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This page is created because people might deem a RNA codon table to be more appropriate than a DNA codon table in the "Genetic Code" page. However, since a DNA codon table is generally more convenient for people who work with genomic data, then it may be preferred to have this table stored somewhere in wikipedia.
Potentially, this page can be merged to a short reference page for bioinformatics where tables of general amino acid properties are stored. Bobthefish2 ( talk) 20:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of redirecting to genetic code, as suggested in the AfD discussion, since all the relevant information already exists there. -- Radagast 3 ( talk) 09:10, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
The compressed codon for Glutamine is given in the table as CCR, whilst the compressed codon for Proline is CCN. These seem to conflict- I believe the codon for Glutamine should be CAR, not CCR. 94.173.129.198 ( talk) 10:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
side note: By RNA it is mRNA. There are different kinds of RNA (tRNA, mRNA, ect.) Turtleguy1134 Turtleguy1134 ( talk) 17:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Look in any molecular biology text book, and by definition a codon is found in RNA, specifically messenger RNA. A codon is not found in DNA, although an equivalent triplet sequence is found in the coding strand of a polypeptide-encoding gene.
Sorry, but this article just confuses things. I can see no advantage in having a DNA codon table. Anybody with a working knowledge of this topic will know that, for the equivalent of a codon in the coding strand of DNA, all you have to do is replace a U with a T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.121.25 ( talk) 16:50, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Since the start codon is AUG in RNA, wouldn't it be TAC in DNA, not ATG? Bases have to form hydrogen bonds to pair. G doesn't bond with G. Believe it or not, you can't ONLY swap U for T, because U bonds with A and A bonds with T / T bonds with A, while C bonds to G and G bonds to C. Similarly, the end codons in RNA are UAA, UAG, and UGA, which correspond to DNA sequences of ATT, ATC, and ACT. In other words, this table is pretty messed up. The way it currently stands, it says ATG is start when ATG = UAC = Tyrosine. The end codons are also wrong. TAG and TAA translate to AUC and AUU, which code for Isoleucine. TGA = ACU = Threonine. Either I'm going crazy or someone really messed up on this codon chart, probably because they just decided to take the RNA chart and replace U with T. Again, TAC should be start and ATT/ATC/ACT should be stop. (Edit: Apparently I am going crazy and have always been using antisense and making things more difficult for myself) -- User:Zuloo37 07:06, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
"A codon table can be used to translate a genetic code into a sequence of amino acids."
Well, perhaps, but that translation is only appropriate if the "genetic code" is actually for a sequence of amino acids; there are plenty of non-coding sequences. Or was this a subtle piece of wording, so it's only a "code" if it does code for a sequence, as opposed to all the other functions of DNA sequences? If so, it really does need explanation, as that sort of thing would pass by many readers. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 17:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello I want to suggest a 3D version of the RNA to better understand the relationships of the codons. A 3D view of the Genetic Code
How can my suggestion be added without upsetting all editors?
Saludos H2mex ( talk) 01:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
The second image in the introduction (the one showing the DNA double helix) is nice, but it seems incorrect if you look closely. That is, if you follow a single strand it reads GCA ACT CTA AAT TGA rather than GCA AGA GAT AAT TGT. With each turn of the helix, which strand is on top in the image switches. Thus, if someone is looking closely to understand how the codons would be found in DNA, they may get confused. Strongyloides ( talk) 14:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
We had Template:Codon table and Template:Inverse codon table extracted from the article so we could see and update them in a central place. We should get that arrangement back.
Refs will still work if the names are managed correctly. Same for notes. Artoria 2e5 🌉 05:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
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This page is created because people might deem a RNA codon table to be more appropriate than a DNA codon table in the "Genetic Code" page. However, since a DNA codon table is generally more convenient for people who work with genomic data, then it may be preferred to have this table stored somewhere in wikipedia.
Potentially, this page can be merged to a short reference page for bioinformatics where tables of general amino acid properties are stored. Bobthefish2 ( talk) 20:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of redirecting to genetic code, as suggested in the AfD discussion, since all the relevant information already exists there. -- Radagast 3 ( talk) 09:10, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
The compressed codon for Glutamine is given in the table as CCR, whilst the compressed codon for Proline is CCN. These seem to conflict- I believe the codon for Glutamine should be CAR, not CCR. 94.173.129.198 ( talk) 10:30, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
side note: By RNA it is mRNA. There are different kinds of RNA (tRNA, mRNA, ect.) Turtleguy1134 Turtleguy1134 ( talk) 17:12, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Look in any molecular biology text book, and by definition a codon is found in RNA, specifically messenger RNA. A codon is not found in DNA, although an equivalent triplet sequence is found in the coding strand of a polypeptide-encoding gene.
Sorry, but this article just confuses things. I can see no advantage in having a DNA codon table. Anybody with a working knowledge of this topic will know that, for the equivalent of a codon in the coding strand of DNA, all you have to do is replace a U with a T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.121.25 ( talk) 16:50, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
Since the start codon is AUG in RNA, wouldn't it be TAC in DNA, not ATG? Bases have to form hydrogen bonds to pair. G doesn't bond with G. Believe it or not, you can't ONLY swap U for T, because U bonds with A and A bonds with T / T bonds with A, while C bonds to G and G bonds to C. Similarly, the end codons in RNA are UAA, UAG, and UGA, which correspond to DNA sequences of ATT, ATC, and ACT. In other words, this table is pretty messed up. The way it currently stands, it says ATG is start when ATG = UAC = Tyrosine. The end codons are also wrong. TAG and TAA translate to AUC and AUU, which code for Isoleucine. TGA = ACU = Threonine. Either I'm going crazy or someone really messed up on this codon chart, probably because they just decided to take the RNA chart and replace U with T. Again, TAC should be start and ATT/ATC/ACT should be stop. (Edit: Apparently I am going crazy and have always been using antisense and making things more difficult for myself) -- User:Zuloo37 07:06, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
"A codon table can be used to translate a genetic code into a sequence of amino acids."
Well, perhaps, but that translation is only appropriate if the "genetic code" is actually for a sequence of amino acids; there are plenty of non-coding sequences. Or was this a subtle piece of wording, so it's only a "code" if it does code for a sequence, as opposed to all the other functions of DNA sequences? If so, it really does need explanation, as that sort of thing would pass by many readers. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 17:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello I want to suggest a 3D version of the RNA to better understand the relationships of the codons. A 3D view of the Genetic Code
How can my suggestion be added without upsetting all editors?
Saludos H2mex ( talk) 01:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
The second image in the introduction (the one showing the DNA double helix) is nice, but it seems incorrect if you look closely. That is, if you follow a single strand it reads GCA ACT CTA AAT TGA rather than GCA AGA GAT AAT TGT. With each turn of the helix, which strand is on top in the image switches. Thus, if someone is looking closely to understand how the codons would be found in DNA, they may get confused. Strongyloides ( talk) 14:40, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
We had Template:Codon table and Template:Inverse codon table extracted from the article so we could see and update them in a central place. We should get that arrangement back.
Refs will still work if the names are managed correctly. Same for notes. Artoria 2e5 🌉 05:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)