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I found the single art for "Dark Horse" from this Brazilian website and it does not state anywhere that it is fan-made (I know because I'm Brazilian myself) [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.205.72 ( talk) 19:07, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
One does not need to list/mention the song's genres twice in a song article. Simply mentioning them in the "composition" section is sufficient. XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 17:41, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
All right, folks, Massively Simplified Genre Rundowns 101: Grime is a British hip-hop genre that is, while not "niche" exactly, pretty UK-centric and not the subject of a major US crossover. Trap is, especially in the past year or so when "trap" stopped meaning Southern rap and started meaning electro dudes (think "Harlem Shake"), and given that Katy Perry's schtick in general and on Prism is the pop schtick of enveloping genres that just hit critical mass into pop songs, it's pretty clear that combining trap with pop is the entire point of the song. (Plus the video: Memphis, Tennessee! Except as a high-concept pop thing! It's not subtle at all.)
So anyway, there's a comment saying there are multiple reliable secondary sources for all the genres, but there really aren't any that suggest grime has anything whatsoever to do with this song (which makes sense, because it doesn't, this is common sense). I found exactly two: [ offhand reference in Jezebel], which isn't a music criticism site, was in a blurb that was probably written in like 5 minutes (that isn't a slam on Jezebel, just the nature of Gawker's paragraph-long external-link blurbs) and which is mostly about a Vin Diesel gif; and this [ really fascinating] piece in Dazed Digital whose only mention of "grime" comes from an offhand reference to a "post-grime" artist (as anyone who reads music reviews knows, post-X can mean basically anything) whose song was released at more or less the exact same time as Prism, meaning there couldn't have been any influence even if you want to suggest Katy Perry or Dr. Luke or whoever is really up on the XLR8R producer beat. And then the article goes on to say that "Dark Horse" is "a great pop song that happens to draw from trap music" and go into great detail on that.
If anyone has literally any other sources on the grime thing, please do share them, because I'm not convinced they exist outside taking things out of context. (Inside taking things out of context, it's too dark to see?) Katherineonwiki ( talk) 14:50, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Katy Perry rides her 'Dark Horse' to music history
Fireworks and Dark Horse are diamond now
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This article does not mention the one eyed symbols, the ancient Egyptian deities and the symbolism of this video clip. Where are the bacground theories about this clip? There are some videos showing some conteo contents in connections with this video. Maybe conteo is just a way of thinking, but maybe it deserves some sentences. I know it is not scientific view but the symbolism of this clip should be mentioned.-- Porbóllett ( talk) 21:00, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I am just joke. I watched a conteo video on the internet and that makes me to ask these questions. I know that the Eye of Horus is an ancient symbol and it can not be disambiguated with the Eye of Providence which originates from the christian times.-- Porbóllett ( talk) 07:42, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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I changed the peak of Spain because Dark Horse peaked in 9, no 4. The reference is the same since the source provided already stated that her peak was 9, the correction was made in order to make the information match the source
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I found the single art for "Dark Horse" from this Brazilian website and it does not state anywhere that it is fan-made (I know because I'm Brazilian myself) [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.13.205.72 ( talk) 19:07, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
One does not need to list/mention the song's genres twice in a song article. Simply mentioning them in the "composition" section is sufficient. XXSNUGGUMSXX ( talk) 17:41, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
All right, folks, Massively Simplified Genre Rundowns 101: Grime is a British hip-hop genre that is, while not "niche" exactly, pretty UK-centric and not the subject of a major US crossover. Trap is, especially in the past year or so when "trap" stopped meaning Southern rap and started meaning electro dudes (think "Harlem Shake"), and given that Katy Perry's schtick in general and on Prism is the pop schtick of enveloping genres that just hit critical mass into pop songs, it's pretty clear that combining trap with pop is the entire point of the song. (Plus the video: Memphis, Tennessee! Except as a high-concept pop thing! It's not subtle at all.)
So anyway, there's a comment saying there are multiple reliable secondary sources for all the genres, but there really aren't any that suggest grime has anything whatsoever to do with this song (which makes sense, because it doesn't, this is common sense). I found exactly two: [ offhand reference in Jezebel], which isn't a music criticism site, was in a blurb that was probably written in like 5 minutes (that isn't a slam on Jezebel, just the nature of Gawker's paragraph-long external-link blurbs) and which is mostly about a Vin Diesel gif; and this [ really fascinating] piece in Dazed Digital whose only mention of "grime" comes from an offhand reference to a "post-grime" artist (as anyone who reads music reviews knows, post-X can mean basically anything) whose song was released at more or less the exact same time as Prism, meaning there couldn't have been any influence even if you want to suggest Katy Perry or Dr. Luke or whoever is really up on the XLR8R producer beat. And then the article goes on to say that "Dark Horse" is "a great pop song that happens to draw from trap music" and go into great detail on that.
If anyone has literally any other sources on the grime thing, please do share them, because I'm not convinced they exist outside taking things out of context. (Inside taking things out of context, it's too dark to see?) Katherineonwiki ( talk) 14:50, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
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Fireworks and Dark Horse are diamond now
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 15:51, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
This article does not mention the one eyed symbols, the ancient Egyptian deities and the symbolism of this video clip. Where are the bacground theories about this clip? There are some videos showing some conteo contents in connections with this video. Maybe conteo is just a way of thinking, but maybe it deserves some sentences. I know it is not scientific view but the symbolism of this clip should be mentioned.-- Porbóllett ( talk) 21:00, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I am just joke. I watched a conteo video on the internet and that makes me to ask these questions. I know that the Eye of Horus is an ancient symbol and it can not be disambiguated with the Eye of Providence which originates from the christian times.-- Porbóllett ( talk) 07:42, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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I changed the peak of Spain because Dark Horse peaked in 9, no 4. The reference is the same since the source provided already stated that her peak was 9, the correction was made in order to make the information match the source