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Merging with Bit rate

I disagree with merging this with bitrate as transfer rate can refer to other metrics such as packets/s or char/s.   — Teknic T- M- C 11:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wouldn't this fall into the category of symbol rates? -Tony

I believe a merge is not appropriate. The wiki should be using CSS to display the data and the amount of clarification possible would surely outweigh the small amount of server space that is required for the text. - MJPollard

  • I think we should bring all the other "????rate" articles under Data transfer rate. Data transfer rate is the most general title and refers to all form of data being transferred through a medium. It'll make it much easier to edit instead of maintaining multiple similar pages. -- Pavithran 21:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC) reply

I think that a smaller less-developed page should be merged to a better-developed if they overlap. There is no reason for every term to have a separate article, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. After the merge, it will be the time to discuss whether Bit rate or Data transfer rate is a proper name. I am sure such discussion will be based solely on reliable sources plus WP:COMMONNAME, not on "IMHOs" (or IMNSHOs). -- Kubanczyk 16:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC) reply

I support a merge of all *rate articles. The bit rate article covers it all, and is more topical, but may be renamed to something else if you prefer that. The rest of the articles may basically be deleted. Mange01 00:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Support merge. Seems a logical move. Hadrianheugh ( talk) 22:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Keep apart the video/auido thing should be kept apart from the technical manners -- 84.156.111.107 ( talk) 15:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Support merge but keep generic name (data transfer rate not bit rate). Per Pavithran. Thunderbird2 ( talk) 22:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Perhaps the main article should be named data rate, then data transfer rate, bandwidth and bit rate could be explained in sections of that article. -- X-Bert ( talk) 22:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Keep separate. Bit rate and data rate, though similar, are not the same thing. In communications, the bit rate is the raw number of bits that is transmitted per unit time; it includes data as well as non-data overhead characters. Data rate is the amount of useful data that is transmitted per unit time. For example, a standard TCP/IP packet contains a 40 byte header plus data. To send one (1) data bit requires sending 321 bits, giving a bit rate 321 times the data rate. Truthanado ( talk) 05:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Merging with Bit rate

I disagree with merging this with bitrate as transfer rate can refer to other metrics such as packets/s or char/s.   — Teknic T- M- C 11:07, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wouldn't this fall into the category of symbol rates? -Tony

I believe a merge is not appropriate. The wiki should be using CSS to display the data and the amount of clarification possible would surely outweigh the small amount of server space that is required for the text. - MJPollard

  • I think we should bring all the other "????rate" articles under Data transfer rate. Data transfer rate is the most general title and refers to all form of data being transferred through a medium. It'll make it much easier to edit instead of maintaining multiple similar pages. -- Pavithran 21:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC) reply

I think that a smaller less-developed page should be merged to a better-developed if they overlap. There is no reason for every term to have a separate article, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. After the merge, it will be the time to discuss whether Bit rate or Data transfer rate is a proper name. I am sure such discussion will be based solely on reliable sources plus WP:COMMONNAME, not on "IMHOs" (or IMNSHOs). -- Kubanczyk 16:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC) reply

I support a merge of all *rate articles. The bit rate article covers it all, and is more topical, but may be renamed to something else if you prefer that. The rest of the articles may basically be deleted. Mange01 00:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC) reply

Support merge. Seems a logical move. Hadrianheugh ( talk) 22:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC) reply

Keep apart the video/auido thing should be kept apart from the technical manners -- 84.156.111.107 ( talk) 15:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC) reply

Support merge but keep generic name (data transfer rate not bit rate). Per Pavithran. Thunderbird2 ( talk) 22:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC) reply

Perhaps the main article should be named data rate, then data transfer rate, bandwidth and bit rate could be explained in sections of that article. -- X-Bert ( talk) 22:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC) reply

Keep separate. Bit rate and data rate, though similar, are not the same thing. In communications, the bit rate is the raw number of bits that is transmitted per unit time; it includes data as well as non-data overhead characters. Data rate is the amount of useful data that is transmitted per unit time. For example, a standard TCP/IP packet contains a 40 byte header plus data. To send one (1) data bit requires sending 321 bits, giving a bit rate 321 times the data rate. Truthanado ( talk) 05:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC) reply


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