusses his graduation in 2011, did he go back after? His lumbar injury was in 2019 according to the article, though there is mention of a groin strain in 2015.
ALT1: The article doesn't say that he was released and re-signed on the same day, only that he was "briefly released"
Apologies. I have been dealing with a mental health diagnosis that makes the more social aspects of Wikipedia difficult, hence my individual editing. As it stands, it's difficult to find anything interesting about this man, so I'm fine with dropping the nom. — GhostRiver14:18, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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The part about him being traded to make room for A. J. Cole isn’t mentioned later in the article. Either add it in or take it out entirely, as the lead is supposed to summarize what comes later.
”Later that season, Hale pitched a complete game win in the first game of a doubleheader against Cornell University. Although Princeton won the first game 7–5, they lost” – You can cut down on the words a bit by saying “Later that season, Hale pitched a complete game in the first game of a doubleheader against Cornell University. Although Princeton won 7–5, they lost”
”At the time of his recall to the majors” – “With Gwinnett” – Since Hale was called up on September 5, it is safe to say his minor league season was over.
”against the San Diego Padres, the most of any Braves pitcher in his debut, but the Braves went on to lose the game 4–3.” – “against the San Diego Padres. Though this was the most of any Braves pitcher in his debut, the Braves went on to lose the game 4–3.”
”was when Venable batted against Ross Ohlendorf of the Pittsburgh Pirates and Washington Nationals” – “were two instances when Venable batted against Ross Ohlendorf” – That way, people won’t read this and accidentally think Ohlendorf was with two teams at once.
It doesn’t look like Hale was actually the closer. He finished 13 games but never recorded a save. Maybe switch this to the total number of relief appearances he made.
”to begin 2015 and steadily improved over the early part of the season” – “to begin 2015, where, after a rough start, his performance steadily improved.”
No corrections here, just wanted to commend you on finding so much information about his time in Korea. This stuff is often a pain in the neck to find!
”designated Hale for assignment to make room on the postseason roster for Aaron Hicks and CC Sabathia” – “designated Hale for assignment when Aaron Hicks and CC Sabathia were added to the postseason roster” Since Hale wasn’t designated for assignment to make room for both of them. Or, you could see if you can find a source that makes clear whether Hicks or Sabathia was coming off the 60-day DL (the one you’ve got now doesn’t say).
You’ll need to find another source for this (such as Baseball-Reference), but I would point out that Hale only allowed one run in three innings in the 6-0 loss.
I would take out the last sentence. If Hale stays with the team a while, this could change, and it’s probably not going to be worth that much of a mention as his career continues to progress.
Take out “Although” at the start of the second sentence and put “but” before Hale’s thesis advisor. Then, end the sentence at instead and start a new one.
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by
BlueMoonset (
talk)
17:43, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Reclosing as withdrawn rather than rejected based on nominator's statement shortly before close earlier today.
Hi
Kncny11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 20 June; is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't find any overly close paraphrasing from a sample of the sources; a QPQ has been carried out; image is OK and freely licensed. Couple of minor issues with the hooks as proposed:
ALT0: I couldn't find the date of his thesis mentioned in the article, it only discusses his graduation in 2011, did he go back after? His lumbar injury was in 2019 according to the article, though there is mention of a groin strain in 2015.
ALT1: The article doesn't say that he was released and re-signed on the same day, only that he was "briefly released"
Apologies. I have been dealing with a mental health diagnosis that makes the more social aspects of Wikipedia difficult, hence my individual editing. As it stands, it's difficult to find anything interesting about this man, so I'm fine with dropping the nom. — GhostRiver14:18, 7 August 2021 (UTC)reply