I am deleting the part of the opening paragraph that centers around the US for these reasons:
1. There are no cite notes.
2. It claims 'that Canadian culture is simply the northern progression of American culture' which is most certainly wrong (see Quebec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec )
3. It also wrongly states that '90% of Canada's population is within a few miles of the American border'. The correct statement is that 90% of Canada's population leaves within 160 km (100 mi) of the Border 90 percent of the Canadian population is located within 160 kilometers (100 miles)(please see http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Americas/Canada.html )
I am unsure who wrote that section however judging by the use of 'miles' on can be rest assured that it was written by an American who has most likely never set a foot on Canadian soil.
For those who wish to read it here it is:
It has also been strongly influenced by that of its linguistic, economic, and cultural neighbour, the United States.While there are some things considered "exclusive" to Canadian culture, most if not all of these things can be found in areas of the northern United States. The most accurate way to define Candadian culture, is, in reality, simply the natural progressive transition in culture as one travels north when on the continent of North America, and especially when in the United States or Canada. Canadian culture, is, in essence, a type of American culture; simply the most geographically northerly located of such, just like any other part of the United States is a version of American culture. This also does not mean that Canada is one homogeneous culture, but that Canadian culture is simply the northern progression of American culture wherever a particular Canadian population resides along the United States border, (90% of Canadas population lives within a few miles of the United States border) and that Canadian culture is really just the same as the American culture that borders it, with exceptions depending on geographical differences that are likely to have a slight effect on culture in those populated areas that are further from the US border than others. Because Canada has traditionally been under the power of Britian during a long period of time when the United States was independent, there are some things that remain more exclusive to Canada; they are, however, next to irrelevent when one compares the daily cultural lives of a Canadian or American.
Regards,
JackRendar ( talk) 22:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thank you!
I just bet that this was written by a canadian. It starts with a self-deprecating joke. I'm also going to say urban; but, hipness runs from sea to sea to sea cause of the CBC ;-}. Good article so far but I am immediately thinking of the millions of Ukrainians and others brought to the country under Clifford Sifton's direction. This article needs to be several pages long Two 16
Even if it's only dealing with artistic culture (which is how the author is interpreting it) then it needs to be about five times the size. Let's put the Ukranians in a separate article (Dhoukabours?). Even so, will somebody who knows something about it please, please, write and article on the Canadian Stage. I know its good, I know its out there, but I know nowhere near enough to write on it. Especially what's going on outside Ontario.
DJ Clayworth 20:45, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
strike avril from the list of famous artists, please. I do not think she is famous, just you wait. Give her one more year and then she will be gone.
These two articles seem to be about the same thing. The title of this one seems to be the most accurate. It seems, to me at least, a lot in the Canadian identity article is by nature POV--reading more like one person's essay (or a collective's essay) on "What it is to be Canadian." where quite a few values-based assumptions have entered into it as a sort of "weasel word" kind of bias (see the "Multiculturalism" section for instance). Maybe merging here will weed that out and we can have an encyclopedic article on Canadian culture.-- Ben 01:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
There has to be something better than the man-in-a-snowman-suit picture to lead the article with. I'll be looking for pictures that better summarize Canadian culture. Lithoderm ( talk) 05:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads like Bumpf from the culture/heritage ministry about what we're supposed to be, plus the obligatory list of artists. Discussions of regional cultural differences and distinctivenesses are noticeably absent. Have we been so fully homogenized that any mention of the cultures that have been submerged into Greater Toronto's don't even deserve historical mention? Skookum1 19:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
It's not clear to me why the X-Files, Stargate SG-1, Battlestar Galactica, and The Outer Limits are mentioned in this article. Those are notable products of Canadian business and industry, not Canadian culture. -- Ds13 17:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
The initial paragraphs of this article show several glaring points of error, omission, and bias, specifically:
It seems like the article is responding to an unstated assumption that there's no such thing as Canadian culture. That is a peculiar (and non-neutral) POV. The opening paragraphs require a massive rewrite to be more complete, accurate, relevant, and impartial. The introduction should be an executive summary of the rest of the article. (This is not a request for someone else to do work, this is a request for comments before I start hacking away at bad prose.) Avt tor 20:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a picture of Canadian Idol suggesting American Influence. This program is British and surely shows the neo-colonial influence that the brits still maintain! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.134.187.50 ( talk • contribs) 16:26, February 8, 2007 (UTC).
That's utter rubbish. The original British version influenced both the American and Canadian version therefore showing British influence over both. 86.136.2.66 14:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
A page about Canadian culture has only one reference to hockey (and in parentheses in a section called "American influence", no less!)??!? This is absolutely insane and needs to be fixed ASAP. Hockey deserves its own subheading in this article, for pete's sake. The Chief 21:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
In the cinema part, where they say that Bruce Wullis was in Montreal, we should add Heath ledger, Richard Gere, Brad pitt, KAte blanchette, plus this summer Tom Cruise. Movies like '300' and 'sin city' were editated in Québec also.
I have read this article several times and the more I read it, the more unsatisfied I become. First of all, as a Canadian, and someone who live in the midst of Canadian culture, I find it very offputting how so much of this article constantly refers to the U.S. As mentioned above, why is the Canadian Idol picture put up, with the caption talking about how this is an example of American influnce? The article began by mentioning American culture. I am in no way a hard-core Canadian nationalist, and it is obvious to anyone living in Canada that American culture does weigh heavily on our own, but for God's sake, must we constantly describe our own culture by referencing American culture? This article stated very early on that Canada's culture is influenced by the U.S., and went on mentioning it over and over. Should people go into the articles on British culture, French culture, Mexican culture, and the culture of most countries for that matter, and add in statements on how much they are influenced by U.S. culture? The British listen to just as much American music as we do; the French are just as mad about American fast food as we can be, but what is the point? Should we go on and on about how Australians have become more "americanized"? The point of articles such as this one are to inform people about the culture of a nation, not to present a biased opinion on what or who has influenced it. Our culture has British, French, Aboriginal, Immigrant and American influence. Let's state it, and move on.
I don't think Bonhomme Carnaval should be the first picture to show Canadian culture. First of all, it only applies to the French province of Quebec. Secondly, people from Quebec don't consider it a major aspect of their cultural identity. Aikaterinē 16:48, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
The music section has this one paragraph that's now a sprawling list of bands and solo artists. It's unsightly and unnecessary (there's tons of list of musicians articles for this). It needs to be gutted, so before that's done, what should be kept (say half a dozen entries) should be discussed.-- Boffob ( talk) 01:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Aside: I should point out that the list has been pruned several times before, and over a period of a few months, readers that happen upon this article add their favourite band. So long as we continue to retain this as a simple list, this will continue to happen. Either the whole list should be deleted, or we expand the section to describe the influence of each band (with citations) on Canadian cultural development, or as an important factor in Canada's cultural identity. I prefer the latter, but since I have no intention of making such edits to this article, I won't impose my view here and instead offer it as a suggestion. Mind matrix 20:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit afraid this may turn the video game crowds, but it looks to me that with Ubisoft Montreal and Bioware's games (not to mention not as widely known, but just as good studios) conquering the world, should we have a section mildely named "Digital media" to cover items like this? -- Cyberodin 11:06, July 1, 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 14:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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I think the section on American Influence seems to portray it as a undirectional when Canada has in fact greatly influenced American Culture. In sports, television, music and cinema, Canada has had a lot of influence on American Culture (often feeding back in Canada). Even the Acadian influenceo on New Orleans is ignored.
I think this is somethign that should be explored further.
The "Outside Views" section is biased, negative, and represents only one viewpoint by one person. This section should be filled out with several more quotes from varying perspectives in order to give a more fully developed glimpse of "outside views" of Canadian culture. 207.216.214.132 ( talk) 05:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It should be deleted, there isn't an 'Outside Views' section on any other country, for example England (my country) doesn't mention how much English culture has historically been derided continental Europeans, esp. French, and America doesn't have one either and their culture is constantly being criticised. The section is totally unnecessary. 91.104.93.243 ( talk) 03:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Most legit cultures have a distinct variety of food and dance! If I say a German sausage, or beer, or French bread, you know what I am talking about. The same with a cheese or style of dance. Even a style of dress. Most cultures have a distict landmark or two. Where are these things in this article? reading it, one would think that Canada has no culture at all! Surely Canada has it's own cheese, bread, beer, sausage, dance, dress-style and landmarks? Why are none of these things mentioned? mention of a Jazz festival is fine, and so is a pic of the chinese architecture, but those things are American and Chinese respectively, where is the traditional Canadian architecture and Canadian music festival? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.193.50.181 ( talk) 05:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
i know right
Article has been updated as of Feb. If you would like to help = Pls make sure the spelling of English words consistent with Canadian spelling. Also a copy edit by a third party would be good. As per the norm pls make sure refs are ok. Moxy ( talk) 05:28, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
This is not worded well. The cultural mixing began immediately, with Champlain himself living with aboriginals, and intermarriage or cohabitation happening from the start. The Quebec legislature's face is covered with reliefs indicating this mixing of New and Old World cultures and peoples. There were few French women in Canada until much later than Champlain's day, when the Filles du Roy were sent to counter the trend towards Quebec becoming a metis culture with divided loyalties. The most quintessential Canadian traits and traditions are often Aboriginal in origin: things like snowshoes, canoeing, lacrosse, hunting and fishing, the outdoors and survival ethos present in most literature and much artwork, and some have argued deeply held attitudes regarding consensus, multiculturalism, medicine, collectivism, egalitarianism. I'm writing this as a non-aboriginal, Canadian high school teacher with an M.A. degree. When I studied Canadian history, and I studied a lot of it, the native peoples were about a quarter of the story! Even English Canada was founded and preserved from American conquest by an alliance between the British and the Iroquois, with Joseph Brant the Iroquois Haudenosaunee leader being memorialized all over Southern Ontario. Even the Loyalists were primarily Americans, bringing with them a culture already influenced for hundreds of years by interaction (both hostile and peaceable) with Amerindians. The Prairie provinces of Saskatchewan and Manitoba were founded by a metis leader who later led a rebellion and was executed. Even today, geographically speaking, the native languages of Cree, Inuktituk, and Ojibwe cover an enormous area where they are the predominant tongues. Kozushi ( talk) 05:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
An editor was attempting to remove gun control as a part of Canadian culture in the lead section. This section is sourced. Once that was explained, the editor has turned to replacing the statement with its opposite, that there are 2 millions gun owners in Canada, using a statistic as a source. The problem is, the paragraph in question is discussing Canada's reputation as progressive and lists items considered progressive, same-sex marriage, gun control and so on. This is sourced. Throwing in some information about gun ownership makes no sense in the context of this paragraph and as well, it is original research as the only source given is a statistic. Just because this editor claims that gun ownership is part of Canadian culture does not make it so. If there are published sources that convey gun ownership as a part of Canadian identity or that the claiming of progressive causes as Canadian identity is flawed, this can be added to the article if written properly. But just adding an editor's own POV because he doesn't like something is not the way to go. He has been warned about disruptive editing and edit warring but edits from different IP addresses. freshacconci talktalk 15:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
U.S. gun-rights activists found it hard to understand Canadians' acquiescence to such far-reaching gun controls. ... To many Canadians, the nation's strict gun controls are a prime reason why gun murders are rare in Canada
As in Great Britain, after Canada implemented its more stringent gun controls, its homicide rate advantage over the United ... therefore cannot conclude from such simple cross-national comparisons that stricter gun controls reduced violence
Historically, Canada has had stricter gun control legislation than the United States, as well as lower rates of criminal violence and a higher suicide rate
They point to other countries, such as Canada and Japan, that have strict gun control laws and much lower rates of shootings, asserting that gun control therefore must work to reduce violence
Gun control proponents often point out that countries such as Great Britain and Canada, which have strong gun control laws also have lower rates of violent crime.
Culture encompasses representations of eroticism in the culture. Why would it not?{{unsigned|| — Preceding unsigned comment added by BetterThanSuchAsYou ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I have found some stuff (sources) as seen below ...can we do anything with it? Do we have the proper sources to make statements of a cultural nature? So lets look at the source that I can find!!!! What do others think - is porn a part of Canadian culture that needs representation here? Is it of political concern...as in a partisan topic that divides the parties? Is it a main concern in the courts? -- Moxy ( talk) 17:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- William H. New (2002). Encyclopedia of Literature in Canada. University of Toronto Press. p. 187. ISBN 978-0-8020-0761-2.
- Dany Lacombe (1994). Blue Politics: Pornography and the Law in the Age of Feminism. University of Toronto Press. p. 75. ISBN 978-0-8020-7352-5.
- Lance W. Roberts; Rodney A. Clifton; Barry Ferguson (2005). Recent Social Trends in Canada, 1960-2000. McGill-Queen's Press. p. 515. ISBN 978-0-7735-7314-7.
- Thomas Waugh (2006). Romance of Transgression in Canada: Queering Sexualities, Nations, Cinemas. McGill-Queen's Press. p. 242. ISBN 978-0-7735-7680-3.
- Dr Yaman Akdeniz (2013). Internet Child Pornography and the Law: National and International Responses. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. p. 152. ISBN 978-1-4094-9607-6.
@ Wnt question about ANI reply "it's not really theirs to fix". Where should one go when we have a disruptive editor that seems not understand consensus and not talking to use while we are try to figure out what should or should not be said? On a side note need to work on the Pornography in Canada article as it does not help our readers at all with no content or sources etc. -- Moxy ( talk) 18:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Of possible interest to editors of this article: McMaster University is accepting applications for a Wikipedia Visiting Scholars position with a possible focus on popular culture in Canada. Through the Visiting Scholars program, educational institutions provide experienced Wikipedians with remote access to their libraries' research resources. The Wikipedian is given an official university login and agrees to create/improve articles on Wikipedia in a subject area of mutual interest. The positions are unpaid, remote, and usually go for 6 or 12 months. If you have at least 1000 edits, an account at least 1 year old, and experience improving content, you're eligible. For more information see Wikipedia:Visiting Scholars. Ryan (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 15:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I find this article to be belligerently biased toward U.S. cultural imperialism.
Way too much speculative language is used to "validate" the implicit uselessness of Canada's attempt to produce, promote, and reinforce Canadian content in an era of U.S.-dominated media. Almost everything in the article reads as a reaction to the United States. For instance, why do the film, media, and television sections speak of Canadian English-language content as if it were inconsequential (or even nonessential) to Anglo Canadians? I mean, the inference here is that this content would not exist at all without the CBC or the CRTC regulations, in turn propagating the falsehood that Anglo Canadians by nature are uninterested in if not lack artistic expression (and therefore require their UK and U.S. neighbours to provide them with some form of culture for them to consume). In reality, there is a great deal of Canadian television available in English, and Canadian media is substantially different from its U.S. counterpart, particularly in news reporting, which should warrant inclusion in this article. Oh, and what about the influence of Canada on the U.S. (and world culture[s])?
As well, problematic wording is rampant throughout. For instance, the subsection concerning identity reads:
The word "perhaps" is problematic here because it is elusive rather than encyclopedic. Has a formal study been undertaken to justify such a claim? There is no question that Canadian identity has always been under scrutiny, yes, but framing it within the context of "modern nations" (by the way, what does modern even mean to the reference's author?) only serves to perpetuate stereotypes and surely mockery rather than foster a deeper understanding of Canadian sensibilities.
There is still a laundry list of other issues. Where is the section on the culturally celebrated RCMP uniform? How about the traditional music styles of Acadia, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia proper, Newfoundland, and Quebec? Why are endemic Canadian foods given limited coverage? Why is multiculturalism, a phenomenon that began in the mid-1970s, treated as if it has always defined Canada? I could go on for hours.
This article is currently a piece of propaganda and requires heavy restructuring. 216.191.43.98 ( talk) 17:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
perhaps worth a short section? There's almost nothing in here about Atlantic Cdn culture, for example (even in the music section!). Might be worth a short section on the cultures of specific regions of Canada with links - right now there's a lot (and most of the images) from Toronto — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.165.22 ( talk) 16:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
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I am deleting the part of the opening paragraph that centers around the US for these reasons:
1. There are no cite notes.
2. It claims 'that Canadian culture is simply the northern progression of American culture' which is most certainly wrong (see Quebec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec )
3. It also wrongly states that '90% of Canada's population is within a few miles of the American border'. The correct statement is that 90% of Canada's population leaves within 160 km (100 mi) of the Border 90 percent of the Canadian population is located within 160 kilometers (100 miles)(please see http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Americas/Canada.html )
I am unsure who wrote that section however judging by the use of 'miles' on can be rest assured that it was written by an American who has most likely never set a foot on Canadian soil.
For those who wish to read it here it is:
It has also been strongly influenced by that of its linguistic, economic, and cultural neighbour, the United States.While there are some things considered "exclusive" to Canadian culture, most if not all of these things can be found in areas of the northern United States. The most accurate way to define Candadian culture, is, in reality, simply the natural progressive transition in culture as one travels north when on the continent of North America, and especially when in the United States or Canada. Canadian culture, is, in essence, a type of American culture; simply the most geographically northerly located of such, just like any other part of the United States is a version of American culture. This also does not mean that Canada is one homogeneous culture, but that Canadian culture is simply the northern progression of American culture wherever a particular Canadian population resides along the United States border, (90% of Canadas population lives within a few miles of the United States border) and that Canadian culture is really just the same as the American culture that borders it, with exceptions depending on geographical differences that are likely to have a slight effect on culture in those populated areas that are further from the US border than others. Because Canada has traditionally been under the power of Britian during a long period of time when the United States was independent, there are some things that remain more exclusive to Canada; they are, however, next to irrelevent when one compares the daily cultural lives of a Canadian or American.
Regards,
JackRendar ( talk) 22:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thank you!
I just bet that this was written by a canadian. It starts with a self-deprecating joke. I'm also going to say urban; but, hipness runs from sea to sea to sea cause of the CBC ;-}. Good article so far but I am immediately thinking of the millions of Ukrainians and others brought to the country under Clifford Sifton's direction. This article needs to be several pages long Two 16
Even if it's only dealing with artistic culture (which is how the author is interpreting it) then it needs to be about five times the size. Let's put the Ukranians in a separate article (Dhoukabours?). Even so, will somebody who knows something about it please, please, write and article on the Canadian Stage. I know its good, I know its out there, but I know nowhere near enough to write on it. Especially what's going on outside Ontario.
DJ Clayworth 20:45, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
strike avril from the list of famous artists, please. I do not think she is famous, just you wait. Give her one more year and then she will be gone.
These two articles seem to be about the same thing. The title of this one seems to be the most accurate. It seems, to me at least, a lot in the Canadian identity article is by nature POV--reading more like one person's essay (or a collective's essay) on "What it is to be Canadian." where quite a few values-based assumptions have entered into it as a sort of "weasel word" kind of bias (see the "Multiculturalism" section for instance). Maybe merging here will weed that out and we can have an encyclopedic article on Canadian culture.-- Ben 01:00, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
There has to be something better than the man-in-a-snowman-suit picture to lead the article with. I'll be looking for pictures that better summarize Canadian culture. Lithoderm ( talk) 05:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
The article currently reads like Bumpf from the culture/heritage ministry about what we're supposed to be, plus the obligatory list of artists. Discussions of regional cultural differences and distinctivenesses are noticeably absent. Have we been so fully homogenized that any mention of the cultures that have been submerged into Greater Toronto's don't even deserve historical mention? Skookum1 19:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
It's not clear to me why the X-Files, Stargate SG-1, Battlestar Galactica, and The Outer Limits are mentioned in this article. Those are notable products of Canadian business and industry, not Canadian culture. -- Ds13 17:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
The initial paragraphs of this article show several glaring points of error, omission, and bias, specifically:
It seems like the article is responding to an unstated assumption that there's no such thing as Canadian culture. That is a peculiar (and non-neutral) POV. The opening paragraphs require a massive rewrite to be more complete, accurate, relevant, and impartial. The introduction should be an executive summary of the rest of the article. (This is not a request for someone else to do work, this is a request for comments before I start hacking away at bad prose.) Avt tor 20:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Why is there a picture of Canadian Idol suggesting American Influence. This program is British and surely shows the neo-colonial influence that the brits still maintain! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.134.187.50 ( talk • contribs) 16:26, February 8, 2007 (UTC).
That's utter rubbish. The original British version influenced both the American and Canadian version therefore showing British influence over both. 86.136.2.66 14:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
A page about Canadian culture has only one reference to hockey (and in parentheses in a section called "American influence", no less!)??!? This is absolutely insane and needs to be fixed ASAP. Hockey deserves its own subheading in this article, for pete's sake. The Chief 21:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
In the cinema part, where they say that Bruce Wullis was in Montreal, we should add Heath ledger, Richard Gere, Brad pitt, KAte blanchette, plus this summer Tom Cruise. Movies like '300' and 'sin city' were editated in Québec also.
I have read this article several times and the more I read it, the more unsatisfied I become. First of all, as a Canadian, and someone who live in the midst of Canadian culture, I find it very offputting how so much of this article constantly refers to the U.S. As mentioned above, why is the Canadian Idol picture put up, with the caption talking about how this is an example of American influnce? The article began by mentioning American culture. I am in no way a hard-core Canadian nationalist, and it is obvious to anyone living in Canada that American culture does weigh heavily on our own, but for God's sake, must we constantly describe our own culture by referencing American culture? This article stated very early on that Canada's culture is influenced by the U.S., and went on mentioning it over and over. Should people go into the articles on British culture, French culture, Mexican culture, and the culture of most countries for that matter, and add in statements on how much they are influenced by U.S. culture? The British listen to just as much American music as we do; the French are just as mad about American fast food as we can be, but what is the point? Should we go on and on about how Australians have become more "americanized"? The point of articles such as this one are to inform people about the culture of a nation, not to present a biased opinion on what or who has influenced it. Our culture has British, French, Aboriginal, Immigrant and American influence. Let's state it, and move on.
I don't think Bonhomme Carnaval should be the first picture to show Canadian culture. First of all, it only applies to the French province of Quebec. Secondly, people from Quebec don't consider it a major aspect of their cultural identity. Aikaterinē 16:48, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
The music section has this one paragraph that's now a sprawling list of bands and solo artists. It's unsightly and unnecessary (there's tons of list of musicians articles for this). It needs to be gutted, so before that's done, what should be kept (say half a dozen entries) should be discussed.-- Boffob ( talk) 01:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Aside: I should point out that the list has been pruned several times before, and over a period of a few months, readers that happen upon this article add their favourite band. So long as we continue to retain this as a simple list, this will continue to happen. Either the whole list should be deleted, or we expand the section to describe the influence of each band (with citations) on Canadian cultural development, or as an important factor in Canada's cultural identity. I prefer the latter, but since I have no intention of making such edits to this article, I won't impose my view here and instead offer it as a suggestion. Mind matrix 20:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit afraid this may turn the video game crowds, but it looks to me that with Ubisoft Montreal and Bioware's games (not to mention not as widely known, but just as good studios) conquering the world, should we have a section mildely named "Digital media" to cover items like this? -- Cyberodin 11:06, July 1, 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 14:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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I think the section on American Influence seems to portray it as a undirectional when Canada has in fact greatly influenced American Culture. In sports, television, music and cinema, Canada has had a lot of influence on American Culture (often feeding back in Canada). Even the Acadian influenceo on New Orleans is ignored.
I think this is somethign that should be explored further.
The "Outside Views" section is biased, negative, and represents only one viewpoint by one person. This section should be filled out with several more quotes from varying perspectives in order to give a more fully developed glimpse of "outside views" of Canadian culture. 207.216.214.132 ( talk) 05:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It should be deleted, there isn't an 'Outside Views' section on any other country, for example England (my country) doesn't mention how much English culture has historically been derided continental Europeans, esp. French, and America doesn't have one either and their culture is constantly being criticised. The section is totally unnecessary. 91.104.93.243 ( talk) 03:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Most legit cultures have a distinct variety of food and dance! If I say a German sausage, or beer, or French bread, you know what I am talking about. The same with a cheese or style of dance. Even a style of dress. Most cultures have a distict landmark or two. Where are these things in this article? reading it, one would think that Canada has no culture at all! Surely Canada has it's own cheese, bread, beer, sausage, dance, dress-style and landmarks? Why are none of these things mentioned? mention of a Jazz festival is fine, and so is a pic of the chinese architecture, but those things are American and Chinese respectively, where is the traditional Canadian architecture and Canadian music festival? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.193.50.181 ( talk) 05:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
i know right
Article has been updated as of Feb. If you would like to help = Pls make sure the spelling of English words consistent with Canadian spelling. Also a copy edit by a third party would be good. As per the norm pls make sure refs are ok. Moxy ( talk) 05:28, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
This is not worded well. The cultural mixing began immediately, with Champlain himself living with aboriginals, and intermarriage or cohabitation happening from the start. The Quebec legislature's face is covered with reliefs indicating this mixing of New and Old World cultures and peoples. There were few French women in Canada until much later than Champlain's day, when the Filles du Roy were sent to counter the trend towards Quebec becoming a metis culture with divided loyalties. The most quintessential Canadian traits and traditions are often Aboriginal in origin: things like snowshoes, canoeing, lacrosse, hunting and fishing, the outdoors and survival ethos present in most literature and much artwork, and some have argued deeply held attitudes regarding consensus, multiculturalism, medicine, collectivism, egalitarianism. I'm writing this as a non-aboriginal, Canadian high school teacher with an M.A. degree. When I studied Canadian history, and I studied a lot of it, the native peoples were about a quarter of the story! Even English Canada was founded and preserved from American conquest by an alliance between the British and the Iroquois, with Joseph Brant the Iroquois Haudenosaunee leader being memorialized all over Southern Ontario. Even the Loyalists were primarily Americans, bringing with them a culture already influenced for hundreds of years by interaction (both hostile and peaceable) with Amerindians. The Prairie provinces of Saskatchewan and Manitoba were founded by a metis leader who later led a rebellion and was executed. Even today, geographically speaking, the native languages of Cree, Inuktituk, and Ojibwe cover an enormous area where they are the predominant tongues. Kozushi ( talk) 05:09, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
An editor was attempting to remove gun control as a part of Canadian culture in the lead section. This section is sourced. Once that was explained, the editor has turned to replacing the statement with its opposite, that there are 2 millions gun owners in Canada, using a statistic as a source. The problem is, the paragraph in question is discussing Canada's reputation as progressive and lists items considered progressive, same-sex marriage, gun control and so on. This is sourced. Throwing in some information about gun ownership makes no sense in the context of this paragraph and as well, it is original research as the only source given is a statistic. Just because this editor claims that gun ownership is part of Canadian culture does not make it so. If there are published sources that convey gun ownership as a part of Canadian identity or that the claiming of progressive causes as Canadian identity is flawed, this can be added to the article if written properly. But just adding an editor's own POV because he doesn't like something is not the way to go. He has been warned about disruptive editing and edit warring but edits from different IP addresses. freshacconci talktalk 15:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
U.S. gun-rights activists found it hard to understand Canadians' acquiescence to such far-reaching gun controls. ... To many Canadians, the nation's strict gun controls are a prime reason why gun murders are rare in Canada
As in Great Britain, after Canada implemented its more stringent gun controls, its homicide rate advantage over the United ... therefore cannot conclude from such simple cross-national comparisons that stricter gun controls reduced violence
Historically, Canada has had stricter gun control legislation than the United States, as well as lower rates of criminal violence and a higher suicide rate
They point to other countries, such as Canada and Japan, that have strict gun control laws and much lower rates of shootings, asserting that gun control therefore must work to reduce violence
Gun control proponents often point out that countries such as Great Britain and Canada, which have strong gun control laws also have lower rates of violent crime.
Culture encompasses representations of eroticism in the culture. Why would it not?{{unsigned|| — Preceding unsigned comment added by BetterThanSuchAsYou ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I have found some stuff (sources) as seen below ...can we do anything with it? Do we have the proper sources to make statements of a cultural nature? So lets look at the source that I can find!!!! What do others think - is porn a part of Canadian culture that needs representation here? Is it of political concern...as in a partisan topic that divides the parties? Is it a main concern in the courts? -- Moxy ( talk) 17:06, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- William H. New (2002). Encyclopedia of Literature in Canada. University of Toronto Press. p. 187. ISBN 978-0-8020-0761-2.
- Dany Lacombe (1994). Blue Politics: Pornography and the Law in the Age of Feminism. University of Toronto Press. p. 75. ISBN 978-0-8020-7352-5.
- Lance W. Roberts; Rodney A. Clifton; Barry Ferguson (2005). Recent Social Trends in Canada, 1960-2000. McGill-Queen's Press. p. 515. ISBN 978-0-7735-7314-7.
- Thomas Waugh (2006). Romance of Transgression in Canada: Queering Sexualities, Nations, Cinemas. McGill-Queen's Press. p. 242. ISBN 978-0-7735-7680-3.
- Dr Yaman Akdeniz (2013). Internet Child Pornography and the Law: National and International Responses. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. p. 152. ISBN 978-1-4094-9607-6.
@ Wnt question about ANI reply "it's not really theirs to fix". Where should one go when we have a disruptive editor that seems not understand consensus and not talking to use while we are try to figure out what should or should not be said? On a side note need to work on the Pornography in Canada article as it does not help our readers at all with no content or sources etc. -- Moxy ( talk) 18:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Of possible interest to editors of this article: McMaster University is accepting applications for a Wikipedia Visiting Scholars position with a possible focus on popular culture in Canada. Through the Visiting Scholars program, educational institutions provide experienced Wikipedians with remote access to their libraries' research resources. The Wikipedian is given an official university login and agrees to create/improve articles on Wikipedia in a subject area of mutual interest. The positions are unpaid, remote, and usually go for 6 or 12 months. If you have at least 1000 edits, an account at least 1 year old, and experience improving content, you're eligible. For more information see Wikipedia:Visiting Scholars. Ryan (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 15:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
I find this article to be belligerently biased toward U.S. cultural imperialism.
Way too much speculative language is used to "validate" the implicit uselessness of Canada's attempt to produce, promote, and reinforce Canadian content in an era of U.S.-dominated media. Almost everything in the article reads as a reaction to the United States. For instance, why do the film, media, and television sections speak of Canadian English-language content as if it were inconsequential (or even nonessential) to Anglo Canadians? I mean, the inference here is that this content would not exist at all without the CBC or the CRTC regulations, in turn propagating the falsehood that Anglo Canadians by nature are uninterested in if not lack artistic expression (and therefore require their UK and U.S. neighbours to provide them with some form of culture for them to consume). In reality, there is a great deal of Canadian television available in English, and Canadian media is substantially different from its U.S. counterpart, particularly in news reporting, which should warrant inclusion in this article. Oh, and what about the influence of Canada on the U.S. (and world culture[s])?
As well, problematic wording is rampant throughout. For instance, the subsection concerning identity reads:
The word "perhaps" is problematic here because it is elusive rather than encyclopedic. Has a formal study been undertaken to justify such a claim? There is no question that Canadian identity has always been under scrutiny, yes, but framing it within the context of "modern nations" (by the way, what does modern even mean to the reference's author?) only serves to perpetuate stereotypes and surely mockery rather than foster a deeper understanding of Canadian sensibilities.
There is still a laundry list of other issues. Where is the section on the culturally celebrated RCMP uniform? How about the traditional music styles of Acadia, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia proper, Newfoundland, and Quebec? Why are endemic Canadian foods given limited coverage? Why is multiculturalism, a phenomenon that began in the mid-1970s, treated as if it has always defined Canada? I could go on for hours.
This article is currently a piece of propaganda and requires heavy restructuring. 216.191.43.98 ( talk) 17:53, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
perhaps worth a short section? There's almost nothing in here about Atlantic Cdn culture, for example (even in the music section!). Might be worth a short section on the cultures of specific regions of Canada with links - right now there's a lot (and most of the images) from Toronto — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.165.22 ( talk) 16:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
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I have move the image to the right out of the lead into the section on sports. Not sure this hard to see image is representative of Canadian culture as a whole to be the first thing readers see. -- Moxy ( talk) 07:24, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
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