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I set the importance level of this article to high due to the large impact this system has had. It appears the death toll will continue climb over the next several days. Noah Talk 13:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
The cause of the deadly floods in the Repulic of South Africa aren´t caused by Idai. Instead they were caused by a small Low, which had its center over Central South Africa on 10th March 12UTC. (Map and Satellite Image in german)
http://www1.wetter3.de/Archiv/GFS_Global/2019031012_1_af.gif https://kachelmannwetter.com/de/sat/c957c17147c15feda46592be1d495d8b/top-alarm-15min/20190310-2000z.html
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141.8.84.218 ( talk) 17:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
madagascar was not involved!!
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The second paragraph of the "International aid" part of this page lists contributions from various states. I recommend that the following sentence and citation be added to flesh out this section:
" IsraAid sent personnel to provide medical care, relief supplies, and psychological care. Personnel were also prepared to help restore access to safe water. [1]" E8QLx4L ( talk) 12:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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In international aid section, add following:
Three Indian Navy ships have reached Port Beira with relief material, providing humanitarian assistance to the disaster-affected areas.
Source: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/3-indian-navy-ships-reach-cyclone-hit-mozambique-provide-humanitarian-assistance/amp_articleshow/68503443.cms 106.208.142.144 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Does this still merit inclusion at ITN? Substantive editing appears to have slowed, though not stopped, and the BBC is no longer providing daily updates. Espresso Addict ( talk) 19:51, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit: Could I suggest possibly merging the two landfall sections together and simply report what occurred in each country? I just feel it would be better organized that way as opposed to having two Mozambique sections. Noah Talk 18:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
I am thinking we will likely need sub-articles to cover the impact in Mozambique and the disease outbreak. What does everyone else think? Noah Talk 13:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm having some trouble understanding the leed, particularly these two lines: "Idai originated from a tropical depression that formed off the east coast of Mozambique on 4 March. The storm, Tropical Depression 11, made landfall in Mozambique later in the day and remained a tropical cyclone through its five-day trek over land."
Is this saying that the tropical depression made landfall on the day of its formation and intensified to a cyclone while on land? I'm American, so maybe I'm just confused about the definition of a tropical cyclone? I know the hurricane scale is a little different from the cyclone scale, even though they're the same type of storm.
Hopefully someone can educate me or point me in the right direction. Thank you!
Caitlin.swartz ( talk) 12:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
The meteorological history section (especially the map of the storm's track) cleared up a lot for me. I've also reviewed the Southwest Indian Ocean rating system and I'm wondering if "cyclone" is the right word in "remained a cyclone..."?
I know it might just be semantics, but that's what was so confusing to me initially. To me, the storm's track indicated that it remained a tropical depression over its 5 day track across land.
Obviously, I only have a hobby level interest in meteorology (along with a professional interest in disaster relief), so I don't feel comfortable editing until I get some verification.
ParamediCate ( talk) 12:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit and Hurricanehink: I added a section on the ongoing investigation into sexual exploitation allegations. Definitely something that should be included and expanded upon. Noah Talk 15:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit, LightandDark2000, and Hurricanehink: I just wanted to inform you that I checked the EM-Dat (newly discovered for me) and found an updated death toll for Zimbabwe of 634. I have changed the toll to reflect that, which upgrades this to the deadliest in SWIO. I also upgraded Zimbabwe to top importance. I noticed the database has a toll of 602 for the second landfall and only 10 for the first (it starts on March 9 which was a day after first landfall, but flooding began a few days before that). As that seems to be more questionable, I did not make an update there. Please note that a table will also have to be added for the disease outbreak (I plan to do that sometime). I would like your opinion on the Mozambique situation. Noah Talk 03:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
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I set the importance level of this article to high due to the large impact this system has had. It appears the death toll will continue climb over the next several days. Noah Talk 13:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
The cause of the deadly floods in the Repulic of South Africa aren´t caused by Idai. Instead they were caused by a small Low, which had its center over Central South Africa on 10th March 12UTC. (Map and Satellite Image in german)
http://www1.wetter3.de/Archiv/GFS_Global/2019031012_1_af.gif https://kachelmannwetter.com/de/sat/c957c17147c15feda46592be1d495d8b/top-alarm-15min/20190310-2000z.html
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141.8.84.218 ( talk) 17:40, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
madagascar was not involved!!
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The second paragraph of the "International aid" part of this page lists contributions from various states. I recommend that the following sentence and citation be added to flesh out this section:
" IsraAid sent personnel to provide medical care, relief supplies, and psychological care. Personnel were also prepared to help restore access to safe water. [1]" E8QLx4L ( talk) 12:05, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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In international aid section, add following:
Three Indian Navy ships have reached Port Beira with relief material, providing humanitarian assistance to the disaster-affected areas.
Source: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/3-indian-navy-ships-reach-cyclone-hit-mozambique-provide-humanitarian-assistance/amp_articleshow/68503443.cms 106.208.142.144 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Does this still merit inclusion at ITN? Substantive editing appears to have slowed, though not stopped, and the BBC is no longer providing daily updates. Espresso Addict ( talk) 19:51, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit: Could I suggest possibly merging the two landfall sections together and simply report what occurred in each country? I just feel it would be better organized that way as opposed to having two Mozambique sections. Noah Talk 18:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
I am thinking we will likely need sub-articles to cover the impact in Mozambique and the disease outbreak. What does everyone else think? Noah Talk 13:08, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm having some trouble understanding the leed, particularly these two lines: "Idai originated from a tropical depression that formed off the east coast of Mozambique on 4 March. The storm, Tropical Depression 11, made landfall in Mozambique later in the day and remained a tropical cyclone through its five-day trek over land."
Is this saying that the tropical depression made landfall on the day of its formation and intensified to a cyclone while on land? I'm American, so maybe I'm just confused about the definition of a tropical cyclone? I know the hurricane scale is a little different from the cyclone scale, even though they're the same type of storm.
Hopefully someone can educate me or point me in the right direction. Thank you!
Caitlin.swartz ( talk) 12:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
The meteorological history section (especially the map of the storm's track) cleared up a lot for me. I've also reviewed the Southwest Indian Ocean rating system and I'm wondering if "cyclone" is the right word in "remained a cyclone..."?
I know it might just be semantics, but that's what was so confusing to me initially. To me, the storm's track indicated that it remained a tropical depression over its 5 day track across land.
Obviously, I only have a hobby level interest in meteorology (along with a professional interest in disaster relief), so I don't feel comfortable editing until I get some verification.
ParamediCate ( talk) 12:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit and Hurricanehink: I added a section on the ongoing investigation into sexual exploitation allegations. Definitely something that should be included and expanded upon. Noah Talk 15:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Cyclonebiskit, LightandDark2000, and Hurricanehink: I just wanted to inform you that I checked the EM-Dat (newly discovered for me) and found an updated death toll for Zimbabwe of 634. I have changed the toll to reflect that, which upgrades this to the deadliest in SWIO. I also upgraded Zimbabwe to top importance. I noticed the database has a toll of 602 for the second landfall and only 10 for the first (it starts on March 9 which was a day after first landfall, but flooding began a few days before that). As that seems to be more questionable, I did not make an update there. Please note that a table will also have to be added for the disease outbreak (I plan to do that sometime). I would like your opinion on the Mozambique situation. Noah Talk 03:54, 22 June 2019 (UTC)