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![]() | On 21 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Daughters of Jacob Bridge to Gesher Benot Ya'aqov. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Hey folks, I'm not an editor here so apologies if I'm making this point in the wrong place. Just wanted to alert someone that I attempted to verify reference #11 ( http://rdcu.be/AOt0) and did not find any material related to the claim being made regarding early fire use. Possibly a better source would be Goren-Inbar et al. 2004. "Evidence of Hominin Control of Fire at Gesher Benot Ya`aqov, Israel" SCIENCE Apr:p725-727. I don't think the statement is incorrect, I'm just having a very hard time finding anything related to Gesher Bnot ya'akov in this piece about Neanderthals in Northwestern Europe. If I've made this point in error, I apologize in advance for any wasted time. Thank you for the excellent work you do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewDK ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know the relevance of this seemingly unrelated section? It should be deleted I think. -- Mlevitt1 ( talk) 20:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
The article evolved into dealing with the ford and the surrounding area, NOT primarily with the old stone bridge, whose fate isn't even properly followed through. Like always, if there's no clear definition of the topic in the choice of title and the lead's first sentence followed by an editorial enforcement of the topic, or a later redefining of the topic if the article takes a justified divergent shape in time, all we get is a big, largely useless mess. Arminden ( talk) 09:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
What theories are there about when it was first built? None before the 1240s, really?! What happened to its remains after WWI in the '20s? What in the '30s, after the new bridge was built further south? BTW, are the new bridges (Bailey & concrete) at the site of the stone bridge, or of the 1930s one? For now we have a pile of data, but not a history. Arminden ( talk) 09:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
To add to this article: which species of humans was living there 790,000 years ago? Was it Homo erectus or Homo ergaster? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 23:44, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
It seems to me that the Gesher Benot Ya'aqov (aka Gesher Benot Yaakov which redirects here) site deserves its own article. Especially given the number of academic papers that discuss the finds there. ( Latest here.) That would help focus this article on the bridge and trade routes. -- Bejnar ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 ( talk) ★ 22:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Daughters of Jacob Bridge → Gesher Benot Ya'aqov – English languages source overwhelmingly use a direct transliteration of the Hebrew name over the translation, see [1] [2] Hemiauchenia ( talk) 17:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 18:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
The overwhelming majority of the english sources utilizing Gesher Benot Ya'aqov use it to to mention the archaeological site nearby as opposed to the bridge itself. Excluding the uses in reference to the archaeological site, the use of the english translation is more common. The archaeological site likely deserves its own article (such is already done in the Hebrew wikipedia as גשר בנות יעקב (אתר ארכאולוגי) ) Game Is (presumably) Wikipedian ( tea?) 08:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 21 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Daughters of Jacob Bridge to Gesher Benot Ya'aqov. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Hey folks, I'm not an editor here so apologies if I'm making this point in the wrong place. Just wanted to alert someone that I attempted to verify reference #11 ( http://rdcu.be/AOt0) and did not find any material related to the claim being made regarding early fire use. Possibly a better source would be Goren-Inbar et al. 2004. "Evidence of Hominin Control of Fire at Gesher Benot Ya`aqov, Israel" SCIENCE Apr:p725-727. I don't think the statement is incorrect, I'm just having a very hard time finding anything related to Gesher Bnot ya'akov in this piece about Neanderthals in Northwestern Europe. If I've made this point in error, I apologize in advance for any wasted time. Thank you for the excellent work you do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MatthewDK ( talk • contribs) 22:58, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Anyone know the relevance of this seemingly unrelated section? It should be deleted I think. -- Mlevitt1 ( talk) 20:05, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
The article evolved into dealing with the ford and the surrounding area, NOT primarily with the old stone bridge, whose fate isn't even properly followed through. Like always, if there's no clear definition of the topic in the choice of title and the lead's first sentence followed by an editorial enforcement of the topic, or a later redefining of the topic if the article takes a justified divergent shape in time, all we get is a big, largely useless mess. Arminden ( talk) 09:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
What theories are there about when it was first built? None before the 1240s, really?! What happened to its remains after WWI in the '20s? What in the '30s, after the new bridge was built further south? BTW, are the new bridges (Bailey & concrete) at the site of the stone bridge, or of the 1930s one? For now we have a pile of data, but not a history. Arminden ( talk) 09:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
To add to this article: which species of humans was living there 790,000 years ago? Was it Homo erectus or Homo ergaster? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 23:44, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
It seems to me that the Gesher Benot Ya'aqov (aka Gesher Benot Yaakov which redirects here) site deserves its own article. Especially given the number of academic papers that discuss the finds there. ( Latest here.) That would help focus this article on the bridge and trade routes. -- Bejnar ( talk) 18:15, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 ( talk) ★ 22:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Daughters of Jacob Bridge → Gesher Benot Ya'aqov – English languages source overwhelmingly use a direct transliteration of the Hebrew name over the translation, see [1] [2] Hemiauchenia ( talk) 17:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 18:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
The overwhelming majority of the english sources utilizing Gesher Benot Ya'aqov use it to to mention the archaeological site nearby as opposed to the bridge itself. Excluding the uses in reference to the archaeological site, the use of the english translation is more common. The archaeological site likely deserves its own article (such is already done in the Hebrew wikipedia as גשר בנות יעקב (אתר ארכאולוגי) ) Game Is (presumably) Wikipedian ( tea?) 08:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)