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I will be copyediting this article, provided that you are available in case I need clarification or have questions. I look forward to working with you! -- Malachirality ( talk) 02:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Are there any over-arching concerns or prose issues that you would like to see addressed? I'm reading over the lead and first section, and while there are some minor issues (too many parentheses IMO), the style and "voice" of the prose seems more or less good. Were there are specific problems/concerns regarding the text that were brought up in FAC/peer review/etc.? -- Malachirality ( talk) 21:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I think I need clarification on DMS and DHMC. This could help the article.
DMS is not DHMC. There's a Dean of DMS (S.Spielberg). There's a separate President of Dartmouth Hitchcock Clinic and a President of Mary Hitchcock Hospital.
DHMC may not be a legal entity. See http://www.dhmc.org/webpage.cfm?site_id=2&org_id=566&gsec_id=0&sec_id=0&item_id=30016 The fact that the VA is listed suggests this as the VA is owned by the US Government. There is a separate President of Mary Hitchcock Hospital and a President of Dartmouth Hitchcock Clinic.
DMS is this http://www.dhmc.org/webpage.cfm?site_id=2&org_id=566&morg_id=0&sec_id=0&gsec_id=39&item_id=41399
I think there is some overlap. The Chairman of the Department of Surgery of Dartmouth is one and the same Chairman of the hospital surgery department.(need confirmation, difficult because the medical school website surgery department link is the hospital surgery website - see http://dms.dartmouth.edu/about/academics/ ) Congolese fufu ( talk) 04:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Understanding the situation is important to write the article. I think medical students do their first 2 years at the medical school then do rotations at DHMC. Faculty members who are M.D.'s are both DMS/DHMC. Some Ph.D. faculty members are DMS only. So the programs are mixed into both DMS and DHMC but the WP article is DMS only. This is becoming clear but citations search continues (and is necesary for the article.) Congolese fufu ( talk) 04:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
A little research, not quite original research needed? Are some of the faculty well known? Perhaps we should look at the department websites to see if any faculty are well known. Sometimes the chairman is. Sometimes another professor is. Then we can use non-Dartmouth websites to confirm this.
I would like to make this article so good that nobody will object on content grounds and then only will object on technicalities that can be fixed. Congolese fufu ( talk) 02:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
How was the choice of notable alumni chosen? I don't know Dartmouth but I would be afraid that the list of alumni are not notable or that some notable people are left out.
What we may have here is a list of alumni that have Wikipedia article and, by inference, are notable by Wikipedia criteria, which is not the same thing as truly notable and famous.
It seems to be easier to research and fix the notable faculty but the alumni is a tough question and problem to fix. I will be thinking about the answer. Congolese fufu ( talk) 02:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
This article easily passes GA. Good work. I only changed a few minor things as I read over it. Wrad ( talk) 02:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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Dana Hall has been renamed Anonymous Hall [sic] and is no longer associated with Dartmouth Medical School. Therefore I deleted a clause that cited both it and a lawn, the latter of which struck me as an irrelevant detail. (Crissccrossed with concrete sidewalks, the lawn is nothing like a typical college quadrangle or green.) As collateral damage, references to Remsen and Vail went with the clause. Perhaps they should come back. Mdmi ( talk) 01:39, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Statistics for the school are outdated, citing numbers from 2007 and 2013. History section stops at 2012. Uncited passages are also present throughout the article. Z1720 ( talk) 02:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi,
I will be copyediting this article, provided that you are available in case I need clarification or have questions. I look forward to working with you! -- Malachirality ( talk) 02:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Are there any over-arching concerns or prose issues that you would like to see addressed? I'm reading over the lead and first section, and while there are some minor issues (too many parentheses IMO), the style and "voice" of the prose seems more or less good. Were there are specific problems/concerns regarding the text that were brought up in FAC/peer review/etc.? -- Malachirality ( talk) 21:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I think I need clarification on DMS and DHMC. This could help the article.
DMS is not DHMC. There's a Dean of DMS (S.Spielberg). There's a separate President of Dartmouth Hitchcock Clinic and a President of Mary Hitchcock Hospital.
DHMC may not be a legal entity. See http://www.dhmc.org/webpage.cfm?site_id=2&org_id=566&gsec_id=0&sec_id=0&item_id=30016 The fact that the VA is listed suggests this as the VA is owned by the US Government. There is a separate President of Mary Hitchcock Hospital and a President of Dartmouth Hitchcock Clinic.
DMS is this http://www.dhmc.org/webpage.cfm?site_id=2&org_id=566&morg_id=0&sec_id=0&gsec_id=39&item_id=41399
I think there is some overlap. The Chairman of the Department of Surgery of Dartmouth is one and the same Chairman of the hospital surgery department.(need confirmation, difficult because the medical school website surgery department link is the hospital surgery website - see http://dms.dartmouth.edu/about/academics/ ) Congolese fufu ( talk) 04:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Understanding the situation is important to write the article. I think medical students do their first 2 years at the medical school then do rotations at DHMC. Faculty members who are M.D.'s are both DMS/DHMC. Some Ph.D. faculty members are DMS only. So the programs are mixed into both DMS and DHMC but the WP article is DMS only. This is becoming clear but citations search continues (and is necesary for the article.) Congolese fufu ( talk) 04:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
A little research, not quite original research needed? Are some of the faculty well known? Perhaps we should look at the department websites to see if any faculty are well known. Sometimes the chairman is. Sometimes another professor is. Then we can use non-Dartmouth websites to confirm this.
I would like to make this article so good that nobody will object on content grounds and then only will object on technicalities that can be fixed. Congolese fufu ( talk) 02:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
How was the choice of notable alumni chosen? I don't know Dartmouth but I would be afraid that the list of alumni are not notable or that some notable people are left out.
What we may have here is a list of alumni that have Wikipedia article and, by inference, are notable by Wikipedia criteria, which is not the same thing as truly notable and famous.
It seems to be easier to research and fix the notable faculty but the alumni is a tough question and problem to fix. I will be thinking about the answer. Congolese fufu ( talk) 02:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
This article easily passes GA. Good work. I only changed a few minor things as I read over it. Wrad ( talk) 02:26, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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