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I have updated and improved the ricket (sport) page after the consensus agreed on the cricket/temp page with dmmaus, aloan and elmsworth. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:19, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
Excellent work, everyone! I've been busy the past few days, but I notice things have bubbled along nicely without me. :-) I still think "Differences between Test matches and ODIs" should be moved down to the "Forms of cricket" section, though. Does anyone have a strong objection? And it's so nice to see that annoying "(sport)" gone once and for all! -- dmmaus 06:43, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
From the edit history: "pace bowlers is the politically correct term" - is it? -- ALoan (Talk) 20:37, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I've added a huge list of terms to the cricket terminology page. I found it difficult to express the terms "length" and "fine", so corrections are needed. Also wanted to clarify the chip shot and slice shot (used to describe Anil Kumble's shots mostly). Also wanted to know if bat-pad can be out caught. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:38, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
I've nominated this as a featured article. Thorough guide to a most foreign subject to we Americans. Kudos to the authors of it. PedanticallySpeaking 20:05, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
I feel that the structure shouldn't be tampered with at this moment. Player designations are batsmen, bowlers and fielders.
Captains, runners and substitutes aren't a designation
and so have delinked it. Mentioning it under players and officials gives the wrong idea. Dismissals in cricket should be a major topic, as the match revolves around it.
Also innings is also used as the singular form. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:42, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
The "Batting section mentions: Batsmen are required to stand with some part of their body between the batting crease and the wickets behind.
Is this true? I have seen some batsmen in international matches (usually ODI) taking guard a foot outside the crease. -- ashwatha 06:12, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I will be making major structural updates in about 22 hours time. As of now matter has to be cut down as the page is approaching 32 kb. Also I will be incorporating some changes as suggested in the FA. Please refrain from making structural changes or reverts. [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:56, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
After considerable excogitation, I have modified the structure of the page. Of course it is not easy for those who have knowledge of the game put themselves in the shoes of those without any knowledge of the sport; hence constructive criticism is always a bonus. Many parts of the page are difficult to really construct as it becomes the classic case of the chicken and the egg. Anyways, I hope my edit has touched on all the points suggested and acquiesced by all.
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:37, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
Somewhere, this article should touch upon the difference between bowling and throwing -- i.e. the non-straightening of the arm in the delivery. GWO
Quoted text: A bowler delivers the ball toward the batsmen, using what is known as a bowling action, i.e. his arm must not straighten during the delivery at the elbow. If he straightens his arm in any manner, it is an illegal throw and the delivery is called a no-ball.
I feel that this is misleading. It would seem that a bowler is allowed to have have his arm bent at the elbow, but not straighten it.
As far as my knowledge goes:
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:08, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:21, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
Subheadings should be marked as such. The table of contents should be exactly that - if the article is long then so is the TOC - so what? It can be hidden if you really don't want it. If they're important enough to be made sub-headings they're important enough to be in the TOC. Secondly, as I've discussed with User_talk:Gareth_Owen putting a float:right table around a ground of images is uneccessary in the new skin. This was a huge issue with the older skins where people were constantly trying to space images out so they wouldn't overlap (which would screw up when you made the window wider of course). Now that is has been fixed - this style of just putting images next to each other and having them auto-stack is being used all over the place. The solution is not to find all these cases and use the table hack - but to get the old skins fixed. ed g2s • talk 11:02, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Here's another explaination for all those who trawl this page the first time. It is in terms of basketball.
Two friends Jay and Kay are playing basketball in these two formats.
Jay is given 50 consecutive attempts to get as many points as he can. However if he commits 10 fouls, it's all over for him and its Kay's turn. Kay meanwhile has to try and block Jay from scoring and also try to make Jay foul. After setting the target the roles are reversed and Kay has to beat the set target.
Here:
Jay has an unlimited number of consecutive attempts. If he has mustered a large total without getting 10 fouls, he may stop and ask Kay to play. Kay may declare if he overtakes Jay's score by a huge margin. After a declaration or 10 fouls, Jay may try and first clear up the deficiency (if any) and then try to post a challenging total. After Jay is done, by way of fouls or declaration, Kay tries to overtake the set total. Total time given is 50 minutes. If after 50 minutes, the game is not over, it is drawn.
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:24, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
I remember watching an episode of Mind your Language sometime in 1997 and during the talks about soccer when the Itallian and Spanish guys were fighting the talk shifted to UK's national sport. The English teacher said (with pride) Cricket is UK's national sport (or was it England's.) So is it not? I could not find UK's national sport anywhere. What is it? -- Ankur 07:47, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
What is the exact fielding position that most commentators refer to as 45? is it point ot square-leg? [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:06, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
|/Archive 3]].
I have updated and improved the ricket (sport) page after the consensus agreed on the cricket/temp page with dmmaus, aloan and elmsworth. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:19, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
Excellent work, everyone! I've been busy the past few days, but I notice things have bubbled along nicely without me. :-) I still think "Differences between Test matches and ODIs" should be moved down to the "Forms of cricket" section, though. Does anyone have a strong objection? And it's so nice to see that annoying "(sport)" gone once and for all! -- dmmaus 06:43, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
From the edit history: "pace bowlers is the politically correct term" - is it? -- ALoan (Talk) 20:37, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I've added a huge list of terms to the cricket terminology page. I found it difficult to express the terms "length" and "fine", so corrections are needed. Also wanted to clarify the chip shot and slice shot (used to describe Anil Kumble's shots mostly). Also wanted to know if bat-pad can be out caught. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:38, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
I've nominated this as a featured article. Thorough guide to a most foreign subject to we Americans. Kudos to the authors of it. PedanticallySpeaking 20:05, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
I feel that the structure shouldn't be tampered with at this moment. Player designations are batsmen, bowlers and fielders.
Captains, runners and substitutes aren't a designation
and so have delinked it. Mentioning it under players and officials gives the wrong idea. Dismissals in cricket should be a major topic, as the match revolves around it.
Also innings is also used as the singular form. [[User:Nichalp|¶ nichalp | Talk]] 20:42, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
The "Batting section mentions: Batsmen are required to stand with some part of their body between the batting crease and the wickets behind.
Is this true? I have seen some batsmen in international matches (usually ODI) taking guard a foot outside the crease. -- ashwatha 06:12, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I will be making major structural updates in about 22 hours time. As of now matter has to be cut down as the page is approaching 32 kb. Also I will be incorporating some changes as suggested in the FA. Please refrain from making structural changes or reverts. [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:56, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
After considerable excogitation, I have modified the structure of the page. Of course it is not easy for those who have knowledge of the game put themselves in the shoes of those without any knowledge of the sport; hence constructive criticism is always a bonus. Many parts of the page are difficult to really construct as it becomes the classic case of the chicken and the egg. Anyways, I hope my edit has touched on all the points suggested and acquiesced by all.
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:37, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)
Somewhere, this article should touch upon the difference between bowling and throwing -- i.e. the non-straightening of the arm in the delivery. GWO
Quoted text: A bowler delivers the ball toward the batsmen, using what is known as a bowling action, i.e. his arm must not straighten during the delivery at the elbow. If he straightens his arm in any manner, it is an illegal throw and the delivery is called a no-ball.
I feel that this is misleading. It would seem that a bowler is allowed to have have his arm bent at the elbow, but not straighten it.
As far as my knowledge goes:
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:08, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 19:21, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)
Subheadings should be marked as such. The table of contents should be exactly that - if the article is long then so is the TOC - so what? It can be hidden if you really don't want it. If they're important enough to be made sub-headings they're important enough to be in the TOC. Secondly, as I've discussed with User_talk:Gareth_Owen putting a float:right table around a ground of images is uneccessary in the new skin. This was a huge issue with the older skins where people were constantly trying to space images out so they wouldn't overlap (which would screw up when you made the window wider of course). Now that is has been fixed - this style of just putting images next to each other and having them auto-stack is being used all over the place. The solution is not to find all these cases and use the table hack - but to get the old skins fixed. ed g2s • talk 11:02, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Here's another explaination for all those who trawl this page the first time. It is in terms of basketball.
Two friends Jay and Kay are playing basketball in these two formats.
Jay is given 50 consecutive attempts to get as many points as he can. However if he commits 10 fouls, it's all over for him and its Kay's turn. Kay meanwhile has to try and block Jay from scoring and also try to make Jay foul. After setting the target the roles are reversed and Kay has to beat the set target.
Here:
Jay has an unlimited number of consecutive attempts. If he has mustered a large total without getting 10 fouls, he may stop and ask Kay to play. Kay may declare if he overtakes Jay's score by a huge margin. After a declaration or 10 fouls, Jay may try and first clear up the deficiency (if any) and then try to post a challenging total. After Jay is done, by way of fouls or declaration, Kay tries to overtake the set total. Total time given is 50 minutes. If after 50 minutes, the game is not over, it is drawn.
[[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:24, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
I remember watching an episode of Mind your Language sometime in 1997 and during the talks about soccer when the Itallian and Spanish guys were fighting the talk shifted to UK's national sport. The English teacher said (with pride) Cricket is UK's national sport (or was it England's.) So is it not? I could not find UK's national sport anywhere. What is it? -- Ankur 07:47, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
What is the exact fielding position that most commentators refer to as 45? is it point ot square-leg? [[User:Nichalp|¶ ɳȉčḩåḽṗ | ✉]] 20:06, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)