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Under the entry for Horus Heresy, it says its a spinoff of the Horus Heresy trading card game. It is not affiliated with that card game except that both the card game and the book are based on the event of the Horus Heresy in the warhammer 40k universe. Don't know how to edit it...
Would it be possible (and fair) to trim this section down. Including only the "top" 5 or so works in each area? Jasynnash2 ( talk) 08:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
anyway to get some rewriting/reformatting done so we can make the biography section more like a biography? You know with like born here, went to this school, got his big break here, etc. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
maybe we should consolidate it into one section and use the inline citations? Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it may be a case of my understanding of "references" really and I openly admit I'm not the most experienced. I just think we should have 1 reference section which would for instance be formatted in the {{reflist}} format thereby incorporating the inline citations used within an article. "notes" and "references" are basically the same thing as far as I can tell but the "references" section at the moment doesn't show what is referenced from where (if that makes any sense). Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I take exception to this wording, as it implies that the fiction Mr. D. Abnett has produced prior to his Angry Robot is not original, thus somehow less noteworthy, of less literary worth and not the product of his own mind. His work for the Black Library and others have on occasion been nothing short of revolutionary and ground-breaking in its scope and vision, staying true to the concept of a shared unreal world while immensely furthering the boundaries and immersion of those worlds. Mainstream literary criticism may hold the worlds of comics, science fiction, gaming as somehow the dirty low-brow underside of fiction writing, but for a writer with multiple titles on the NY Times Bestseller list, can we please get over this? Thank you. Pär Larsson ( talk) 01:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
JackStonePGD ( talk) 02:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The St Edmund Hall website lists Dan Abnett as being in the class of 1984. At Oxford, the 'year' of an alumnus is the year they matriculated (commenced their studies), not the year they graduated. Please correct the article, either to say that he graduated in 1987 (Oxford BA degrees take 3 years) or that he went up to Oxford in 1984. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 22:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Sure. Do you mean we need a source for the date? There is already a source referenced in the article. If you mean you need a source for the fact that Oxford 'years' are matriculation years - you could look at https://www.alumniweb.ox.ac.uk, or refer to Foster, Joseph: Alumni oxonienses, University of Oxford. Bear in mind that there is currently no source given for the assertion that 1984 is a graduation date, which suggests that the author may have made a (culturally relative) assumption. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 02:04, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
PS I don't know if this counts as a source, but Dan Abnett's LinkedIn profile lists his years at Oxford as being 1984-1987. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 03:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry : LinkedIn: [1] The source for the year is already in the article - it's reference 3, which points to Dan Abnett's page on the St Edmund Hall website. The website simply refers to Dan Abnett (1984), which the author of the article clearly took to mean his year of graduation, assuming that Oxford acts in the same way as a US university would, but with no source to establish that this is correct (Would this be WP:NPV?). I think if I follow you correctly, you're saying that we either need to find a robust source that unambiguously defines the date and what it means, or take out the entire sentence in the article (and presumably therefore the entire 'early life' section). Is that correct? PS As you've probably spotted, this is my very first attempt to edit wikipedia. I had no idea it was so complicated! 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 16:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Boolean
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Under the entry for Horus Heresy, it says its a spinoff of the Horus Heresy trading card game. It is not affiliated with that card game except that both the card game and the book are based on the event of the Horus Heresy in the warhammer 40k universe. Don't know how to edit it...
Would it be possible (and fair) to trim this section down. Including only the "top" 5 or so works in each area? Jasynnash2 ( talk) 08:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
anyway to get some rewriting/reformatting done so we can make the biography section more like a biography? You know with like born here, went to this school, got his big break here, etc. Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
maybe we should consolidate it into one section and use the inline citations? Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it may be a case of my understanding of "references" really and I openly admit I'm not the most experienced. I just think we should have 1 reference section which would for instance be formatted in the {{reflist}} format thereby incorporating the inline citations used within an article. "notes" and "references" are basically the same thing as far as I can tell but the "references" section at the moment doesn't show what is referenced from where (if that makes any sense). Jasynnash2 ( talk) 15:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
I take exception to this wording, as it implies that the fiction Mr. D. Abnett has produced prior to his Angry Robot is not original, thus somehow less noteworthy, of less literary worth and not the product of his own mind. His work for the Black Library and others have on occasion been nothing short of revolutionary and ground-breaking in its scope and vision, staying true to the concept of a shared unreal world while immensely furthering the boundaries and immersion of those worlds. Mainstream literary criticism may hold the worlds of comics, science fiction, gaming as somehow the dirty low-brow underside of fiction writing, but for a writer with multiple titles on the NY Times Bestseller list, can we please get over this? Thank you. Pär Larsson ( talk) 01:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
JackStonePGD ( talk) 02:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
The St Edmund Hall website lists Dan Abnett as being in the class of 1984. At Oxford, the 'year' of an alumnus is the year they matriculated (commenced their studies), not the year they graduated. Please correct the article, either to say that he graduated in 1987 (Oxford BA degrees take 3 years) or that he went up to Oxford in 1984. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 22:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Sure. Do you mean we need a source for the date? There is already a source referenced in the article. If you mean you need a source for the fact that Oxford 'years' are matriculation years - you could look at https://www.alumniweb.ox.ac.uk, or refer to Foster, Joseph: Alumni oxonienses, University of Oxford. Bear in mind that there is currently no source given for the assertion that 1984 is a graduation date, which suggests that the author may have made a (culturally relative) assumption. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 02:04, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
PS I don't know if this counts as a source, but Dan Abnett's LinkedIn profile lists his years at Oxford as being 1984-1987. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 03:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry : LinkedIn: [1] The source for the year is already in the article - it's reference 3, which points to Dan Abnett's page on the St Edmund Hall website. The website simply refers to Dan Abnett (1984), which the author of the article clearly took to mean his year of graduation, assuming that Oxford acts in the same way as a US university would, but with no source to establish that this is correct (Would this be WP:NPV?). I think if I follow you correctly, you're saying that we either need to find a robust source that unambiguously defines the date and what it means, or take out the entire sentence in the article (and presumably therefore the entire 'early life' section). Is that correct? PS As you've probably spotted, this is my very first attempt to edit wikipedia. I had no idea it was so complicated! 24.247.83.9 ( talk) 16:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC) Boolean
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