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Bach's cantata for the second day of
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Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes ("For this the Son of God appeared"), BWV 40, is his first
Christmas cantata composed for Leipzig? | ||||||||||
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Reviewer: Mkativerata ( talk · contribs) 00:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gerda, I'd be happy to do this one and am just posting here to reserve it for myself. After two reads through it looks like a pretty safe pass. But I prefer to aim above the GA criteria with reviews, just to get as good an article as possible, so if it's ok with you, so I'll probably have a few prose comments that aren't really necessary for GA level. I've downloaded a recording of the cantata off ITunes and I'll listen to that as well before posting comments here over the next few days. Cheers. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 00:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gerda, here are my comments on the first half of the article. As foreshadowed, it's mostly on prose. I suspect at times the article is trying to jam a bit too much information into single sentences. Not that there are any major issues.
I won't do the checklist thing; it suffices to say that there are no apparent problems with the other -- much more important -- GA criteria (neutrality, comprehensiveness, accuracy, stability).
I'll hopefully have the comments on the second half within the coming week. That is the fun part where I get to listen to the music against the commentary in the "Music" section of the article :) And Happy New Year! -- Mkativerata ( talk) 21:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't read all the sources for this section, but the sources I could read -- mainly Mincham -- support the material cited. This section of the article deals with some of the eight movements only very briefly, but so do most of the sources, so that treatment doesn't seem unwarranted. Specific comments:
Thanks Gerda -- i've passed it now. But where on this page do you think it should be listed? "Pre 1990 songs" is the closest, yet seems totally inappropriate. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 21:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
The article cites Dürr 1971 while the Biography gives a date of 1981. Which is correct? Aa77zz ( talk) 21:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Title Should be "Dazu...." Researching Bach Cantatas for my job, I find that only wikipedia has this spelling. "Darzu" is meaningless, at least in Modern High German. While it's conceivable that it's a spelling that's changed over time, I can find no other source with this spelling. Most use "Dazu". Jrgsf 19:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrgsf ( talk • contribs)
This article states that Bach scored it for a "two horns (corno da caccia)." Bach could not have possibly scored it for corno da caccia since valved horns did not exist at the time. Perhaps a statement like "(corno da caccia in modern performances)" would be appropriate. I'm not sure about England, but in the US corno da caccia is normally called the French Horn and that name would be better than corno da caccia. Mike32065 ( talk) 14:25, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | ||||||||||
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A
fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
December 26, 2012. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that
Bach's cantata for the second day of
Christmas,
Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes ("For this the Son of God appeared"), BWV 40, is his first
Christmas cantata composed for Leipzig? | ||||||||||
A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the " On this day..." column on December 26, 2023. |
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Reviewer: Mkativerata ( talk · contribs) 00:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gerda, I'd be happy to do this one and am just posting here to reserve it for myself. After two reads through it looks like a pretty safe pass. But I prefer to aim above the GA criteria with reviews, just to get as good an article as possible, so if it's ok with you, so I'll probably have a few prose comments that aren't really necessary for GA level. I've downloaded a recording of the cantata off ITunes and I'll listen to that as well before posting comments here over the next few days. Cheers. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 00:49, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Gerda, here are my comments on the first half of the article. As foreshadowed, it's mostly on prose. I suspect at times the article is trying to jam a bit too much information into single sentences. Not that there are any major issues.
I won't do the checklist thing; it suffices to say that there are no apparent problems with the other -- much more important -- GA criteria (neutrality, comprehensiveness, accuracy, stability).
I'll hopefully have the comments on the second half within the coming week. That is the fun part where I get to listen to the music against the commentary in the "Music" section of the article :) And Happy New Year! -- Mkativerata ( talk) 21:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
I couldn't read all the sources for this section, but the sources I could read -- mainly Mincham -- support the material cited. This section of the article deals with some of the eight movements only very briefly, but so do most of the sources, so that treatment doesn't seem unwarranted. Specific comments:
Thanks Gerda -- i've passed it now. But where on this page do you think it should be listed? "Pre 1990 songs" is the closest, yet seems totally inappropriate. -- Mkativerata ( talk) 21:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
The article cites Dürr 1971 while the Biography gives a date of 1981. Which is correct? Aa77zz ( talk) 21:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Title Should be "Dazu...." Researching Bach Cantatas for my job, I find that only wikipedia has this spelling. "Darzu" is meaningless, at least in Modern High German. While it's conceivable that it's a spelling that's changed over time, I can find no other source with this spelling. Most use "Dazu". Jrgsf 19:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrgsf ( talk • contribs)
This article states that Bach scored it for a "two horns (corno da caccia)." Bach could not have possibly scored it for corno da caccia since valved horns did not exist at the time. Perhaps a statement like "(corno da caccia in modern performances)" would be appropriate. I'm not sure about England, but in the US corno da caccia is normally called the French Horn and that name would be better than corno da caccia. Mike32065 ( talk) 14:25, 3 November 2022 (UTC)