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Can someone please replace that awful cartoon with a decent picture of the great man? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jive Dadson ( talk • contribs). 02:02, 20 November 2006
Keep it. It fits the article. Besides, it darwin is your hero, do you really want him associated with a guy who cut off his own head? stargate70 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.86.101.209 ( talk • contribs). 01:13, 21 December 2006
Way to try and flame someone stargate70. Charles Darwin did not cut his own head off, he died from old age/disease.
People I know have been going on and on about a man who was taking care of a constipated elephant. He fed the elephant some whole grains, and was looking up the elephant's rear to see how things were "coming along." At the moment he was looking, the elephant chose that moment to empty its intestines on the man. So the man suffocated.
I'm not actually sure if it's actually true and won the Darwin Award, but it's an interesting point. 74.116.6.73 03:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
this article does not exist just to push wendy's books and website... if you are going to throw her info in you should really add some other sites as well to the info paragraphs to be partial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.178.18.85 ( talk) 20:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
It is improper not to mention the books (hundreds of stories) so I have added them back. Nearly all the Darwin Awards were written by Wendy Northcutt, except the Urban Legends and a few early ones. The title was licensed to the movie. So if you're going to include the movie, which is not yet released and incidentally does beyond-the-pale things like make "darwin awards" out of incidents that harm innocent bystanders, you need also include the books, which came first, and are more comprehensive. Thank you. Wendy Wendy 07:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
There's way too much informaiton about hte movie. I am not REMOVING information from the Wiki; I am redirecting interested parties to thte movie section, which is better-maintained. Thank you! Thanks for reading this discussion. 69.181.208.148 01:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
"trying to get enough light to look down a gun barrel using a cigarette lighter (USA, 1996)" Whoever wrote this is apparently unfamiliar with how guns work. Plus the sentence is unclear. Using a lighter to illuminate the barrel of an unloaded gun is not at all dangerous. There's nothing in an unloaded gun that is flamable. Do people think that guns work by spraying gasoline around or something? A gun is just a lump of iron and wood, and even setting a gun on fire will not cause anything especially unsafe to happen.
Secondly, getting a lit flame near a loaded gun is not in itself dangerous. Ammunition is sealed in brass cartridges which are for our purposes air and water tight. Exposing these cartridges to open flame will not neccessarily cause anything to happen. Besides, this is all negated by the fact that you CAN'T illuminate the barrel of a loaded gun, because in order to do so you need to apply a source of light to one end of the barrel, and peer through the other. You can't do this in a loaded weapon, because by being loaded, one end of the barrel is plugged by the cartridge.
Looking down the barrel of a loaded weapon is, of course, stupid, but the sentence doesn't mention that it's loaded. Sportsmen look down the barrel of unloaded weapons all the time. It's how you check to see that the barrel is clean. So what is the sentence implying? That it's stupid or suicidal to get a lit flame near a gun? But that isn't true. Is it trying to say that looking down the barrel of a gun is stupid or suicidal? But that's not neccessarily true. This article is stupid. I rest my case, your honor.
The Darwin_ape picture might fit on the evolution page, but it seems very out of place here, considering the darwin awards have barely anything to do with evolution or darwin. Seems like something from jackass, or maybe the darwin awards logo would be better...-- feb talk 22:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Feba, I can understand why you feel uneasy about the picture.
Greg, those are arguments in favor of a picture of Darwin (see e.g. the main page of the Darwin Awards site), not in favor of a satirical sketch of him. I tried to replace the sketch with a neutral (as opposed to negative) picture that might be supported by more editors and at least would make you lighten up... Yet you removed it without discussion although it looks like you're the only editor here who wants to keep it. I for one do not see the reason for satirizing Darwin here. To me it looks like a creationist article. And please stop using anti-vandalism tools to revert edits you dispute. See [1]. AvB ÷ talk 16:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
This would be entertaining if it wasn't so pathetic. Feb has come up with multiple theories -- that the satirical picture implies creationism (hint: as an astronomer from the Southern US, I hate creationism far more than you do), that the Darwin Awards have nothing to do with Darwin and Evolution (even though the books are filled with science essays discussing the issue), and that only I oppose changing the picture (when there's a 2nd opposer quoted at the top of the page... and you should ask Smith Jones what he thinks)... Well, feb, I'm glad to see that Wikipedia gives you the power to implement those things about which there is "really no argument". Geez. Greg 20:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Feb, you're adding more good arguments but you really don't have to. As it stands, just about any picture will do except the Darwin Ape one since it's currently being disputed by two editors and defended by one editor who clearly doesn't even want to consider a compromise. Once again, if Greg really wants that picture in the article, his only option is to follow WP:DR. Instead, he's trying to wind people up, using as a weapon his perceived superiority at just about everything from sense of humor to IQ to academic achievements. AvB ÷ talk 08:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
oh okay but why is it deffault to assume no connection? i mean it has his name on it and his family woudl at lest make a statement even if they couldt control the name because the dawrin awards is very famous and notable and uses their last name. why??? Smith Jones 16:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
fine well leave it off Smith Jones 00:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Since you seem to view each other's talk page edits as trolling, how about WP:NOFEEDING? I'm now going back to do exactly that. AvB ÷ talk 12:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
"Descriptions below are taken directly from the Darwin awards website."
Sounds like a blantant copyright vilation to me. Would someone please rewrite this section, and soon? -- Lenin and McCarthy | ( Complain here) 21:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
nmv its been taken care of.. Smith Jones 03:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
"The nominee must be at least past the legal driving age"
The legal driving age varies depending on where you live. It also isn't clear whether that means driving with a full license or just a permit. -- 64.119.66.10 03:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah... Probably means "legal driving age of his/her home country/the country they were currently in". Somebody should look into it (not me since I'm constantly being buried in homework). Slartibartfast1992 00:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you're right. I remember from somewhere that the lady who does all the Darwin Awards stuff said something like, "If they're old enough to pump gas, they're old enough to know not to set it on fire." (and so only those old enough to legally fill up their own car with gas are eligible for a Darwin Award). -- 70.112.223.245 18:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
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I read the disputation regarding the image. It seems ridiculous (to me) to claim that the Darwin Awards have little to do with evolution, when they are called DARWIN Awards to highlight their connection with evolution. The logo that is currently being used is A-OK with me, but might I suggest this cute image instead which actually illustrates a Darwin Moment?
Wendy Wendy 17:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I removed this because it is phrased in such a way that it implies that the award was actually given in 1863. I don't know if this is or is not the earliest dated award. I can't see why it should be unless there is some rule that the award has to post date the publication of the Origin of Species:
[Awards" have been given]... as early as 1863 [1]
If this is the earliest dated award perhaps it can be readded with an explanation. Paul B ( talk) 14:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
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Can someone please replace that awful cartoon with a decent picture of the great man? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jive Dadson ( talk • contribs). 02:02, 20 November 2006
Keep it. It fits the article. Besides, it darwin is your hero, do you really want him associated with a guy who cut off his own head? stargate70 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.86.101.209 ( talk • contribs). 01:13, 21 December 2006
Way to try and flame someone stargate70. Charles Darwin did not cut his own head off, he died from old age/disease.
People I know have been going on and on about a man who was taking care of a constipated elephant. He fed the elephant some whole grains, and was looking up the elephant's rear to see how things were "coming along." At the moment he was looking, the elephant chose that moment to empty its intestines on the man. So the man suffocated.
I'm not actually sure if it's actually true and won the Darwin Award, but it's an interesting point. 74.116.6.73 03:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
this article does not exist just to push wendy's books and website... if you are going to throw her info in you should really add some other sites as well to the info paragraphs to be partial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.178.18.85 ( talk) 20:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
It is improper not to mention the books (hundreds of stories) so I have added them back. Nearly all the Darwin Awards were written by Wendy Northcutt, except the Urban Legends and a few early ones. The title was licensed to the movie. So if you're going to include the movie, which is not yet released and incidentally does beyond-the-pale things like make "darwin awards" out of incidents that harm innocent bystanders, you need also include the books, which came first, and are more comprehensive. Thank you. Wendy Wendy 07:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
There's way too much informaiton about hte movie. I am not REMOVING information from the Wiki; I am redirecting interested parties to thte movie section, which is better-maintained. Thank you! Thanks for reading this discussion. 69.181.208.148 01:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
"trying to get enough light to look down a gun barrel using a cigarette lighter (USA, 1996)" Whoever wrote this is apparently unfamiliar with how guns work. Plus the sentence is unclear. Using a lighter to illuminate the barrel of an unloaded gun is not at all dangerous. There's nothing in an unloaded gun that is flamable. Do people think that guns work by spraying gasoline around or something? A gun is just a lump of iron and wood, and even setting a gun on fire will not cause anything especially unsafe to happen.
Secondly, getting a lit flame near a loaded gun is not in itself dangerous. Ammunition is sealed in brass cartridges which are for our purposes air and water tight. Exposing these cartridges to open flame will not neccessarily cause anything to happen. Besides, this is all negated by the fact that you CAN'T illuminate the barrel of a loaded gun, because in order to do so you need to apply a source of light to one end of the barrel, and peer through the other. You can't do this in a loaded weapon, because by being loaded, one end of the barrel is plugged by the cartridge.
Looking down the barrel of a loaded weapon is, of course, stupid, but the sentence doesn't mention that it's loaded. Sportsmen look down the barrel of unloaded weapons all the time. It's how you check to see that the barrel is clean. So what is the sentence implying? That it's stupid or suicidal to get a lit flame near a gun? But that isn't true. Is it trying to say that looking down the barrel of a gun is stupid or suicidal? But that's not neccessarily true. This article is stupid. I rest my case, your honor.
The Darwin_ape picture might fit on the evolution page, but it seems very out of place here, considering the darwin awards have barely anything to do with evolution or darwin. Seems like something from jackass, or maybe the darwin awards logo would be better...-- feb talk 22:25, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Feba, I can understand why you feel uneasy about the picture.
Greg, those are arguments in favor of a picture of Darwin (see e.g. the main page of the Darwin Awards site), not in favor of a satirical sketch of him. I tried to replace the sketch with a neutral (as opposed to negative) picture that might be supported by more editors and at least would make you lighten up... Yet you removed it without discussion although it looks like you're the only editor here who wants to keep it. I for one do not see the reason for satirizing Darwin here. To me it looks like a creationist article. And please stop using anti-vandalism tools to revert edits you dispute. See [1]. AvB ÷ talk 16:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
This would be entertaining if it wasn't so pathetic. Feb has come up with multiple theories -- that the satirical picture implies creationism (hint: as an astronomer from the Southern US, I hate creationism far more than you do), that the Darwin Awards have nothing to do with Darwin and Evolution (even though the books are filled with science essays discussing the issue), and that only I oppose changing the picture (when there's a 2nd opposer quoted at the top of the page... and you should ask Smith Jones what he thinks)... Well, feb, I'm glad to see that Wikipedia gives you the power to implement those things about which there is "really no argument". Geez. Greg 20:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Feb, you're adding more good arguments but you really don't have to. As it stands, just about any picture will do except the Darwin Ape one since it's currently being disputed by two editors and defended by one editor who clearly doesn't even want to consider a compromise. Once again, if Greg really wants that picture in the article, his only option is to follow WP:DR. Instead, he's trying to wind people up, using as a weapon his perceived superiority at just about everything from sense of humor to IQ to academic achievements. AvB ÷ talk 08:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
oh okay but why is it deffault to assume no connection? i mean it has his name on it and his family woudl at lest make a statement even if they couldt control the name because the dawrin awards is very famous and notable and uses their last name. why??? Smith Jones 16:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
fine well leave it off Smith Jones 00:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Since you seem to view each other's talk page edits as trolling, how about WP:NOFEEDING? I'm now going back to do exactly that. AvB ÷ talk 12:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
"Descriptions below are taken directly from the Darwin awards website."
Sounds like a blantant copyright vilation to me. Would someone please rewrite this section, and soon? -- Lenin and McCarthy | ( Complain here) 21:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
nmv its been taken care of.. Smith Jones 03:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
"The nominee must be at least past the legal driving age"
The legal driving age varies depending on where you live. It also isn't clear whether that means driving with a full license or just a permit. -- 64.119.66.10 03:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah... Probably means "legal driving age of his/her home country/the country they were currently in". Somebody should look into it (not me since I'm constantly being buried in homework). Slartibartfast1992 00:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure you're right. I remember from somewhere that the lady who does all the Darwin Awards stuff said something like, "If they're old enough to pump gas, they're old enough to know not to set it on fire." (and so only those old enough to legally fill up their own car with gas are eligible for a Darwin Award). -- 70.112.223.245 18:20, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
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I read the disputation regarding the image. It seems ridiculous (to me) to claim that the Darwin Awards have little to do with evolution, when they are called DARWIN Awards to highlight their connection with evolution. The logo that is currently being used is A-OK with me, but might I suggest this cute image instead which actually illustrates a Darwin Moment?
Wendy Wendy 17:05, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I removed this because it is phrased in such a way that it implies that the award was actually given in 1863. I don't know if this is or is not the earliest dated award. I can't see why it should be unless there is some rule that the award has to post date the publication of the Origin of Species:
[Awards" have been given]... as early as 1863 [1]
If this is the earliest dated award perhaps it can be readded with an explanation. Paul B ( talk) 14:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)