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Hadrianheugh 00:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, this article is at the wrong title and should be moved to Cults, Aberdeen.-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 18:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I submitted an article stub on the Multiplicants and planned to enter another on the Lothardi. But the Multiplicants one was deleted due to insufficient data. I figured I'd combine them into a single page, but wasn't sure where to go with it.
Ideas or suggestions? This page cults looked reasonable, but the content didn't quite match.
Nodosaurus ( talk) 18:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The only reference on this page (to the CBM community council) says "Cults, Bieldside and Milltimber are three villages within Aberdeen City". Unless there is another source stating the opposite, this page should say that Cults is a village, not a suburb. I'm not making this edit directly because it was recently undone and I don't want to start an edit war. BWDuncan ( talk) 14:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
“ | Cults, Milltimber and Peterculter, like so many other suburbs of Aberdeen, were once separate villages, but have long ago been absorbed into the expanding built-up area of the city. Whilst you will still see the word "village" used by shops and estate agents to create an air of desirability based on nostalgia, "suburb" is a much more accurate description suitable for Wikipedia, which is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a promotional guide. Next time you drive (or take the bus) along North Deeside Road from the city through Cults, Bieldside and Milltimber to Culter, take note of how you never leave the built-up area, and that the speed limit remains 30mph the whole way. The odd patch of parkland doesn't count as rural. In the Kingswells direction the situation is slightly different. The speed limit becomes 40mph from Hazlehead, but there's still no rural separation. Kingswells comprises modern housing developments, industrial estates, business parks, the new football stadium development, all much better characterised as "suburban" than "village". If anywhere within Aberdeen could be described as a village it would be places like Balgownie, Footdee/Fittie, Torry and Cove Bay, places that still have a distinct sense of their own identity, but these too have become part of the wider conurbation and are still better described as suburbs. I would point out to you that whoever wrote these articles in the first place no doubt carefully chose their descriptive words, and it is unwise to come along at this late stage and arbitrarily change a few of them without consensus. | ” |
You know, I think maybe the Aberdeen Solicitors' Property Centre has the right kind of approach, even though it is trying to sell houses. I think we could model our wording on what they do, acknowledging that suburb vs. village is not a hard and fast exclusive divide. Here's what they have to say about these North Deeside Road settlements:
“ | Cults is an attractive and popular suburb of Aberdeen, conveniently located just a few miles west of the city centre. Situated on the banks of the River Dee and surrounded by beautiful countryside, Cults also retains a village feel and boasts a number of green spaces despite its close proximity to the city. | ” |
“ | Bieldside is a leafy, residential suburb of Aberdeen, situated approximately six miles to the west of the city centre on the route to Royal Deeside. Formerly a village on the outskirts of Aberdeen, Bieldside is part of the City area but is set against the backdrop of the rolling countryside in the River Dee valley. | ” |
“ | Milltimber is an attractive village situated between Peterculter and Bieldside in the Lower Deeside area, to the west of Aberdeen. The village is well placed for commuting on the A93 road and offers easy access to Aberdeen by car or public transport, with regular services to Aberdeen city centre. | ” |
“ | Peterculter is an attractive and popular residential area located around 9 miles west of Aberdeen city centre, on the northern banks of the River Dee. The most westerly suburb of Aberdeen, Peterculter retains a strong village identity. | ” |
Above quotes are taken from https://www.aspc.co.uk/information/local-areas/ -- 188.28.158.163 ( talk) 21:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hadrianheugh 00:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Unless I'm mistaken, this article is at the wrong title and should be moved to Cults, Aberdeen.-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 18:25, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I submitted an article stub on the Multiplicants and planned to enter another on the Lothardi. But the Multiplicants one was deleted due to insufficient data. I figured I'd combine them into a single page, but wasn't sure where to go with it.
Ideas or suggestions? This page cults looked reasonable, but the content didn't quite match.
Nodosaurus ( talk) 18:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The only reference on this page (to the CBM community council) says "Cults, Bieldside and Milltimber are three villages within Aberdeen City". Unless there is another source stating the opposite, this page should say that Cults is a village, not a suburb. I'm not making this edit directly because it was recently undone and I don't want to start an edit war. BWDuncan ( talk) 14:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
“ | Cults, Milltimber and Peterculter, like so many other suburbs of Aberdeen, were once separate villages, but have long ago been absorbed into the expanding built-up area of the city. Whilst you will still see the word "village" used by shops and estate agents to create an air of desirability based on nostalgia, "suburb" is a much more accurate description suitable for Wikipedia, which is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a promotional guide. Next time you drive (or take the bus) along North Deeside Road from the city through Cults, Bieldside and Milltimber to Culter, take note of how you never leave the built-up area, and that the speed limit remains 30mph the whole way. The odd patch of parkland doesn't count as rural. In the Kingswells direction the situation is slightly different. The speed limit becomes 40mph from Hazlehead, but there's still no rural separation. Kingswells comprises modern housing developments, industrial estates, business parks, the new football stadium development, all much better characterised as "suburban" than "village". If anywhere within Aberdeen could be described as a village it would be places like Balgownie, Footdee/Fittie, Torry and Cove Bay, places that still have a distinct sense of their own identity, but these too have become part of the wider conurbation and are still better described as suburbs. I would point out to you that whoever wrote these articles in the first place no doubt carefully chose their descriptive words, and it is unwise to come along at this late stage and arbitrarily change a few of them without consensus. | ” |
You know, I think maybe the Aberdeen Solicitors' Property Centre has the right kind of approach, even though it is trying to sell houses. I think we could model our wording on what they do, acknowledging that suburb vs. village is not a hard and fast exclusive divide. Here's what they have to say about these North Deeside Road settlements:
“ | Cults is an attractive and popular suburb of Aberdeen, conveniently located just a few miles west of the city centre. Situated on the banks of the River Dee and surrounded by beautiful countryside, Cults also retains a village feel and boasts a number of green spaces despite its close proximity to the city. | ” |
“ | Bieldside is a leafy, residential suburb of Aberdeen, situated approximately six miles to the west of the city centre on the route to Royal Deeside. Formerly a village on the outskirts of Aberdeen, Bieldside is part of the City area but is set against the backdrop of the rolling countryside in the River Dee valley. | ” |
“ | Milltimber is an attractive village situated between Peterculter and Bieldside in the Lower Deeside area, to the west of Aberdeen. The village is well placed for commuting on the A93 road and offers easy access to Aberdeen by car or public transport, with regular services to Aberdeen city centre. | ” |
“ | Peterculter is an attractive and popular residential area located around 9 miles west of Aberdeen city centre, on the northern banks of the River Dee. The most westerly suburb of Aberdeen, Peterculter retains a strong village identity. | ” |
Above quotes are taken from https://www.aspc.co.uk/information/local-areas/ -- 188.28.158.163 ( talk) 21:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)