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Its ridiculous to not mention the sarah brightman's contribution to the classical crossover If you dont know, she is considered the "Queen of classical crossover" thats why she sold more albums than any other soprano how ignorant could be the people —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.219.57.226 ( talk) 22:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
IceDragon64 ( talk) 11:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Hyacinth 11:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
There should be an article on "crossover jazz", as distinct from "fusion." Dogru144 00:36, 7 July 2006
I think the reference to pop music in the 80s should be toned down as it appears to be a marketing gimmick to include the names of people's favourite bands and obtain credit for "inventing" a new trend rather than an objective assessment of the phenomenon as such. The term crossover was certainly being used in the jazz world in 1975 and I would hazard a guess it was being used to refer to Miles Davis before that and Weather Report, etc. but I have no documentation to back it up. 83.191.63.182 19:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the bands listed here are out of sequence. For instance, DRI pre-dated both Slayer and Metallica by a good 5 years, at a time when the term "crossover" hadn't yet been widely applied to hardcore/metal blending. Slayer in particular were hugely influenced by DRI, Minor Threat, and other fast hardcore bands, and are usually cited as the classic example of a crossover band. Therefore, it's incorrect to say they are a metal band whose sound "crossover" bands combined with hardcore influences to create the crossover genre. Metallica were also heavily influenced by such punk/hardcore groups as Discharge, Motorhead, and the Misfits, although their status as a crossover band is more dubious.
I really don't like the existence of this section. I think it is just asking for promotion of one's own favorite group that could be considered crossover. Any reliable, objective basis for determining "top" or "best" would be possible to articulate in more specific, objective terms, such as album sales or whatnot. I'm thinking I will be bold and remove this section in a day or two unless someone objects. - GlamdringCookies 17:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
So an unregistered user made a big addition that was very unencyclopedically written and I didn't read it enough to determine whether it was very relevant or not. But I felt bad removing it, because they clearly spent a lot of time writing it. So here it is: - GlamdringCookies 01:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
If this is to be the one big example in the opening paragraphs, the paragraph needs to explain exactly what it has crossed over from and to, bearing in mind that the intro has already stated that going from a specialist chart into a pop chart is not really crossing over. IceDragon64 ( talk) 11:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
How is LeAnn Rimes the "biggest crossover"? Selena's single Dreaming of You sold over 3 million copies her albums sold over 6 million in one year. Tagging for citation. AJona1992 ( talk) 23:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it is correct to start this article with charts. Here are some of definitions for the word "crossover" applied for music:
A musician, a band, a group, an ensamble, an orchestra can broaden his audience for example at concerts, shows, and festivals, but not in the charts. I do not think it is fair to start the article
in the way it is right now.
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Its ridiculous to not mention the sarah brightman's contribution to the classical crossover If you dont know, she is considered the "Queen of classical crossover" thats why she sold more albums than any other soprano how ignorant could be the people —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.219.57.226 ( talk) 22:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
IceDragon64 ( talk) 11:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Hyacinth 11:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
There should be an article on "crossover jazz", as distinct from "fusion." Dogru144 00:36, 7 July 2006
I think the reference to pop music in the 80s should be toned down as it appears to be a marketing gimmick to include the names of people's favourite bands and obtain credit for "inventing" a new trend rather than an objective assessment of the phenomenon as such. The term crossover was certainly being used in the jazz world in 1975 and I would hazard a guess it was being used to refer to Miles Davis before that and Weather Report, etc. but I have no documentation to back it up. 83.191.63.182 19:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the bands listed here are out of sequence. For instance, DRI pre-dated both Slayer and Metallica by a good 5 years, at a time when the term "crossover" hadn't yet been widely applied to hardcore/metal blending. Slayer in particular were hugely influenced by DRI, Minor Threat, and other fast hardcore bands, and are usually cited as the classic example of a crossover band. Therefore, it's incorrect to say they are a metal band whose sound "crossover" bands combined with hardcore influences to create the crossover genre. Metallica were also heavily influenced by such punk/hardcore groups as Discharge, Motorhead, and the Misfits, although their status as a crossover band is more dubious.
I really don't like the existence of this section. I think it is just asking for promotion of one's own favorite group that could be considered crossover. Any reliable, objective basis for determining "top" or "best" would be possible to articulate in more specific, objective terms, such as album sales or whatnot. I'm thinking I will be bold and remove this section in a day or two unless someone objects. - GlamdringCookies 17:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
So an unregistered user made a big addition that was very unencyclopedically written and I didn't read it enough to determine whether it was very relevant or not. But I felt bad removing it, because they clearly spent a lot of time writing it. So here it is: - GlamdringCookies 01:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
If this is to be the one big example in the opening paragraphs, the paragraph needs to explain exactly what it has crossed over from and to, bearing in mind that the intro has already stated that going from a specialist chart into a pop chart is not really crossing over. IceDragon64 ( talk) 11:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
How is LeAnn Rimes the "biggest crossover"? Selena's single Dreaming of You sold over 3 million copies her albums sold over 6 million in one year. Tagging for citation. AJona1992 ( talk) 23:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it is correct to start this article with charts. Here are some of definitions for the word "crossover" applied for music:
A musician, a band, a group, an ensamble, an orchestra can broaden his audience for example at concerts, shows, and festivals, but not in the charts. I do not think it is fair to start the article
in the way it is right now.
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