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2000 students is the largest in Missouri? I doubt this is the case, I came from a different high school in Missouri that also had over 2000 students. Perhaps it is the largest in Columbia, but not in all of Missouri? 12.207.135.128 04:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
DeSmet 3033 Christian Brothers College 2927 St. Louis University High 2879 Hazelwood Central 2806 Rockhurst 2787 Hickman 2752
Genius00345 00:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
--Hey, Americasroof, unless you have another source you can point out to us, don't say that Hickman is the largest high school in Missouri. Check out the numbers above. Genius00345 23:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I've probably spent much more time on this than I ever thought possible. I do think you're off on the the Catholic schools (DeSmet is the largest private school) but there's an asterik on Hazelwood Central High School.
The official site for the Missouri Department of Education which lists school size of all public schools is: http://dese.mo.gov/directory/
Columbia site is: http://dese.mo.gov/directory/010093.html It lists Hickman's enrollment as 1,974 (for 10-12)
Hazelwood's site is http://dese.mo.gov/directory/096088.html It lists 2,633 (for 9-12)
Since MSHSAA competition sizes are based on 9-12 the schools would be almost identical in size from a competition standpoint (doing rough math, Hickman's size would be 2,632 -- 1,974 + 1974/3). Hickman is probably bigger in real terms since they add the ninth grade classes that would attend there.
A more detailed breakout on the size issue would definitely raise the article to very notable (rather than just being another high school entry). Most folks would think the biggest Missouri school would be in KC or STL. And there's all sorts of hot buttons that can hit when a school in a moderate size university town gets that big.
Americasroof 13:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
--Wow. You really did some research! I was basing it off the only source I could think of, which was MSHSAA. I wasn't thinking that MSHSAA based the numbers 9-12. That definitely changes things. However, I am mystified as to why the other school's numbers are so far off. You suggested that MSHSAA covers the whole school system, but my school's number is correct for just the high school. Although, do we want to base the numbers for 9-12 or by the size of what the district considers 'high school' (in this case 10-12)? If you go by 9-12, Hickman and Hazelwood are basically tied. But by 'high school,' Hazelwood beats out Hickman no contest. We need to come to a consensus to avoid conflict in the future, and perhaps address this issue on the WikiProject Schools page as well. I'm sorry for seeming a bit snappy when I said "Hey, unless you have..." I guess I'm just a devoted Wikipedian striving for factual information. And out of sheer curiousity, are you a HHS student/alum, or just a devoted Wikipedian like me? Genius00345 22:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm....I'm not sure. Hazelwood certainly has the most on one campus, (they don't split up their 9th graders right?), but I don't know how big the 9th grade class at Hickman is...I wish MSHSAA would release numbers it would make things easier. I'll do some more poking around on this. Grey Wanderer | Talk 22:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
One thing to know about MSHSAA is that it tries to put all schools on an equal basis. DeSmet, for example (along with CBC, SLUH and Rockhurst) are all boys schools. So when MSHSAA figures their size, they double the numbers. Their logic is that a football team from a boy's school of 1000 boys should be equal to a football team from a Public school with 2000 students, given that half the students in a public school are girls. Additionally, they figure schools as 9-12. Hickman (and Rock Bridge, Webster Groves and others) are 10-12 schools. Hazelwood West, for example is a 7-12 school. Hazelwood Central is the largest school in Missouri, counting actual students on campus. I hope that helps make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.18.113.100 ( talk) 19:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Content: This is very broad coverage and meets those guidelines. You may consider breaking off the athletics section into its own article and putting together a good two or three paragraph summary as the long list of state champs takes away from the article. Writing: This artilce needs to be copy edited. In the lead we have: "being rating within the top 5% of high schools " which should be rated. But that is not it, otherwise I could quickly fix this. A quick critique on just the History section:
In the end, this is a great start and far ahead of most high school articles and even many college articles. It is a solid B class article, but needs some work to bring it up to GA. I would strongly suggest waiting for the peer review requested above and getting a third party to copy-edit this article before submitting for GA again. Once again, great job getting the article this far. Aboutmovies 20:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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2000 students is the largest in Missouri? I doubt this is the case, I came from a different high school in Missouri that also had over 2000 students. Perhaps it is the largest in Columbia, but not in all of Missouri? 12.207.135.128 04:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
DeSmet 3033 Christian Brothers College 2927 St. Louis University High 2879 Hazelwood Central 2806 Rockhurst 2787 Hickman 2752
Genius00345 00:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
--Hey, Americasroof, unless you have another source you can point out to us, don't say that Hickman is the largest high school in Missouri. Check out the numbers above. Genius00345 23:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I've probably spent much more time on this than I ever thought possible. I do think you're off on the the Catholic schools (DeSmet is the largest private school) but there's an asterik on Hazelwood Central High School.
The official site for the Missouri Department of Education which lists school size of all public schools is: http://dese.mo.gov/directory/
Columbia site is: http://dese.mo.gov/directory/010093.html It lists Hickman's enrollment as 1,974 (for 10-12)
Hazelwood's site is http://dese.mo.gov/directory/096088.html It lists 2,633 (for 9-12)
Since MSHSAA competition sizes are based on 9-12 the schools would be almost identical in size from a competition standpoint (doing rough math, Hickman's size would be 2,632 -- 1,974 + 1974/3). Hickman is probably bigger in real terms since they add the ninth grade classes that would attend there.
A more detailed breakout on the size issue would definitely raise the article to very notable (rather than just being another high school entry). Most folks would think the biggest Missouri school would be in KC or STL. And there's all sorts of hot buttons that can hit when a school in a moderate size university town gets that big.
Americasroof 13:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
--Wow. You really did some research! I was basing it off the only source I could think of, which was MSHSAA. I wasn't thinking that MSHSAA based the numbers 9-12. That definitely changes things. However, I am mystified as to why the other school's numbers are so far off. You suggested that MSHSAA covers the whole school system, but my school's number is correct for just the high school. Although, do we want to base the numbers for 9-12 or by the size of what the district considers 'high school' (in this case 10-12)? If you go by 9-12, Hickman and Hazelwood are basically tied. But by 'high school,' Hazelwood beats out Hickman no contest. We need to come to a consensus to avoid conflict in the future, and perhaps address this issue on the WikiProject Schools page as well. I'm sorry for seeming a bit snappy when I said "Hey, unless you have..." I guess I'm just a devoted Wikipedian striving for factual information. And out of sheer curiousity, are you a HHS student/alum, or just a devoted Wikipedian like me? Genius00345 22:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm....I'm not sure. Hazelwood certainly has the most on one campus, (they don't split up their 9th graders right?), but I don't know how big the 9th grade class at Hickman is...I wish MSHSAA would release numbers it would make things easier. I'll do some more poking around on this. Grey Wanderer | Talk 22:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
One thing to know about MSHSAA is that it tries to put all schools on an equal basis. DeSmet, for example (along with CBC, SLUH and Rockhurst) are all boys schools. So when MSHSAA figures their size, they double the numbers. Their logic is that a football team from a boy's school of 1000 boys should be equal to a football team from a Public school with 2000 students, given that half the students in a public school are girls. Additionally, they figure schools as 9-12. Hickman (and Rock Bridge, Webster Groves and others) are 10-12 schools. Hazelwood West, for example is a 7-12 school. Hazelwood Central is the largest school in Missouri, counting actual students on campus. I hope that helps make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.18.113.100 ( talk) 19:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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Content: This is very broad coverage and meets those guidelines. You may consider breaking off the athletics section into its own article and putting together a good two or three paragraph summary as the long list of state champs takes away from the article. Writing: This artilce needs to be copy edited. In the lead we have: "being rating within the top 5% of high schools " which should be rated. But that is not it, otherwise I could quickly fix this. A quick critique on just the History section:
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