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Hmmm, a lot of the stuff in this article seems to be speculation. What are the sources for the information? Impi 21:07, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The article is in general the nonsense! Just one example: "Until June 2005, the UCAV nEUROn design was a full scale evolution of the twin-engine AVE-C Moyen Duc (2001) tactical UAV whose appearance was inspired by the stealth bomber Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit." B-2 bomber is clean tailess flying wing, based on the Gaussian curves - the principle developed during the Northrop´s Tacit Blue program that is already 30 years old and obsolete. Compared to it nEUROn and also Dassault Grand Duc and its predcessors AVE-C Moyen Duc and AVE-D Petit Duc are completely different designs, based on the diamond and triangular platforms - a very few generic designs used on unmanned stealthy aerial vehicles worldwide. They are not even the flying wings, nor based on gaussian curves or related to B-2!! It is like to say that the cherry was inspired by the tomato, because in general they look the same. This is the similar silly statement, that can be made only by person without at least basic aeronautical and engineering knowledge.
Also I would really like to know, from where Wiki has the unit costs, while the production machines *were not even defined yet*!! The only quazi pre-production prototype was planned Dassault Grand Duc, but it was cancelled already in 2003. nEUROn is only a technology demonstrator, there will be not any serial version of it at all. UCAS for the operational service will be based on the TECHNOLOGIES, not the DEMONSTRATOR, developed during the nEUROn program and is expected to be defined sometime in 2015 - 2020 timeframe. For example Alenia Aeronautica is already planning to use some of the technologies and also some of the experience gained during Sky-X program in its own UCAS design Black Lynx, that is low aspect ratio wing subsonic plane with the two diesel engines and propellers.
And when I read this discussion about that someone was able to write, that this kind of platform with its shape and wings (and propulsion) will be expected to reach Mach 5+... That is the pure ignorance of the basic laws of physics!
Currently I wrote a large article about the subject (English translation is also available). If anybody wants to corrent this Wiki´s "aerospace fan page", you can also take a look at it at http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/UCAV05.htm It will be online from tomorrow (9. September 2009).
Ing. Matej Furda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.148.39 ( talk) 16:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
i just want to move this article. the real and official spelling is Dassault nEUROn so this temporary "project" spelling ("Dassault Neuron") should be moved to the real one, but 'moving' is disabled as the real spelling article is already used as a redirect. so if anyone here with adminsuperpower could do the right stuff it would be cool. thanks. Shame On You 11:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, sorry for seeing the above thread a bit late. Just a few points:
here's the contact mail if anyone is interested to get official infos and data about neuron to add in the article. i would mail them when i get time. Shame On You 19:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
A good article, but in need of significant attention.
The first paragraph of the Dassault nEUROn article has the sentence:
However Dassault plan to primary use the data collected by the demonstrator to produce derived UCLAs.
What are the UCLAs mentioned? Obviously, University of California, Los Angeles is not what was meant. 75.185.66.16 15:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hmmm, a lot of the stuff in this article seems to be speculation. What are the sources for the information? Impi 21:07, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
The article is in general the nonsense! Just one example: "Until June 2005, the UCAV nEUROn design was a full scale evolution of the twin-engine AVE-C Moyen Duc (2001) tactical UAV whose appearance was inspired by the stealth bomber Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit." B-2 bomber is clean tailess flying wing, based on the Gaussian curves - the principle developed during the Northrop´s Tacit Blue program that is already 30 years old and obsolete. Compared to it nEUROn and also Dassault Grand Duc and its predcessors AVE-C Moyen Duc and AVE-D Petit Duc are completely different designs, based on the diamond and triangular platforms - a very few generic designs used on unmanned stealthy aerial vehicles worldwide. They are not even the flying wings, nor based on gaussian curves or related to B-2!! It is like to say that the cherry was inspired by the tomato, because in general they look the same. This is the similar silly statement, that can be made only by person without at least basic aeronautical and engineering knowledge.
Also I would really like to know, from where Wiki has the unit costs, while the production machines *were not even defined yet*!! The only quazi pre-production prototype was planned Dassault Grand Duc, but it was cancelled already in 2003. nEUROn is only a technology demonstrator, there will be not any serial version of it at all. UCAS for the operational service will be based on the TECHNOLOGIES, not the DEMONSTRATOR, developed during the nEUROn program and is expected to be defined sometime in 2015 - 2020 timeframe. For example Alenia Aeronautica is already planning to use some of the technologies and also some of the experience gained during Sky-X program in its own UCAS design Black Lynx, that is low aspect ratio wing subsonic plane with the two diesel engines and propellers.
And when I read this discussion about that someone was able to write, that this kind of platform with its shape and wings (and propulsion) will be expected to reach Mach 5+... That is the pure ignorance of the basic laws of physics!
Currently I wrote a large article about the subject (English translation is also available). If anybody wants to corrent this Wiki´s "aerospace fan page", you can also take a look at it at http://www.hitechweb.genezis.eu/UCAV05.htm It will be online from tomorrow (9. September 2009).
Ing. Matej Furda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.99.148.39 ( talk) 16:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
i just want to move this article. the real and official spelling is Dassault nEUROn so this temporary "project" spelling ("Dassault Neuron") should be moved to the real one, but 'moving' is disabled as the real spelling article is already used as a redirect. so if anyone here with adminsuperpower could do the right stuff it would be cool. thanks. Shame On You 11:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, sorry for seeing the above thread a bit late. Just a few points:
here's the contact mail if anyone is interested to get official infos and data about neuron to add in the article. i would mail them when i get time. Shame On You 19:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
A good article, but in need of significant attention.
The first paragraph of the Dassault nEUROn article has the sentence:
However Dassault plan to primary use the data collected by the demonstrator to produce derived UCLAs.
What are the UCLAs mentioned? Obviously, University of California, Los Angeles is not what was meant. 75.185.66.16 15:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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