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since, AFAIK, counties in N. America all have names with the format "X County", and not "County X" as in Ireland. -- 194.73.118.77 10:53, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
Why the county crest in irish? EIRE across it? County Down is in Northern Ireland and the UK. Any crest should be in English. 86.131.202.57 23:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Well I'm guessing that this is some kind of historical crest, but if so, it should be clarified as such. -- feline1 09:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Image:Gaelic Athletic Association.png Image:Downnewcrest.jpg
You appear to have found the correct heraldic coat-of-arms for Down, so that should certainly be the one used in the article. I wouldn't worry about the fact that counties in NornIrond are no longer used for local government administration - they are still quite ubiquitously recognised by everyone who lives in the country (much more so that the local government districts - I'd be amazed if you could find me someone who could rhyme off the names of all of those!), and if we have an article about a historical county, we can surely show its historical coat of arms....-- feline1 23:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Would this crest be a more suitable one? Image:Down_Crest.gif ( Thebdogg 22:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC))
It is just a little peculiar and trolling to change metric to imperial as this has been the consensus since just about anyone can remember in these articles. Additionally all other infoboxes for Northern Ireland counties use metric only. Hopefully not another revert war. Djegan 17:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry Mal/Setanta747 unless you prove you have a valid case its not going to change. Anyway your only converting metric to imperial. Sigh. Their is a consensus here for metric firsly, put imperial secondly of you wish. Thats it. If you are not happy take another wikiholiday. Djegan 10:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I just removed the reference to the county being previously known as "County St Mirren". It was added by an anon IP in February. The IP has only made a handful of edits, mostly vandalism. Also I can find *absolutely* no evidence to the county ever bearing the name. Lozleader 09:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded a newer county map on par with the county maps for counties of ireland. these maps highlights the position of the county within the island of Ireland as well as Northern Ireland thus satisfying the pattern shown for the other county maps. I am aware that the other maps was just of Northern Ireland counties, however the location of the county on an "island-wide" basis is more beneficial to tourists and is a compromise that should satisfy both Nationalists and Unionists. -- RÓNÁN "Caint / Talk" 17:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
One of the problems with the most recent maps ( for instance) is that one might have validly believed that Northern Ireland was an island entirely surrounded by water. It would be a good idea, as a miniumum, to at least imply their is an independent and separate political entity to the south and west as indicated on some other mapping styles ( for instance as in the U.S.). Djegan 20:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone please elaborate on the apparent earthquake in Down on 27 February 2008? Stampede1961 ( talk) 02:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
this has come up in other articles re. irish naming convention, but if the translation to english is 'county OF the fort', shouldn't the irish be 'contae na duin'? my limited irish translates 'contae an duin' as 'county the fort'. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 02:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussion ongoing about the locator maps for Northern Ireland counties — see
here.
~Asarlaí
19:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Population of County Down cannot be determined absolute as information in the census is no longer collected on a county basis. However, a relatively reliable estimate can be made using the figures and maps provided by the Ordnance Survey and the fingures from the 2001 Census freely available from NISRA. Despite Belfast, Lisburn, Newry & Mourne and Craigavon council areas all crossing the county boundaries, the electoral wards within them tend not to. In the small amount of cases where the Electoral Wards do cross into County Antrim or County Armagh, the Census Output Areas serve as a yet smaller geographical breakdown of the figures. In certain circumstances these Census Output Areas do cross the border and I have chosen to only select those which the majority of the Area is within County Down. If anyone has any queries or suggestions please get in contact. I'm going to replace the 489,000 number which has not yet been sourced at the time of writing. The Wikipedia article for County Cork states that the population of that county in 2006 was 481,294 which is lower than both 492,840 and 489,000 and so County Down seems to be the third, rather than the fourth largest county in Ireland. Cuirfear fáilte roimh chomhfhreagras i nGaeilge. Correspondance in Irish is welcomed. D.de.loinsigh ( talk) 19:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
TOTAL: 492840 D.de.loinsigh ( talk) 19:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
What is it? Curiously, this article doesn't say. 79.97.154.238 ( talk) 19:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Just like to point out that the map on the page is incorrect in that it shows east belfast to be a part of antrim.. the lagan is the border. Ive seen many other places that make this same mistake and i cant work out why. Eleutherius ( talk) 00:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the boundary may have been changed in the late 19th century, but people still go with the old usage. 94.194.221.149 ( talk) 19:50, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
As I've mentioned before on this page (see "Population of County Down in the 2001 Census") one cannot be certain as to the exact population of any county in Northern Ireland as statistics are not collected on a county basis anymore - rather district council, electoral wards, Westminster constituencies etc. are prefered. Below is an updated account of my relatively reliable estimate based on the recently released detailed breakdown in the figures from the 2011 UK Census. I have used exactly the same process as last time. No area included last time (when, in 2010, I did this same culculation for the 2001 census) has been left out this time, and vice versa.
The only thing that has changed is the name used by the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency to its smallest geographic area of record; what used to be called a "census output area" is now called a "small area". But these are exactly the same entity - their boundaries have not changed. However, as part of this change their code identier has changed also. For ease of reference I have given both below. The order is the same as last time (despite the fact that these new codes might suggest a new order be adopted).
In brief County Down had an appoximate population of 492,840 in 2001 according to the UK Census of that year. The approximate corresponding figure from the 2011 UK Census is 531,665. Regarding County Cork: again County Down appears to be the third, rather than the fourth, largest county on the island of Ireland in terms of population. County Cork had a population of 518,128 in the Republic of Ireland's 2011 Census.
As previously, any queries or suggestions are most welcome. Cuirfear fáilte roimh chomhfhreagras i nGaeilge. Correspondance in Irish is welcomed.
TOTAL: 531665 D.de.loinsigh ( talk • contribs) 03:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The sentence "The county was archaically called Downshire" seems unsatisfactory. The marquisate of Downshire is still a current peerage, and there is a hotel of that name in Banbridge, but the adjective "archaic" means not simply "disused" but "ancient". I'm also unsure whether "Downshire" was exclusively used at any point, or whether its use was always contemporaneous with "County Down". I would propose to replace the sentence with "A former name for the county was Downshire". Deipnosophista ( talk) 12:01, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Ignorant outsider here: is there any kind of county-level government or administration? If so, this should be added to the article. If not, it's worth pointing out, since in general one would expect an administrative division like a county to correspond to some level of government. Thanks! Grover cleveland ( talk) 20:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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since, AFAIK, counties in N. America all have names with the format "X County", and not "County X" as in Ireland. -- 194.73.118.77 10:53, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
Why the county crest in irish? EIRE across it? County Down is in Northern Ireland and the UK. Any crest should be in English. 86.131.202.57 23:03, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Well I'm guessing that this is some kind of historical crest, but if so, it should be clarified as such. -- feline1 09:45, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Image:Gaelic Athletic Association.png Image:Downnewcrest.jpg
You appear to have found the correct heraldic coat-of-arms for Down, so that should certainly be the one used in the article. I wouldn't worry about the fact that counties in NornIrond are no longer used for local government administration - they are still quite ubiquitously recognised by everyone who lives in the country (much more so that the local government districts - I'd be amazed if you could find me someone who could rhyme off the names of all of those!), and if we have an article about a historical county, we can surely show its historical coat of arms....-- feline1 23:16, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
Would this crest be a more suitable one? Image:Down_Crest.gif ( Thebdogg 22:18, 1 November 2005 (UTC))
It is just a little peculiar and trolling to change metric to imperial as this has been the consensus since just about anyone can remember in these articles. Additionally all other infoboxes for Northern Ireland counties use metric only. Hopefully not another revert war. Djegan 17:17, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry Mal/Setanta747 unless you prove you have a valid case its not going to change. Anyway your only converting metric to imperial. Sigh. Their is a consensus here for metric firsly, put imperial secondly of you wish. Thats it. If you are not happy take another wikiholiday. Djegan 10:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I just removed the reference to the county being previously known as "County St Mirren". It was added by an anon IP in February. The IP has only made a handful of edits, mostly vandalism. Also I can find *absolutely* no evidence to the county ever bearing the name. Lozleader 09:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded a newer county map on par with the county maps for counties of ireland. these maps highlights the position of the county within the island of Ireland as well as Northern Ireland thus satisfying the pattern shown for the other county maps. I am aware that the other maps was just of Northern Ireland counties, however the location of the county on an "island-wide" basis is more beneficial to tourists and is a compromise that should satisfy both Nationalists and Unionists. -- RÓNÁN "Caint / Talk" 17:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
One of the problems with the most recent maps ( for instance) is that one might have validly believed that Northern Ireland was an island entirely surrounded by water. It would be a good idea, as a miniumum, to at least imply their is an independent and separate political entity to the south and west as indicated on some other mapping styles ( for instance as in the U.S.). Djegan 20:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone please elaborate on the apparent earthquake in Down on 27 February 2008? Stampede1961 ( talk) 02:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
this has come up in other articles re. irish naming convention, but if the translation to english is 'county OF the fort', shouldn't the irish be 'contae na duin'? my limited irish translates 'contae an duin' as 'county the fort'. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 02:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
There is a discussion ongoing about the locator maps for Northern Ireland counties — see
here.
~Asarlaí
19:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Population of County Down cannot be determined absolute as information in the census is no longer collected on a county basis. However, a relatively reliable estimate can be made using the figures and maps provided by the Ordnance Survey and the fingures from the 2001 Census freely available from NISRA. Despite Belfast, Lisburn, Newry & Mourne and Craigavon council areas all crossing the county boundaries, the electoral wards within them tend not to. In the small amount of cases where the Electoral Wards do cross into County Antrim or County Armagh, the Census Output Areas serve as a yet smaller geographical breakdown of the figures. In certain circumstances these Census Output Areas do cross the border and I have chosen to only select those which the majority of the Area is within County Down. If anyone has any queries or suggestions please get in contact. I'm going to replace the 489,000 number which has not yet been sourced at the time of writing. The Wikipedia article for County Cork states that the population of that county in 2006 was 481,294 which is lower than both 492,840 and 489,000 and so County Down seems to be the third, rather than the fourth largest county in Ireland. Cuirfear fáilte roimh chomhfhreagras i nGaeilge. Correspondance in Irish is welcomed. D.de.loinsigh ( talk) 19:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
TOTAL: 492840 D.de.loinsigh ( talk) 19:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
What is it? Curiously, this article doesn't say. 79.97.154.238 ( talk) 19:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Just like to point out that the map on the page is incorrect in that it shows east belfast to be a part of antrim.. the lagan is the border. Ive seen many other places that make this same mistake and i cant work out why. Eleutherius ( talk) 00:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I think the boundary may have been changed in the late 19th century, but people still go with the old usage. 94.194.221.149 ( talk) 19:50, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
As I've mentioned before on this page (see "Population of County Down in the 2001 Census") one cannot be certain as to the exact population of any county in Northern Ireland as statistics are not collected on a county basis anymore - rather district council, electoral wards, Westminster constituencies etc. are prefered. Below is an updated account of my relatively reliable estimate based on the recently released detailed breakdown in the figures from the 2011 UK Census. I have used exactly the same process as last time. No area included last time (when, in 2010, I did this same culculation for the 2001 census) has been left out this time, and vice versa.
The only thing that has changed is the name used by the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency to its smallest geographic area of record; what used to be called a "census output area" is now called a "small area". But these are exactly the same entity - their boundaries have not changed. However, as part of this change their code identier has changed also. For ease of reference I have given both below. The order is the same as last time (despite the fact that these new codes might suggest a new order be adopted).
In brief County Down had an appoximate population of 492,840 in 2001 according to the UK Census of that year. The approximate corresponding figure from the 2011 UK Census is 531,665. Regarding County Cork: again County Down appears to be the third, rather than the fourth, largest county on the island of Ireland in terms of population. County Cork had a population of 518,128 in the Republic of Ireland's 2011 Census.
As previously, any queries or suggestions are most welcome. Cuirfear fáilte roimh chomhfhreagras i nGaeilge. Correspondance in Irish is welcomed.
TOTAL: 531665 D.de.loinsigh ( talk • contribs) 03:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The sentence "The county was archaically called Downshire" seems unsatisfactory. The marquisate of Downshire is still a current peerage, and there is a hotel of that name in Banbridge, but the adjective "archaic" means not simply "disused" but "ancient". I'm also unsure whether "Downshire" was exclusively used at any point, or whether its use was always contemporaneous with "County Down". I would propose to replace the sentence with "A former name for the county was Downshire". Deipnosophista ( talk) 12:01, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
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Ignorant outsider here: is there any kind of county-level government or administration? If so, this should be added to the article. If not, it's worth pointing out, since in general one would expect an administrative division like a county to correspond to some level of government. Thanks! Grover cleveland ( talk) 20:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)