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The Transhumanist 21:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The problem from this conspiracy as most state is the accusation that if a company had a cure for large diseases such as cancer and heart disease, would they withhold it? The theory is that they would withhold the cure since they make vast amounts of money from treating these diseases. The theory is that if they cured it, they would not profit as much from it in the short term. This makes logical sense; someone taking medicines that would cure a disease in a short period of time versus someone taking medicine for the rest of their life. In the end, the theory is all about the profits they make. There is no doubt that there would be those who would, in the name of profit, prevent the release of a cure in order to keep their profits flowing. In the end, there isn't a current way to prove nor disprove this theory, because history clearly shows that lots of evil things have been done in the name of profits. Just something to think about. And with this, I leave this quote: "the love of money is the root of all evil" Radix malorum est cupiditas. Cringer ( talk) 08:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
At the moment, there are six or eight redirects that point to this article, in default of a proper article of their own. I've tried to provide one bold-faced "clue" to anyone that happens to have searched for one of them. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Disease free survival is a common end-point in clinical trials - it is a very important concept in oncology and should have its own page - not redirected to "cure".
Quite good explanations of cure and similar concepts and then WHAM, there is an unintelligible section labelled 'Statistical Model' complete with obligatory Wikipedia formula which no-one will understand except those who already know and don't need that section anyway.
One day contributors will realise that if an article needs a formula (unlikely) then it is useless for a general audience. If I had the nerve I would delete that section
Cannonmc ( talk) 02:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. My name is Tracy Kolenchuk, author of The Elements of Cure. I have studied the word cure diligently over the past three years and have many references. I can see that the content here is quite weak, and often simply incorrect.
I am not a Wikipedia editor and not certain of how to go about making changes to content. However, I am able to offer, to start, a clear and complete definition of cure which includes both NOUN, VERB, and modifier (adverb and adjective) uses of the word cure. It also covers cures, curing, and cured. This material is copyrighted from the book, but I would be happy to see it used to clarify the Wikipedia entry.
Cure (verb): to bring about the end of an illness. cure: a process that brings about the end of an illness. cures: performs the act of curing an illness. curing: removing or ending an illness. cured: The past tense of the verb cure. Examples: • The patient wants to cure their scurvy. • The psychologist cures mental diseases. • A healthy diet is credited with curing the scurvy. • The dietary change cured the patient’s scurvy.
Cure (noun): cure: an action that brings about the end of an illness. cures: the plural of cure. curing: the act of ending an illness. cured: those patients who found cures for their illnesses. Examples: • The cure for scurvy is a change to the patient’s diet. • Scurvy’s cures are many, depending on the cause of the illness. • The curing of a patient’s scurvy took many days. • The cured returned to their homes.
Cure (adverb or adjective): cure: a defining a process or action that cures. cured: the state of having been cured.
Example: • The cure process was long and involved • The cured patients danced and sang.
I also see a note suggesting the need for examples. There are two clear medical examples of cure and both are documented in Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Treatment for specific cases. Many infectious illnesses are cured when the infecting agent is killed by an anti-infection medicine. Some infectious illnesses can only be cured by surgery which removes the infecting agent.
NOTE:
Illnesses are cured. An illness is what the patient has. A case of disease (but not a disease) might be cured. However,a disease requires a diagnosis, and a diagnosis is not requried for a cure.
Tracychess ( talk) 00:03, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion at Talk:Cures#Requested move 7 February 2020 proposing that there is no primary topic for the plural which is currently about a place in Italy. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 10:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
yet "HIV became curable (through a very dangerous procedure) when a bone marrow transplant (using a donor with a rare variant of a cell surface receptor) was performed on Timothy Ray Brown..." Drsruli ( talk) 11:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
That's a shame. Drsruli ( talk) 22:24, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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The Transhumanist 21:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
The problem from this conspiracy as most state is the accusation that if a company had a cure for large diseases such as cancer and heart disease, would they withhold it? The theory is that they would withhold the cure since they make vast amounts of money from treating these diseases. The theory is that if they cured it, they would not profit as much from it in the short term. This makes logical sense; someone taking medicines that would cure a disease in a short period of time versus someone taking medicine for the rest of their life. In the end, the theory is all about the profits they make. There is no doubt that there would be those who would, in the name of profit, prevent the release of a cure in order to keep their profits flowing. In the end, there isn't a current way to prove nor disprove this theory, because history clearly shows that lots of evil things have been done in the name of profits. Just something to think about. And with this, I leave this quote: "the love of money is the root of all evil" Radix malorum est cupiditas. Cringer ( talk) 08:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
At the moment, there are six or eight redirects that point to this article, in default of a proper article of their own. I've tried to provide one bold-faced "clue" to anyone that happens to have searched for one of them. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Disease free survival is a common end-point in clinical trials - it is a very important concept in oncology and should have its own page - not redirected to "cure".
Quite good explanations of cure and similar concepts and then WHAM, there is an unintelligible section labelled 'Statistical Model' complete with obligatory Wikipedia formula which no-one will understand except those who already know and don't need that section anyway.
One day contributors will realise that if an article needs a formula (unlikely) then it is useless for a general audience. If I had the nerve I would delete that section
Cannonmc ( talk) 02:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello. My name is Tracy Kolenchuk, author of The Elements of Cure. I have studied the word cure diligently over the past three years and have many references. I can see that the content here is quite weak, and often simply incorrect.
I am not a Wikipedia editor and not certain of how to go about making changes to content. However, I am able to offer, to start, a clear and complete definition of cure which includes both NOUN, VERB, and modifier (adverb and adjective) uses of the word cure. It also covers cures, curing, and cured. This material is copyrighted from the book, but I would be happy to see it used to clarify the Wikipedia entry.
Cure (verb): to bring about the end of an illness. cure: a process that brings about the end of an illness. cures: performs the act of curing an illness. curing: removing or ending an illness. cured: The past tense of the verb cure. Examples: • The patient wants to cure their scurvy. • The psychologist cures mental diseases. • A healthy diet is credited with curing the scurvy. • The dietary change cured the patient’s scurvy.
Cure (noun): cure: an action that brings about the end of an illness. cures: the plural of cure. curing: the act of ending an illness. cured: those patients who found cures for their illnesses. Examples: • The cure for scurvy is a change to the patient’s diet. • Scurvy’s cures are many, depending on the cause of the illness. • The curing of a patient’s scurvy took many days. • The cured returned to their homes.
Cure (adverb or adjective): cure: a defining a process or action that cures. cured: the state of having been cured.
Example: • The cure process was long and involved • The cured patients danced and sang.
I also see a note suggesting the need for examples. There are two clear medical examples of cure and both are documented in Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Treatment for specific cases. Many infectious illnesses are cured when the infecting agent is killed by an anti-infection medicine. Some infectious illnesses can only be cured by surgery which removes the infecting agent.
NOTE:
Illnesses are cured. An illness is what the patient has. A case of disease (but not a disease) might be cured. However,a disease requires a diagnosis, and a diagnosis is not requried for a cure.
Tracychess ( talk) 00:03, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
There is a move discussion at Talk:Cures#Requested move 7 February 2020 proposing that there is no primary topic for the plural which is currently about a place in Italy. Crouch, Swale ( talk) 10:24, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
yet "HIV became curable (through a very dangerous procedure) when a bone marrow transplant (using a donor with a rare variant of a cell surface receptor) was performed on Timothy Ray Brown..." Drsruli ( talk) 11:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
That's a shame. Drsruli ( talk) 22:24, 2 August 2020 (UTC)