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The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
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Danilo Pereira –
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. There is no one else with the exact common name Danilo Pereira anyways, so Danilo Pereira (footballer) can be moved to Danilo Pereira, and Danilo Pereira can be changed to Danilo Pereira (disambiguation).
Paul Vaurie (
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Support per nom. Pretty clear cut.
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GiantSnowman 16:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Actually, never mind about the Danilo Pereira da Silva thing, a weird redirect confused me. There is a footballer called Danilo Pereira da Silva (born 1999), but their common name is Danilo, so my point on PRIMARYTOPIC still stands.
Paul Vaurie (
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There are multiple people listed at the
Danilo Pereira dab page. Saying this person is the only one is factually incorrect; saying he is the PRIMARYTOPIC is a wiser argument, although I don't think he is.
GiantSnowman 15:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Even if there was evidence that the other subjects are with any regularity referred to as Danilo Pereira in reliable sources (which I would welcome, but am struggling to find!), there still appears to be a primary topic. Is there any reason, besides other pages existing, that we would not make the subject that meets our primary topic guidelines the primary topic?--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:43, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.--
Ortizesp (
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When someone says Danilo Pereira, they are referring to this player and not any of the other ones.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 01:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Is there any evidence that any of the other players are ever referred to as "Danilo Pereira" in reliable sources? While it's certainly reasonable to have them in the DAB page, if this is the only topic that is called "Danilo Pereira" then it is a clear primary topic and the intended target of readers. We should not be adding a bureaucratic process that intentionally directs readers away from the page we know they intend to find. If there is evidence, that if course changes things.-
Yaksar(let's chat) 18:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Generally we do fully disambiguate if there are other people with the same name, even if the name they commonly use is different. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 10:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Sure, as long as there is evidence the name in question is at least sometimes a common one for them. The existence of alternate pages alone is obviously not a reason for no primary topic, otherwise we wouldn't need the concept at all! If they are pretty much never referred to by the name in question, and usage of the name is overwhelmingly clearly meant for one subject, then there is an overwhelmingly clear primary topic. To do otherwise is to intentionally inhibit reader navigation despite clear information of what they are looking for. This appears to be the case here, but I'm still looking around.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 14:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think anyone is questioning that, or if it makes sense to include them on the dab page. I'd still like to see if there are sources that regularly call them Danilo Pereira. Even if there are, however, the existence of other topics alone is not a reason for no primary topic if we have evidence that one topic is the overwhelmingly clear intended target of readers.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support There appears to be a clear primary topic. The subject in question dominates in usage. Oppose !votes have failed to demonstrate evidence that a) the other subjects in question are commonly called "Danilo Pereira," or B) even if they are, that the subject in question still is not the primary. The existence of other topics alone is not a reason not to have a primary topic -- otherwise we wouldn't need the concept of a primary topic at all. We seem to have a clear case where readers searching for Danilo Pereira intend to end up at this page, and we should not put up procedural hurdles to that without an actual case behind it.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - per Yaksar above, and the nom statement, this article is a clear primary topic for the "Danilo Pereira" name. The only main argument used by the "oppose" !votes is that the footballer
Danilo (footballer, born 1999) has the full name "Danilo Pereira da Silva". But since there is zero evidence presented that he is ever known by the name "Danilo Pereira", those "opposes" should be rejected as meritless. CHeers —
Amakuru (
talk) 15:30, 24 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support and delete the disambiguation. From what I see, he's the only one who's commonly referred to as "Danilo Pereira", so he's a clear
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I don't precisely see the point of the disambiguation either, as all other subjects are just partial matches. They have "Danilo" and "Pereira" in their full names, but that's not a valid basis for having a disambiguation, which should be deleted per
WP:PARTIAL.
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Find correct name
The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
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Paul Vaurie (
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Support per nom. Pretty clear cut.
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GiantSnowman 16:44, 9 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Actually, never mind about the Danilo Pereira da Silva thing, a weird redirect confused me. There is a footballer called Danilo Pereira da Silva (born 1999), but their common name is Danilo, so my point on PRIMARYTOPIC still stands.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 05:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)reply
There are multiple people listed at the
Danilo Pereira dab page. Saying this person is the only one is factually incorrect; saying he is the PRIMARYTOPIC is a wiser argument, although I don't think he is.
GiantSnowman 15:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Even if there was evidence that the other subjects are with any regularity referred to as Danilo Pereira in reliable sources (which I would welcome, but am struggling to find!), there still appears to be a primary topic. Is there any reason, besides other pages existing, that we would not make the subject that meets our primary topic guidelines the primary topic?--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:43, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support per nom.--
Ortizesp (
talk) 23:39, 9 January 2022 (UTC)reply
When someone says Danilo Pereira, they are referring to this player and not any of the other ones.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 01:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Is there any evidence that any of the other players are ever referred to as "Danilo Pereira" in reliable sources? While it's certainly reasonable to have them in the DAB page, if this is the only topic that is called "Danilo Pereira" then it is a clear primary topic and the intended target of readers. We should not be adding a bureaucratic process that intentionally directs readers away from the page we know they intend to find. If there is evidence, that if course changes things.-
Yaksar(let's chat) 18:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Generally we do fully disambiguate if there are other people with the same name, even if the name they commonly use is different. --
Necrothesp (
talk) 10:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Sure, as long as there is evidence the name in question is at least sometimes a common one for them. The existence of alternate pages alone is obviously not a reason for no primary topic, otherwise we wouldn't need the concept at all! If they are pretty much never referred to by the name in question, and usage of the name is overwhelmingly clearly meant for one subject, then there is an overwhelmingly clear primary topic. To do otherwise is to intentionally inhibit reader navigation despite clear information of what they are looking for. This appears to be the case here, but I'm still looking around.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 14:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't think anyone is questioning that, or if it makes sense to include them on the dab page. I'd still like to see if there are sources that regularly call them Danilo Pereira. Even if there are, however, the existence of other topics alone is not a reason for no primary topic if we have evidence that one topic is the overwhelmingly clear intended target of readers.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:32, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Strong support There appears to be a clear primary topic. The subject in question dominates in usage. Oppose !votes have failed to demonstrate evidence that a) the other subjects in question are commonly called "Danilo Pereira," or B) even if they are, that the subject in question still is not the primary. The existence of other topics alone is not a reason not to have a primary topic -- otherwise we wouldn't need the concept of a primary topic at all. We seem to have a clear case where readers searching for Danilo Pereira intend to end up at this page, and we should not put up procedural hurdles to that without an actual case behind it.--
Yaksar(let's chat) 17:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support - per Yaksar above, and the nom statement, this article is a clear primary topic for the "Danilo Pereira" name. The only main argument used by the "oppose" !votes is that the footballer
Danilo (footballer, born 1999) has the full name "Danilo Pereira da Silva". But since there is zero evidence presented that he is ever known by the name "Danilo Pereira", those "opposes" should be rejected as meritless. CHeers —
Amakuru (
talk) 15:30, 24 January 2022 (UTC)reply
Support and delete the disambiguation. From what I see, he's the only one who's commonly referred to as "Danilo Pereira", so he's a clear
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I don't precisely see the point of the disambiguation either, as all other subjects are just partial matches. They have "Danilo" and "Pereira" in their full names, but that's not a valid basis for having a disambiguation, which should be deleted per
WP:PARTIAL.
Jovanmilic97 (
talk) 19:47, 1 February 2022 (UTC)reply
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