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Definitely some confusion on this list, as compared with the linked rulers' pages [ [1]] and [ [2]] and [ [3]] and what Britannica says. It isn't clear whether one person ruled from 1084-1134 or two: Gazi Gümüshtigin and Emir Gazi. See https://www.britannica.com/topic/Danishmend-dynasty. Hopefully someone can clear this up! Further info added: A good source is here: https://archive.org/details/danishmendids-ei/page/n1/mode/1up . The confusion on the list appears to be that the first two rulers are in fact the same person (as stated on /info/en/?search=Danishmend_Gazi Danishmend Gazi was also known as Gümüshtigin), and Danishmend Gazi's death date is incorrect. The list should be: Danishmend Gazi: 1075-1104 Emir Gazi: 1104-1134 Melik Mehmed Gazi: 1134-1142
The Gazi Gümüshtigin page is confused, perhaps based on the Turkish TV series the editor cited, Diriliş:_Ertuğrul. It should probably just be deleted. (I will try to do some of these edits but I'm not handy with editing Wikipedia, as you can probably tell!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.16.134.46 ( talk) 22:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
What is beginning date of Danishmend Gazi's reign? 1071 (as written in the infobox) or 1097 (as written in the dynasty timeline ? Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 16:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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@ Georgiano: The source you usedfor the Georgian claim is outdated. Furthermore, you didn't add a page number. The vast majority of WP:RS sources consider the Danishmends to be Turkomans/Oghuz Turks.
Do you have any RS sources that prove a Georgian origin? Best, - LouisAragon ( talk) 18:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. The only evidence presented over the two weeks supported the move. Dekimasu よ! 19:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Danishmends → Danishmendids – Jstor search: "Danishmends" gets 17 hits, "Danishmendids" gets 50. The suffix "-ids" is more appropriate, as it more clearly implies an actual dynasty (cf. other Anatolian Beyliks/Turkmen Beyliks: Artuqids, Saltukids, etc.). Especially as the word "Danishmend/Daneshmand" is a noun with a different meaning, and can easily be confused with "Danishmends". "Danishmendids" is used by numerous high-quality sources, including the Encyclopedia of Islam [4] and Islamic Desk Reference. [5] - LouisAragon ( talk) 19:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Definitely some confusion on this list, as compared with the linked rulers' pages [ [1]] and [ [2]] and [ [3]] and what Britannica says. It isn't clear whether one person ruled from 1084-1134 or two: Gazi Gümüshtigin and Emir Gazi. See https://www.britannica.com/topic/Danishmend-dynasty. Hopefully someone can clear this up! Further info added: A good source is here: https://archive.org/details/danishmendids-ei/page/n1/mode/1up . The confusion on the list appears to be that the first two rulers are in fact the same person (as stated on /info/en/?search=Danishmend_Gazi Danishmend Gazi was also known as Gümüshtigin), and Danishmend Gazi's death date is incorrect. The list should be: Danishmend Gazi: 1075-1104 Emir Gazi: 1104-1134 Melik Mehmed Gazi: 1134-1142
The Gazi Gümüshtigin page is confused, perhaps based on the Turkish TV series the editor cited, Diriliş:_Ertuğrul. It should probably just be deleted. (I will try to do some of these edits but I'm not handy with editing Wikipedia, as you can probably tell!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.16.134.46 ( talk) 22:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
What is beginning date of Danishmend Gazi's reign? 1071 (as written in the infobox) or 1097 (as written in the dynasty timeline ? Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 16:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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@ Georgiano: The source you usedfor the Georgian claim is outdated. Furthermore, you didn't add a page number. The vast majority of WP:RS sources consider the Danishmends to be Turkomans/Oghuz Turks.
Do you have any RS sources that prove a Georgian origin? Best, - LouisAragon ( talk) 18:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. The only evidence presented over the two weeks supported the move. Dekimasu よ! 19:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Danishmends → Danishmendids – Jstor search: "Danishmends" gets 17 hits, "Danishmendids" gets 50. The suffix "-ids" is more appropriate, as it more clearly implies an actual dynasty (cf. other Anatolian Beyliks/Turkmen Beyliks: Artuqids, Saltukids, etc.). Especially as the word "Danishmend/Daneshmand" is a noun with a different meaning, and can easily be confused with "Danishmends". "Danishmendids" is used by numerous high-quality sources, including the Encyclopedia of Islam [4] and Islamic Desk Reference. [5] - LouisAragon ( talk) 19:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)