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Heraldry has been nominated to be improved by Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. Vote for this article there if you want to contribute. -- Fenice 19:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I removed this image:
[[Image:Crest.jpg]]
since it shows only a shield and a motto scroll, and (as the text says) use of the word "crest" to mean a shield is inaccurate. There are many full heraldic achievements on Wikipedia, and we may be able to cut a crest out of one of them and use it as an example on this article. 66.92.237.111 01:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
What's a familiar Old World bird that has a crest? (I'm American.) — Tamfang 07:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed the "family crest" item with the intention of adding something similar to Heraldry. The language was a bit misleading: "arms and crest are granted to one person only" implies that they cannot be inherited. — Tamfang 07:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
What is the source of the bald statement that a mon is a crest? I think that by definition it is not a crest. It seems to be a symbol of some kind. Kittybrewster 13:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
"While it is not strictly correct, there is a convention that a crest may be displayed within a belt and buckle by persons other than its legal bearer, signifying non-ownership."
Is this true anywhere outside of Scotland? If it isn't then we should be more specific but I won't edit as it may exist somewhere else. Alci12 15:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Reading this article today I felt that it did not go far enough. I would like to add a paragraph on the wave of directories of crests published in the 19th and early 20th centuries (Burkes, Fairbairns and Fox Davies et al).
How best to go about doing this? Should I draft something and display it on this discussion page for comment first? This is the first time that I have ventured into Wiki editing and so please forgive my ignorance of procedures.
Many thanks Capistrum ( talk) 20:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Capistrum
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1. Sorry, I don't understand how this link is suspicious. It works fine for me.
2. I've expanded the lead somewhat.
3. Done (though I don't see how this helps?).
4. The spelling "mediaeval" is generally preferred in British English, as opposed to the American "medieval"; I've linked the word to Middle Ages.
5. "Helm" and "helmet" are synonyms, but the former term is generally preferred in heraldry, e.g. George Eve uses "helm".
6. See above.
7. Resolved.
8. I think "disembodied" is a better term in this context; "dismembered" suggests that the hand has been ripped off from the arm.
9. The hand is the thing issuing from the clouds; I thought the text made that clear.
10. I have removed a couple of the images.
11. Can I ask why? If the images are allowed to remain their default sizes, then some of them end up so small that the details can't be made out.
– Zacwill16 ( talk) 17:57, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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Viking helmets were often adorned with wings
Surely, this is the preserve of Wagnerian fantasy? Nuttyskin ( talk) 11:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I notice that we refer to heraldic logos used by football clubs as “crests.” This sense appears in the Wiktionary definition of crest, marked “informal.”
Given this, should we soften the pronouncement that using the term crest to refer to a coat or achievement of arms is erroneous? JulieKahan ( talk) 17:17, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Heraldry has been nominated to be improved by Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. Vote for this article there if you want to contribute. -- Fenice 19:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
I removed this image:
[[Image:Crest.jpg]]
since it shows only a shield and a motto scroll, and (as the text says) use of the word "crest" to mean a shield is inaccurate. There are many full heraldic achievements on Wikipedia, and we may be able to cut a crest out of one of them and use it as an example on this article. 66.92.237.111 01:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
What's a familiar Old World bird that has a crest? (I'm American.) — Tamfang 07:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I removed the "family crest" item with the intention of adding something similar to Heraldry. The language was a bit misleading: "arms and crest are granted to one person only" implies that they cannot be inherited. — Tamfang 07:22, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
What is the source of the bald statement that a mon is a crest? I think that by definition it is not a crest. It seems to be a symbol of some kind. Kittybrewster 13:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
"While it is not strictly correct, there is a convention that a crest may be displayed within a belt and buckle by persons other than its legal bearer, signifying non-ownership."
Is this true anywhere outside of Scotland? If it isn't then we should be more specific but I won't edit as it may exist somewhere else. Alci12 15:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Reading this article today I felt that it did not go far enough. I would like to add a paragraph on the wave of directories of crests published in the 19th and early 20th centuries (Burkes, Fairbairns and Fox Davies et al).
How best to go about doing this? Should I draft something and display it on this discussion page for comment first? This is the first time that I have ventured into Wiki editing and so please forgive my ignorance of procedures.
Many thanks Capistrum ( talk) 20:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Capistrum
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Reviewer: Calvin999 ( talk · contribs) 10:05, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
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On hold for 7 days. — Calvin999 16:02, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
1. Sorry, I don't understand how this link is suspicious. It works fine for me.
2. I've expanded the lead somewhat.
3. Done (though I don't see how this helps?).
4. The spelling "mediaeval" is generally preferred in British English, as opposed to the American "medieval"; I've linked the word to Middle Ages.
5. "Helm" and "helmet" are synonyms, but the former term is generally preferred in heraldry, e.g. George Eve uses "helm".
6. See above.
7. Resolved.
8. I think "disembodied" is a better term in this context; "dismembered" suggests that the hand has been ripped off from the arm.
9. The hand is the thing issuing from the clouds; I thought the text made that clear.
10. I have removed a couple of the images.
11. Can I ask why? If the images are allowed to remain their default sizes, then some of them end up so small that the details can't be made out.
– Zacwill16 ( talk) 17:57, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Passing. — Calvin999 10:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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Viking helmets were often adorned with wings
Surely, this is the preserve of Wagnerian fantasy? Nuttyskin ( talk) 11:25, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I notice that we refer to heraldic logos used by football clubs as “crests.” This sense appears in the Wiktionary definition of crest, marked “informal.”
Given this, should we soften the pronouncement that using the term crest to refer to a coat or achievement of arms is erroneous? JulieKahan ( talk) 17:17, 5 December 2023 (UTC)