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It's the following sentence from the section on the religious significance of gomutra:
In Hinduism, cow urine has a special significance as a drink and colas are made out of it in India.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/hindu-worshippers-drink-cow-urine-3017661 |title=Pictured: Indian Hindu worshippers drink COW URINE to help prevent cancer |work=Mirror |author=Ben Burrows |date=13 January 2014 |accessdate=27 December 2015}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4592608/India-makes-cola-from-cow-urine.html |title=India makes cola from cow urine |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |author=Dean Nelson |date=11 February 2009 |accessdate=27 December 2015}}</ref>
There are two statements here: one is about its use as a cola alternative: this doesn't belong in the section on religion and there's also a whole paragraph about it in the next section. No need to repeat it. The second statement is about its special significance in Hinduism. This is supposed to be backed up by the Mirror article, but all this article talks about is a bunch of people who drink it for its supposed health benefits. The word "cult" is used here figuratively. There isn't anything in the article to support any religious overtones in the whole thing. Uanfala ( talk) 16:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Unless the categories (like "Agriculture in India", "pseudoscience") are backed by reliable sources then only you should include them. I removed a nearly empty template [1] and other one where the sock had linked this article. [2] D4iNa4 ( talk) 18:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed lot of hoaxes and pseudoscience is being promoted here. ਗੁਰਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ 06:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gillgurbir89 ( talk • contribs)
Will contain prospective sources. ∯WBG converse 14:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry I had to undo your edits, since they were unsourced. please feel free to add them back along with reliable sources. DBig Xrayᗙ 06:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. I've gone ahead and made some minor changes to the lede post move to reflect the updated title. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 05:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Gomutra → Cow urine – Just about every reference uses "cow urine". There are also a few sentences about its usage in Nigeria where it's not known as "Gomutra". 67.149.246.163 ( talk) 19:44, 18 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru ( talk) 12:28, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Roxy the dog, LuckyLouie Are you guys even reading the sources before restoring edits by a blocked sock containing irrelevant content unsupported by sources?
How do any of these inferior sources support "researchers debunk any other claim of curing diseases and consider it pseudo-science"? They don't. There have been enough researches and they don't conclusively reject cow urine so far.
Since the article has been that way for this long, any controversial changes must require consensus, not edit warring. 2402:3A80:8AC:7F37:66AB:7E76:BE86:A45B ( talk) 14:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Ivanvector as the admin blocking Roxy last time, can you take a look at this misrepresentation of sources and unresponsive attitude? 2402:3A80:8AC:7F37:66AB:7E76:BE86:A45B ( talk) 14:26, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Ah, OK, here is the background for the current kerfluffle at this article. Basically, it seems the Indian government wants to promote belief in the medical benefits of cow urine/cow dung, with a majority of scientists in that country refusing to cooperate, citing zero scientific evidence for its efficacy [6]. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 17:30, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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Regarding the removal of "Ayurvedic medicine" from the image caption: there isn't any historical India-centric cow urine "treatment" outside of Ayurvedic medicine. Even the detailed information contained in the original image file [7] notes that the image was part of an exhibition called “Ayurvedic Man: Encounters with Indian medicine”, so I'm not sure what the justification is for removing the link from the image caption. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 15:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Since many Hindutva leaders are claiming cow urine as some kind of elixir by putting forth this US Patents as argument, this pseudoscience need to be demolished by giving detailed facts and explanations.-- Jirdawanasingh ( talk) 23:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
US Patents
The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has granted patents claiming novel uses for cow urine. [1] [2] These patents were granted to an Indian innovation which claims that cow urine can make antibiotics, anti-fungal agents and also anti-cancer drugs more effective. The patents are in the name of Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), in collaboration with, Gau Vigyan Anusandhan Kendra.
The USPTO does not recognise or validate the claims. [3] The granting of patents only means that they recognise CSIR’s rights over them. The legitimacy of claims of medicinal properties and therapeutic benefits of cow urine is a debated issue. It is not patents but the results from animal studies and clinical trials in humans which would attest the effectiveness. There are no animal studies and human clinical trials and panchagavya ( cow dung, cow urine and cow milk) has not been rigorously tested even on cells lines (in vitro).
There are no peer-reviewed and endorsed scientific basis for the claimed medical benefits and thus these are categorized as pseudo-science. [4] [5]
References
cowpatentus
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).
The article currently has a section about a single study where diesel emulsion was made with urine instead of water. It had similar results to using water, which makes up 95% of cow urine. I've removed it as trivia, but another editor reverted saying it is an important aspect of cow urine. I couldn't find any secondary sources discussing this though, so I suspect this is a minor aspect of cow urine. I believe this section should be removed. I invite @ Capitals00: to discuss why diesel emulsions are important here. Big Money Threepwood ( talk) 01:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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It's the following sentence from the section on the religious significance of gomutra:
In Hinduism, cow urine has a special significance as a drink and colas are made out of it in India.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/hindu-worshippers-drink-cow-urine-3017661 |title=Pictured: Indian Hindu worshippers drink COW URINE to help prevent cancer |work=Mirror |author=Ben Burrows |date=13 January 2014 |accessdate=27 December 2015}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4592608/India-makes-cola-from-cow-urine.html |title=India makes cola from cow urine |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |author=Dean Nelson |date=11 February 2009 |accessdate=27 December 2015}}</ref>
There are two statements here: one is about its use as a cola alternative: this doesn't belong in the section on religion and there's also a whole paragraph about it in the next section. No need to repeat it. The second statement is about its special significance in Hinduism. This is supposed to be backed up by the Mirror article, but all this article talks about is a bunch of people who drink it for its supposed health benefits. The word "cult" is used here figuratively. There isn't anything in the article to support any religious overtones in the whole thing. Uanfala ( talk) 16:57, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
Unless the categories (like "Agriculture in India", "pseudoscience") are backed by reliable sources then only you should include them. I removed a nearly empty template [1] and other one where the sock had linked this article. [2] D4iNa4 ( talk) 18:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
I've noticed lot of hoaxes and pseudoscience is being promoted here. ਗੁਰਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ 06:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gillgurbir89 ( talk • contribs)
Will contain prospective sources. ∯WBG converse 14:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry I had to undo your edits, since they were unsourced. please feel free to add them back along with reliable sources. DBig Xrayᗙ 06:39, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. I've gone ahead and made some minor changes to the lede post move to reflect the updated title. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 05:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
Gomutra → Cow urine – Just about every reference uses "cow urine". There are also a few sentences about its usage in Nigeria where it's not known as "Gomutra". 67.149.246.163 ( talk) 19:44, 18 August 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru ( talk) 12:28, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Roxy the dog, LuckyLouie Are you guys even reading the sources before restoring edits by a blocked sock containing irrelevant content unsupported by sources?
How do any of these inferior sources support "researchers debunk any other claim of curing diseases and consider it pseudo-science"? They don't. There have been enough researches and they don't conclusively reject cow urine so far.
Since the article has been that way for this long, any controversial changes must require consensus, not edit warring. 2402:3A80:8AC:7F37:66AB:7E76:BE86:A45B ( talk) 14:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Ivanvector as the admin blocking Roxy last time, can you take a look at this misrepresentation of sources and unresponsive attitude? 2402:3A80:8AC:7F37:66AB:7E76:BE86:A45B ( talk) 14:26, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Ah, OK, here is the background for the current kerfluffle at this article. Basically, it seems the Indian government wants to promote belief in the medical benefits of cow urine/cow dung, with a majority of scientists in that country refusing to cooperate, citing zero scientific evidence for its efficacy [6]. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 17:30, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Describe the Gaunyl:
Regarding the removal of "Ayurvedic medicine" from the image caption: there isn't any historical India-centric cow urine "treatment" outside of Ayurvedic medicine. Even the detailed information contained in the original image file [7] notes that the image was part of an exhibition called “Ayurvedic Man: Encounters with Indian medicine”, so I'm not sure what the justification is for removing the link from the image caption. - LuckyLouie ( talk) 15:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Since many Hindutva leaders are claiming cow urine as some kind of elixir by putting forth this US Patents as argument, this pseudoscience need to be demolished by giving detailed facts and explanations.-- Jirdawanasingh ( talk) 23:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
US Patents
The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has granted patents claiming novel uses for cow urine. [1] [2] These patents were granted to an Indian innovation which claims that cow urine can make antibiotics, anti-fungal agents and also anti-cancer drugs more effective. The patents are in the name of Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), in collaboration with, Gau Vigyan Anusandhan Kendra.
The USPTO does not recognise or validate the claims. [3] The granting of patents only means that they recognise CSIR’s rights over them. The legitimacy of claims of medicinal properties and therapeutic benefits of cow urine is a debated issue. It is not patents but the results from animal studies and clinical trials in humans which would attest the effectiveness. There are no animal studies and human clinical trials and panchagavya ( cow dung, cow urine and cow milk) has not been rigorously tested even on cells lines (in vitro).
There are no peer-reviewed and endorsed scientific basis for the claimed medical benefits and thus these are categorized as pseudo-science. [4] [5]
References
cowpatentus
was invoked but never defined (see the
help page).
The article currently has a section about a single study where diesel emulsion was made with urine instead of water. It had similar results to using water, which makes up 95% of cow urine. I've removed it as trivia, but another editor reverted saying it is an important aspect of cow urine. I couldn't find any secondary sources discussing this though, so I suspect this is a minor aspect of cow urine. I believe this section should be removed. I invite @ Capitals00: to discuss why diesel emulsions are important here. Big Money Threepwood ( talk) 01:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)