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@ Smallbones: I took the bold out of the lede here [1], as I think it just doesn't look right. Normally only the article title is bolded. I guess you must have added it back since then. Please explain. Seems to me this big bolded sentence violates weight or probably other policy as well. Thanks. Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 16:20, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I've added and copy edited a lot of material here. Before I started it was a real mess, random claims, interrupted with random denials. At least the claims of "Bitcoin is a bubble" are now clearly documented.
A few possible places to go further:
Hope this helps.
Smallbones( smalltalk) 18:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I propose to merge 2018 cryptocurrency crash into Cryptocurrency bubble. As suggested at Talk:2018 cryptocurrency crash. Џ 06:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
If this article is meant to describe cryptocurrency bubbles generally, then the bulk of the Bitcoin-related content here looks like a POV fork of material that really belongs at Bitcoin or a valid spinoff article such as Economics of bitcoin. I suggest a large-scale merge of this page's Bitcoin-related content, which seems reliably sourced, to either of those articles. This page could read something like:
winners of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences: Paul Krugman, Robert J. Shiller, Joseph Stiglitz, Richard Thaler, James Heckman, Thomas Sargent, Angus Deaton, and Oliver Hart; and by central bank officials including Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Janet Yellen, Agustin Carstens, Vítor Constâncio, and Nout Wellink.The investors Warren Buffett and George Soros have respectively characterized it as a "mirage" and a "bubble"; while the business executives Jack Ma and Jamie Dimon have called it a "bubble" and a "fraud", respectively.Bitcoin has been characterized as a speculative bubble by eight
See also Talk:Bitcoin#POV forking?. Thoughts? — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 00:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I think this could be of benefit to the article. Crypto currencies are sometimes compared to gold. And indeed there is "paper gold" with the same value as physical bars. Still with physical gold to back some of it up. With crypto currencies there is nothing that backs them up whatsoever. (not to my knowledge) Even if we assume all the crypto currencies are safe (even from the arrival of quantum computers) - safe but hollow. There are no central banks with gross national product and taxes behind the cryptos. All there is, is some kind of strange trust. And from where is that trust coming ? The block chain is just cryptography. And I can´t see a value based simply on that. A currency in general must be accepted by all within a certain geographical. A replacement for barter. Bitcoins has become more of a strange investment. The 99% use seems to be about a hope that the BTC will rise and rise vs real currencies. Whilst gold has a value in itself. Like this: if a XAU begins to fall and fall and fall vs USD,EUR and GBP, then eventually someone begins to think "whow how cheap gold has become" and it will be more and more expensive again, as people and investors buys again. That's the nature of gold. But has BTC and the other any similar kind of nature ? Doubt that. This issue should if possible become more examined and explained here, I hope. 188.148.98.50 ( talk) 00:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
The collapse area links to the Terra page, but the collapse area there links to the collapse area here, as "see also." Which should be the definitive one? Likeanechointheforest ( talk) 19:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
The section on bitcoin is dated, with the latest price info from 20 October 2021. More about the recent crypto crash should be added to this section. Anyone, anyone? Thanks! 98.155.8.5 ( talk) 22:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
If/when the 2021-2022 crypto crash bottoms out, it will probably need its own article assuming the crash is as bad as it looks. If things keep going up like they are now and all is happy then maybe not. Jamisonsupame ( talk) 03:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
it's irrelevant do you say or they say? Are more 400 billion dollars of irrelevant losses? Caused by FTX Bankruptcy! are they irrelevant? -- Peter39c ( talk) 00:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Should it not be comparing these two instead of pictures of Bitcoin price daily and Ethereum price daily? IceCuba ( talk) 08:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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@ Smallbones: I took the bold out of the lede here [1], as I think it just doesn't look right. Normally only the article title is bolded. I guess you must have added it back since then. Please explain. Seems to me this big bolded sentence violates weight or probably other policy as well. Thanks. Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 16:20, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I've added and copy edited a lot of material here. Before I started it was a real mess, random claims, interrupted with random denials. At least the claims of "Bitcoin is a bubble" are now clearly documented.
A few possible places to go further:
Hope this helps.
Smallbones( smalltalk) 18:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I propose to merge 2018 cryptocurrency crash into Cryptocurrency bubble. As suggested at Talk:2018 cryptocurrency crash. Џ 06:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
If this article is meant to describe cryptocurrency bubbles generally, then the bulk of the Bitcoin-related content here looks like a POV fork of material that really belongs at Bitcoin or a valid spinoff article such as Economics of bitcoin. I suggest a large-scale merge of this page's Bitcoin-related content, which seems reliably sourced, to either of those articles. This page could read something like:
winners of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences: Paul Krugman, Robert J. Shiller, Joseph Stiglitz, Richard Thaler, James Heckman, Thomas Sargent, Angus Deaton, and Oliver Hart; and by central bank officials including Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Janet Yellen, Agustin Carstens, Vítor Constâncio, and Nout Wellink.The investors Warren Buffett and George Soros have respectively characterized it as a "mirage" and a "bubble"; while the business executives Jack Ma and Jamie Dimon have called it a "bubble" and a "fraud", respectively.Bitcoin has been characterized as a speculative bubble by eight
See also Talk:Bitcoin#POV forking?. Thoughts? — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 00:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
I think this could be of benefit to the article. Crypto currencies are sometimes compared to gold. And indeed there is "paper gold" with the same value as physical bars. Still with physical gold to back some of it up. With crypto currencies there is nothing that backs them up whatsoever. (not to my knowledge) Even if we assume all the crypto currencies are safe (even from the arrival of quantum computers) - safe but hollow. There are no central banks with gross national product and taxes behind the cryptos. All there is, is some kind of strange trust. And from where is that trust coming ? The block chain is just cryptography. And I can´t see a value based simply on that. A currency in general must be accepted by all within a certain geographical. A replacement for barter. Bitcoins has become more of a strange investment. The 99% use seems to be about a hope that the BTC will rise and rise vs real currencies. Whilst gold has a value in itself. Like this: if a XAU begins to fall and fall and fall vs USD,EUR and GBP, then eventually someone begins to think "whow how cheap gold has become" and it will be more and more expensive again, as people and investors buys again. That's the nature of gold. But has BTC and the other any similar kind of nature ? Doubt that. This issue should if possible become more examined and explained here, I hope. 188.148.98.50 ( talk) 00:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
The collapse area links to the Terra page, but the collapse area there links to the collapse area here, as "see also." Which should be the definitive one? Likeanechointheforest ( talk) 19:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
The section on bitcoin is dated, with the latest price info from 20 October 2021. More about the recent crypto crash should be added to this section. Anyone, anyone? Thanks! 98.155.8.5 ( talk) 22:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
If/when the 2021-2022 crypto crash bottoms out, it will probably need its own article assuming the crash is as bad as it looks. If things keep going up like they are now and all is happy then maybe not. Jamisonsupame ( talk) 03:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
it's irrelevant do you say or they say? Are more 400 billion dollars of irrelevant losses? Caused by FTX Bankruptcy! are they irrelevant? -- Peter39c ( talk) 00:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Should it not be comparing these two instead of pictures of Bitcoin price daily and Ethereum price daily? IceCuba ( talk) 08:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)