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There is an ongoing dispute, and in order to avoid further conflict, I would like to express my reasons for reverting.
1. The person removed the following parts without trying to find a source or adding a "source needed" template. According to Wikipedia guidelines, this information cannot be deleted this simply:
- Azerbaijani cuisine is deeply rooted in the country's history, traditions, and values. citation needed - Azerbaijani decorative arts have been documented by merchants, travelers, and diplomats. citation needed - Since the Middle Ages, poets have gathered in ''meyhanes'' to exchange verses extemporaneously; their audience would decide which poet had improvised the most elegant, clever verses. citation needed
2. North and South Azerbaijani Issue:
- In the cited literature, there is no mention of this separation. The IP address first vandalized the page by adding North and South Azerbaijani information and did WP:V/HOAX:
"The central traditions find their continuation in a fourth group, the epic poetry of the southwestern Turkic peoples, the Turkmens, Azerbaijanis (South and North), and Anatolian Turks. Here the predominant form is prosimetric, and there is a predilection for love and adventure romance. The main hero of their adventure romances is Koroghlu."
- The bold part does not exist in the literature in either source. Following the correction of the issue with the source, the person continued to use the terms "South and North Azerbaijani" even though the wrong citation was the source of this issue.
Following these issues, I reverted the page.
My suggestions are:
- Do not remove the information but find citations or tag it as needing a citation.
- Remove the South and North Division, from the classical era part under the literature.
@ Arjayay @ Macaddct1984 Göycen ( talk) 22:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
My suggestion remains that we should not remove information outright but instead tag it as needing citation or find proper sources to support it. Additionally, the terms "South and North Azerbaijani" should be removed if they are not supported by reliable sources.- This statement seems in conflict; you seem to want have your cake and eat it too. Challenged content in particular needs to be sourced or removed until it is appropriately sourced.
Material that is actually challenged by another editor requires a source or it may be removed; and anything likely to incur a reasonable challenge should be sourced to avoid disputes and to aid readers (see WP:BURDEN). In practice, this means that most material is backed by an inline citation. In case of multiple possible references for a statement, the best reliable sources should be used. - WP:WHEN
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There is an ongoing dispute, and in order to avoid further conflict, I would like to express my reasons for reverting.
1. The person removed the following parts without trying to find a source or adding a "source needed" template. According to Wikipedia guidelines, this information cannot be deleted this simply:
- Azerbaijani cuisine is deeply rooted in the country's history, traditions, and values. citation needed - Azerbaijani decorative arts have been documented by merchants, travelers, and diplomats. citation needed - Since the Middle Ages, poets have gathered in ''meyhanes'' to exchange verses extemporaneously; their audience would decide which poet had improvised the most elegant, clever verses. citation needed
2. North and South Azerbaijani Issue:
- In the cited literature, there is no mention of this separation. The IP address first vandalized the page by adding North and South Azerbaijani information and did WP:V/HOAX:
"The central traditions find their continuation in a fourth group, the epic poetry of the southwestern Turkic peoples, the Turkmens, Azerbaijanis (South and North), and Anatolian Turks. Here the predominant form is prosimetric, and there is a predilection for love and adventure romance. The main hero of their adventure romances is Koroghlu."
- The bold part does not exist in the literature in either source. Following the correction of the issue with the source, the person continued to use the terms "South and North Azerbaijani" even though the wrong citation was the source of this issue.
Following these issues, I reverted the page.
My suggestions are:
- Do not remove the information but find citations or tag it as needing a citation.
- Remove the South and North Division, from the classical era part under the literature.
@ Arjayay @ Macaddct1984 Göycen ( talk) 22:44, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
My suggestion remains that we should not remove information outright but instead tag it as needing citation or find proper sources to support it. Additionally, the terms "South and North Azerbaijani" should be removed if they are not supported by reliable sources.- This statement seems in conflict; you seem to want have your cake and eat it too. Challenged content in particular needs to be sourced or removed until it is appropriately sourced.
Material that is actually challenged by another editor requires a source or it may be removed; and anything likely to incur a reasonable challenge should be sourced to avoid disputes and to aid readers (see WP:BURDEN). In practice, this means that most material is backed by an inline citation. In case of multiple possible references for a statement, the best reliable sources should be used. - WP:WHEN