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Is there any neutral source showing armenian origin of the name Dashkesen? Regards, -- Verman1 ( talk) 03:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Any edits using phrase "medieval Dashkesen" must be reverted, because it's a mockery to historical science at all. There is a huge number of photographies of Armenian monasteries and cross stones taken by armenians who lived there before 1988. Most of those was destroyd and being destroyed today. But in some of them seen exact name of Qarhat. Many medieval historians mention name Qarhat, but calling it by Turkic name "Dashkesen" in the middle ages is totally absurd. You can accept works of Mesrop Mashtots - Armenian alphabet creator as neutral source because he lived in 5th century (long before first Turkic nomand steped from Central Asia to Persia). Near Qarhat (today Dashqesan) existed Targmanchats (meaning: Translator's) Armenian monastery, where Mesrop Mashtots for the first time translated Bible from Greek to Armenian. 188.115.218.197 ( talk) 20:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
User Alexius Horatius stop protecting azerbaijani vandalism to the articles concerning to Armenian history, in which you being out of touch. Every time this article will be unprotected, historical facts, so unpleasant to you and another anti-Armenian deletionists, will be placed again and again. Wikipedia's pages must NOT contain lie and slander, insulting the whole nation (where victimes of massacres called as GANGS). You are funny people if you think it will be another way. 178.78.176.175 ( talk) 07:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
This is not propaganda site. Your pushing povs which include hard language is not admitted here. the territory is in Azerbaijan and has always been. Dighapet ( talk) 16:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Your ignorance to historical facts has no limits... just look at your words: the territory is in Azerbaijan and has always been... Dear Dighapet. You and most of Azeri people live in your dreamworld. Untill 1920 this was a northern part of Armenian populated region Artsakh. And this edit of the article is afull of PICKLE. It's out of line with reality. For example:
But Nuremberg trial for Armenian genocide in Azerbaijan is near.
188.115.224.175 ( talk) 10:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Users Maphobbyist and NovaSkola please, stop your vandalism to the issue, you know nothing about. Event.Horizon.000 ( talk) 06:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
This is a talk page of Qarhat/Dashkesan's article, and no need to justify your inability to prove destructiveness or vandalism of my edits to the article.
U can watch everything u need. And Turkish-Armenian edit wars rize users who saying words like destructive and vandalism to justify their own
vandalism.
Event.Horizon.000 (
talk)
18:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
188.115.236.124 (
talk)
Please do not delete the mention about Targmanchats Monastery that it is an Armenian church. I don't see any good reason for that. -- va c io 18:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have presented my explanation in above. Please read them carefully. -- Verman1 ( talk) 06:31, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
In this source [1] there is't any word about "large influx of Armenian population into Daşkəsən, changing its ethnic makeup". Destefur raion was significantly smaller then Dashkesan. 109.173.47.1 ( talk) 14:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
This village has to be considered Azerbaijani village and comments about "Armenian origins" have to be removed from article. Because:
Best, 188.142.246.17 ( talk) 21:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. Per what I said in my RM closure at Talk:Ismayilli, Yes, accents or other diacritics are allowed per WP:DIACRITICS as long as their used in general from reliable English sources or are the common name from verified sources. And contrary to the RM initiator, the opposition has not demonstrated the use of "Daşkəsən" as the common name or presented its use in reliable sources. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 23:05, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Daşkəsən → Dashkasan (city) – Move to "Dashkasan (city)" per WP:UE/ WP:COMMONNAME/ WP:ENGLISH. Proof of anglicized name being the common name:
Results from Google News: Dashkasan: 1,300 Daşkəsən: 5
Results from Google Scholar: Dashkasan: 145 Daşkəsən: 29
Individual reliable sources referring to the city as Dashkasan: RFE/RL, The Guardian, OC Media
This is the same name but an anglicized version. Unlike other small villages, this is a fairly large town, which has made a lot of appearances in English-language media, in most of which, "Dashkasan" has been used much more, establishing its WP:COMMONNAME. I'd also like to ask the closing admin to give more attention to the arguments being made rather than the vote counts, as there are people who go over each RM and repeat unrelated policies as an "Oppose" argument. — CuriousGolden (T· C) 16:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
The use of modified letters (such as accents or other diacritics) in article titles is neither encouraged nor discouraged; when deciding between versions of a word which differ in the use or non-use of modified letters, follow the general usage in reliable sources that are written in the English language (including other encyclopedias and reference works). The policy on using common names and on foreign names does not prohibit the use of modified letters, if they are used in the common name as verified by reliable sources.
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Is there any neutral source showing armenian origin of the name Dashkesen? Regards, -- Verman1 ( talk) 03:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Any edits using phrase "medieval Dashkesen" must be reverted, because it's a mockery to historical science at all. There is a huge number of photographies of Armenian monasteries and cross stones taken by armenians who lived there before 1988. Most of those was destroyd and being destroyed today. But in some of them seen exact name of Qarhat. Many medieval historians mention name Qarhat, but calling it by Turkic name "Dashkesen" in the middle ages is totally absurd. You can accept works of Mesrop Mashtots - Armenian alphabet creator as neutral source because he lived in 5th century (long before first Turkic nomand steped from Central Asia to Persia). Near Qarhat (today Dashqesan) existed Targmanchats (meaning: Translator's) Armenian monastery, where Mesrop Mashtots for the first time translated Bible from Greek to Armenian. 188.115.218.197 ( talk) 20:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
User Alexius Horatius stop protecting azerbaijani vandalism to the articles concerning to Armenian history, in which you being out of touch. Every time this article will be unprotected, historical facts, so unpleasant to you and another anti-Armenian deletionists, will be placed again and again. Wikipedia's pages must NOT contain lie and slander, insulting the whole nation (where victimes of massacres called as GANGS). You are funny people if you think it will be another way. 178.78.176.175 ( talk) 07:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
This is not propaganda site. Your pushing povs which include hard language is not admitted here. the territory is in Azerbaijan and has always been. Dighapet ( talk) 16:07, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Your ignorance to historical facts has no limits... just look at your words: the territory is in Azerbaijan and has always been... Dear Dighapet. You and most of Azeri people live in your dreamworld. Untill 1920 this was a northern part of Armenian populated region Artsakh. And this edit of the article is afull of PICKLE. It's out of line with reality. For example:
But Nuremberg trial for Armenian genocide in Azerbaijan is near.
188.115.224.175 ( talk) 10:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Users Maphobbyist and NovaSkola please, stop your vandalism to the issue, you know nothing about. Event.Horizon.000 ( talk) 06:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
This is a talk page of Qarhat/Dashkesan's article, and no need to justify your inability to prove destructiveness or vandalism of my edits to the article.
U can watch everything u need. And Turkish-Armenian edit wars rize users who saying words like destructive and vandalism to justify their own
vandalism.
Event.Horizon.000 (
talk)
18:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
188.115.236.124 (
talk)
Please do not delete the mention about Targmanchats Monastery that it is an Armenian church. I don't see any good reason for that. -- va c io 18:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I have presented my explanation in above. Please read them carefully. -- Verman1 ( talk) 06:31, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
In this source [1] there is't any word about "large influx of Armenian population into Daşkəsən, changing its ethnic makeup". Destefur raion was significantly smaller then Dashkesan. 109.173.47.1 ( talk) 14:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
This village has to be considered Azerbaijani village and comments about "Armenian origins" have to be removed from article. Because:
Best, 188.142.246.17 ( talk) 21:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Page moved. Per what I said in my RM closure at Talk:Ismayilli, Yes, accents or other diacritics are allowed per WP:DIACRITICS as long as their used in general from reliable English sources or are the common name from verified sources. And contrary to the RM initiator, the opposition has not demonstrated the use of "Daşkəsən" as the common name or presented its use in reliable sources. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm ( talk) 23:05, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Daşkəsən → Dashkasan (city) – Move to "Dashkasan (city)" per WP:UE/ WP:COMMONNAME/ WP:ENGLISH. Proof of anglicized name being the common name:
Results from Google News: Dashkasan: 1,300 Daşkəsən: 5
Results from Google Scholar: Dashkasan: 145 Daşkəsən: 29
Individual reliable sources referring to the city as Dashkasan: RFE/RL, The Guardian, OC Media
This is the same name but an anglicized version. Unlike other small villages, this is a fairly large town, which has made a lot of appearances in English-language media, in most of which, "Dashkasan" has been used much more, establishing its WP:COMMONNAME. I'd also like to ask the closing admin to give more attention to the arguments being made rather than the vote counts, as there are people who go over each RM and repeat unrelated policies as an "Oppose" argument. — CuriousGolden (T· C) 16:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
The use of modified letters (such as accents or other diacritics) in article titles is neither encouraged nor discouraged; when deciding between versions of a word which differ in the use or non-use of modified letters, follow the general usage in reliable sources that are written in the English language (including other encyclopedias and reference works). The policy on using common names and on foreign names does not prohibit the use of modified letters, if they are used in the common name as verified by reliable sources.
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 13:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)