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This is a WP:BLP1E and probably did not need to be spun off from Murder of Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone. It would be better to have a "Perpetrator" section in that article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
All of the claims for how Cregan lost his left eye are anecdotal. The Daily Mail is not a reliable source on this issue.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
It is still not clear why he gave himself up voluntarily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.124.102 ( talk) 12:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Since the term has crept back into the article I'm going to raise this issue again. I know the Daily Mail have decided to use it, but describing Cregan as a serial killer is not an accurate use of the term. I imaging there are more than a few people in the criminal underworld who are responsible for three or more deaths, and it's an entirely different set of circumstances. People such as Sam DeStefano are certainly not regarded as serial killers. Sociopath or psychopath are probably closer to the mark, but I'm not going to remove the statement again as I've already done so two or three times, and don't wish to become embroiled in an edit war. We do need some consensus on this issue though. So, it's over to you. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 20:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Re this edit. This comes from a Daily Mirror story which is less than ideal because it cites unnamed sources and does not directly support the claim that he has been moved back to prison in February 2014. The reason given for the move was not that he wanted to smoke, but because he "no longer needs specialist care".-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Cregan is on the front page of The Sun today. The reason is that family members took photographs with him and published them on Instagram. [3] Not sure if this is really notable enough for the article, but the MEN story has some useful information about where Cregan is currently held. The photos were taken at Ashworth hospital, but Cregan is said to have since been moved back to prison.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
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This is a WP:BLP1E and probably did not need to be spun off from Murder of Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone. It would be better to have a "Perpetrator" section in that article.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
All of the claims for how Cregan lost his left eye are anecdotal. The Daily Mail is not a reliable source on this issue.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:59, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
It is still not clear why he gave himself up voluntarily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.149.124.102 ( talk) 12:41, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Since the term has crept back into the article I'm going to raise this issue again. I know the Daily Mail have decided to use it, but describing Cregan as a serial killer is not an accurate use of the term. I imaging there are more than a few people in the criminal underworld who are responsible for three or more deaths, and it's an entirely different set of circumstances. People such as Sam DeStefano are certainly not regarded as serial killers. Sociopath or psychopath are probably closer to the mark, but I'm not going to remove the statement again as I've already done so two or three times, and don't wish to become embroiled in an edit war. We do need some consensus on this issue though. So, it's over to you. Paul MacDermott ( talk) 20:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Re this edit. This comes from a Daily Mirror story which is less than ideal because it cites unnamed sources and does not directly support the claim that he has been moved back to prison in February 2014. The reason given for the move was not that he wanted to smoke, but because he "no longer needs specialist care".-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Cregan is on the front page of The Sun today. The reason is that family members took photographs with him and published them on Instagram. [3] Not sure if this is really notable enough for the article, but the MEN story has some useful information about where Cregan is currently held. The photos were taken at Ashworth hospital, but Cregan is said to have since been moved back to prison.-- ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)