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It seems strange that there isn't an article on Cubans. Some of the information found in the articles on Cuba and Cuban-Americans could perhaps be used to start it, following the standard format of nationality-articles. JdeJ 23:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
"British ... Scottish" - what are the Scottish if not British ? Why say British, but show the English flag ? And what about the Irish ?
How is this sort of thing normally done ? -- Beardo ( talk) 09:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Like the title says Cubans are not an ethnic group of their own. Its kind of like saying American people are from one ethnic group. If this was the case why isn't there a page on Indian people (from India) there only is a Demographics of India page. Even though they might be of the same "race" they are still different ethnic groups. This page needs to be taken down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodashes ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
SamEv just because an article is well established does not make it right. Wikipedia isn't here to spread false information about subjects. Like I said before Cubans aren't a distinct ethnic group but a nationality. There are already way too many ignorant people in the world; please don't add to the confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodashes ( talk • contribs) 18:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I was frankly surprised to see people in the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Cuban who may have some notoriety in their own right, like Leonardo Padura, Daina Chaviano, or Carlos Acosta, and not see in that page people that were of great relevance like the World Chess Champion between 1921-1927 Jose Raul Capablanca, or Dr. Carlos J. Finlay, who was the first to postulate the theory that the Aedes Aegypti mosquito was the vector for the Yellow Fever. Nothing against Chaviano, Padura, or Acosta, but in my opinion they don't have the stature of those I mentioned, yet their photos appear in this page and Casablanca's and Finlay's don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12345rl ( talk • contribs) 15:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
The Cuban population in the U.S. was 1,094,811 inhabitants and Cuban Americans ( Cubans and their descendants in U.S. ) were 1,891,014 in 2011. Source: U.S. Census Bureau. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.172.119 ( talk) 05:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
65 percent of the population is Catholic,[27] but only 5% of that 60% Xx236 ( talk) 08:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
"European migrants, beginning with the early Spanish settlers, along with other Europeans arriving later such as the Portuguese and French"
The text claims Cuba receive waves of Portuguese and French settlers, however no sources are cited and I have no knowledge of any significant income of population from the aforementioned countries.
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It appears that on April 3, 2017 shortly after the population admixture information was introduced into the article from Marcheco‐Teruel et al. (2014), User:Revise504813 inserted false data which was never fixed...until now. Specifically, the original numbers and wording were slightly changed to distort what was being measured. For example, the original study found that self-identified white Cubans have on average 86% European ancestry. This information was changed to say that 91.4% of self-identified white Cubans are "fully European." As interesting as that information would be, as far as I can tell it's not in the source. Moreover, I don't think I have never seen a study that purported to measure what proportion of a given white and black population are "fully European" or "fully African" respectively. Moreover, while 91.4% of blanco Cubans being "fully European" sounds quite plausible, User:Revise504813's claim that 28.3% of negro Cubans are "fully African" is almost certainly false. In any case, the information that I restored is definitely in the source. DrQuinnEskimoWoman ( talk) 01:27, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Cuban-born people in the United States are not necessarily Cuban citizens. "Cuban people" is like every other article on groups: it refers to Cuban citizens, Cuban residents, and the Cuban diaspora. The reference used clearly states the number of Cuban-born in the US (not Cuban citizens - if you want to include, find a reference), and those who identify as Cuban (full or partial). The leader even states "Some Cubans do not treat their nationality as an ethnicity but as a citizenship with various ethnicities and national origins comprising the "Cuban people." As Cubans lose their citizenship when they take upon another, why then would you include them as Cubans if it is solely based on citizenship? Patapsco913 ( talk) 13:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
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There are mistakes in my initial comment. For me Cubans are only Cuban-born people (citizens or no) and others Cuban citizens. Persons born in U.S. are not Cubans, except if they are Cuban citizens. You have mistakes in your updates: 2,315,863 is total of Cuban Americans (total population with Cuban origin) on US Census Bureau: Hispanic or latino population by origin country. It includes 1,311,803 Cuban born + 1,004,060 Americans with Cuban ancestry. The Cubans in Spain in your source (Diario de Cuba) more than 124,000 are all Cuban-born persons, and include more than 60,000 Spanish citizens, no more Cuban citizens but they were born in Cuba and they are Cubans. Cgx8253. 10/21/2018.
see Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Venezuelans, Guyanese people, Zulu people, Americans (counts residents including non-citizens in tally), Thai people. Are you saying that Cuban Americans are not Cubans? Patapsco913 ( talk) 17:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
One of the small flag icons depict the Cuban flag with a lighter shade of blue.
I believe that the correct colours are darker. OMGShay 92 ( talk) 07:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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It seems strange that there isn't an article on Cubans. Some of the information found in the articles on Cuba and Cuban-Americans could perhaps be used to start it, following the standard format of nationality-articles. JdeJ 23:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
"British ... Scottish" - what are the Scottish if not British ? Why say British, but show the English flag ? And what about the Irish ?
How is this sort of thing normally done ? -- Beardo ( talk) 09:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Like the title says Cubans are not an ethnic group of their own. Its kind of like saying American people are from one ethnic group. If this was the case why isn't there a page on Indian people (from India) there only is a Demographics of India page. Even though they might be of the same "race" they are still different ethnic groups. This page needs to be taken down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodashes ( talk • contribs) 03:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
SamEv just because an article is well established does not make it right. Wikipedia isn't here to spread false information about subjects. Like I said before Cubans aren't a distinct ethnic group but a nationality. There are already way too many ignorant people in the world; please don't add to the confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nodashes ( talk • contribs) 18:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
I was frankly surprised to see people in the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Cuban who may have some notoriety in their own right, like Leonardo Padura, Daina Chaviano, or Carlos Acosta, and not see in that page people that were of great relevance like the World Chess Champion between 1921-1927 Jose Raul Capablanca, or Dr. Carlos J. Finlay, who was the first to postulate the theory that the Aedes Aegypti mosquito was the vector for the Yellow Fever. Nothing against Chaviano, Padura, or Acosta, but in my opinion they don't have the stature of those I mentioned, yet their photos appear in this page and Casablanca's and Finlay's don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12345rl ( talk • contribs) 15:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
The Cuban population in the U.S. was 1,094,811 inhabitants and Cuban Americans ( Cubans and their descendants in U.S. ) were 1,891,014 in 2011. Source: U.S. Census Bureau. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.172.119 ( talk) 05:31, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
65 percent of the population is Catholic,[27] but only 5% of that 60% Xx236 ( talk) 08:56, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
"European migrants, beginning with the early Spanish settlers, along with other Europeans arriving later such as the Portuguese and French"
The text claims Cuba receive waves of Portuguese and French settlers, however no sources are cited and I have no knowledge of any significant income of population from the aforementioned countries.
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It appears that on April 3, 2017 shortly after the population admixture information was introduced into the article from Marcheco‐Teruel et al. (2014), User:Revise504813 inserted false data which was never fixed...until now. Specifically, the original numbers and wording were slightly changed to distort what was being measured. For example, the original study found that self-identified white Cubans have on average 86% European ancestry. This information was changed to say that 91.4% of self-identified white Cubans are "fully European." As interesting as that information would be, as far as I can tell it's not in the source. Moreover, I don't think I have never seen a study that purported to measure what proportion of a given white and black population are "fully European" or "fully African" respectively. Moreover, while 91.4% of blanco Cubans being "fully European" sounds quite plausible, User:Revise504813's claim that 28.3% of negro Cubans are "fully African" is almost certainly false. In any case, the information that I restored is definitely in the source. DrQuinnEskimoWoman ( talk) 01:27, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Cuban-born people in the United States are not necessarily Cuban citizens. "Cuban people" is like every other article on groups: it refers to Cuban citizens, Cuban residents, and the Cuban diaspora. The reference used clearly states the number of Cuban-born in the US (not Cuban citizens - if you want to include, find a reference), and those who identify as Cuban (full or partial). The leader even states "Some Cubans do not treat their nationality as an ethnicity but as a citizenship with various ethnicities and national origins comprising the "Cuban people." As Cubans lose their citizenship when they take upon another, why then would you include them as Cubans if it is solely based on citizenship? Patapsco913 ( talk) 13:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
REPLY:
There are mistakes in my initial comment. For me Cubans are only Cuban-born people (citizens or no) and others Cuban citizens. Persons born in U.S. are not Cubans, except if they are Cuban citizens. You have mistakes in your updates: 2,315,863 is total of Cuban Americans (total population with Cuban origin) on US Census Bureau: Hispanic or latino population by origin country. It includes 1,311,803 Cuban born + 1,004,060 Americans with Cuban ancestry. The Cubans in Spain in your source (Diario de Cuba) more than 124,000 are all Cuban-born persons, and include more than 60,000 Spanish citizens, no more Cuban citizens but they were born in Cuba and they are Cubans. Cgx8253. 10/21/2018.
see Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Venezuelans, Guyanese people, Zulu people, Americans (counts residents including non-citizens in tally), Thai people. Are you saying that Cuban Americans are not Cubans? Patapsco913 ( talk) 17:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
One of the small flag icons depict the Cuban flag with a lighter shade of blue.
I believe that the correct colours are darker. OMGShay 92 ( talk) 07:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)