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"Beaton was little interested in Church reform, living, like many pre-Reformation prelates, in open concubinage, providing lavishly for his children from ecclesiastical property"
this highly controversial and provacativ e quote is without a citation Peppermintschnapps ( talk) 01:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Two small alterations. James V was not at Solway Moss. I've also removed the reference to a 'failed' Scottish invasion of England in 1545. I know of no such invasion. I assume that this does not refer to the repeated raids and counter-raids that were such a feature of Border life, both then and later? Rcpaterson 00:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Before moving this article again please read the top of the official policy on WP:NAME. Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. Another way to summarize the overall principle of Wikipedia's naming conventions: Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists.
e, here's the thing. No-one outside Roman Catholic specialists ever referrs to David Beaton as 'David Cardinal Beaton'. He is invariable known as David Beaton, Cardinal Beaton, Cardinal David Beaton
I'd say that's pretty conclusive. The western clergy guideline (which no doubt is the reason for the move - although no reason was actually given - very bad) is obviously not in conformity with our *policy* - perhaps you should update it?. -- Docg 09:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised at DocGlagow's recent changes. It is surely going against the practice of most histories to describe as anachronistic the use of the term "Roman Catholic" prior to the Reformation. There wasn't only one Christian denomination, there was the Greek Orthodox church. PatGallacher 16:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I made the "religion" paramter optional by adding a ParserFunction to the template. See this revision. Hopefully that will reolve the issue. -- Iamunknown 18:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know how to add citation needed tag, however, when discussing his death there is a reference [2] which contains nothing about who murdered him. If you look at the Earl of Rothes page it states that the Earl was tried & found not guilty. Could someone chase up citation or remove unfounded text (",) Thanks 86.63.26.124 ( talk) 23:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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"Beaton was little interested in Church reform, living, like many pre-Reformation prelates, in open concubinage, providing lavishly for his children from ecclesiastical property"
this highly controversial and provacativ e quote is without a citation Peppermintschnapps ( talk) 01:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Two small alterations. James V was not at Solway Moss. I've also removed the reference to a 'failed' Scottish invasion of England in 1545. I know of no such invasion. I assume that this does not refer to the repeated raids and counter-raids that were such a feature of Border life, both then and later? Rcpaterson 00:28, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Before moving this article again please read the top of the official policy on WP:NAME. Generally, article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. Another way to summarize the overall principle of Wikipedia's naming conventions: Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists.
e, here's the thing. No-one outside Roman Catholic specialists ever referrs to David Beaton as 'David Cardinal Beaton'. He is invariable known as David Beaton, Cardinal Beaton, Cardinal David Beaton
I'd say that's pretty conclusive. The western clergy guideline (which no doubt is the reason for the move - although no reason was actually given - very bad) is obviously not in conformity with our *policy* - perhaps you should update it?. -- Docg 09:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised at DocGlagow's recent changes. It is surely going against the practice of most histories to describe as anachronistic the use of the term "Roman Catholic" prior to the Reformation. There wasn't only one Christian denomination, there was the Greek Orthodox church. PatGallacher 16:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I made the "religion" paramter optional by adding a ParserFunction to the template. See this revision. Hopefully that will reolve the issue. -- Iamunknown 18:38, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know how to add citation needed tag, however, when discussing his death there is a reference [2] which contains nothing about who murdered him. If you look at the Earl of Rothes page it states that the Earl was tried & found not guilty. Could someone chase up citation or remove unfounded text (",) Thanks 86.63.26.124 ( talk) 23:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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