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Isn't Camilla eligible to be a counselor of state now as Charles' spouse? Rlendog ( talk) 18:14, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
In each reign, three of the initial Counsellors are holdovers; shouldn't their tenure be dated from when they became Counsellors in the previous reign? — Tamfang ( talk) 16:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Who replaced Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, after his death? 77.46.96.214 ( talk) 13:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
...is not eligible to be a Counsellor of State. Richard75 ( talk) 16:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I had a go at making a timeline of Counsellors of State - any use? John Womble ( talk) 18:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I've added a timeline, feel free to suggest changes. John Womble ( talk) 17:52, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
None of the current Counsellors of State are British Subjects. Indeed two of them, Prince Harry and Princess Beatrice have never held such status, the others ceased to be British Subjects on 1 January 1983 when they became British Citizens.
It is true the Regency Act uses the term "British Subject", (which was a status held by a much larger number of people at the time). It probably a source of genuine debate how we should read "British Subject" for the purpose of the Regency Act, it could mean 'Commonwealth Citizen' or perhaps , 'British Citizen'. At the moment, the point is moot, (all eligible people are both) but say one of Prince Harry's children (who are only British Citizens by descent) married a Canadian, or a South African citizem... then it gets interesting. It depends on whether "British Subject" in the Regency Act should be read... Probably it means 'Commonwealth Citizen' which suggests a Canadian Citizen could be a Counsellor of State (consistent with eligibility to join the Army or stand for Parliament).
If of course 'British Subject' in the Regency Act is to be read by the current understanding of British Subject, then it is unlikely anyone has been eligible to be a Counsellor of State since 1983! 91.84.189.190 ( talk) 23:19, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Princes Harry and Andrew haven't been disqualified from being counsellors. They're no longer being appointed, but this article is a list of who is eligible. Richard75 ( talk) 23:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
In UK law ( [1] https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/residence-domicile-and-remittance-basis/rdrm22300) domicile of choice is acquired once the conditions of residency and intent have been met. Residency is clear: he resides in a legal jurisdiction outside the UK and, as of this week, has no residence in the UK. Intent is also apparent, given that the Sussexes are not on holiday or temporarily 'deployed' to California, but there is a clear determination to remain in the United States. On that basis, Prince Harry no longer meets the requirements of the act and has ceased to be eligible for appointment as Counsellor of State.
Princess Eugenie would, therefore, take his place on the list. 2A00:23C8:4383:9301:8CC0:D161:8153:FEB0 ( talk) 15:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Harry still hasn't been removed from the list of counsellors: see www.royal.uk and The Times. He is just no longer serving, which we knew already. Only an act of Parliament can change that. Richard75 ( talk) 09:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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Isn't Camilla eligible to be a counselor of state now as Charles' spouse? Rlendog ( talk) 18:14, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
In each reign, three of the initial Counsellors are holdovers; shouldn't their tenure be dated from when they became Counsellors in the previous reign? — Tamfang ( talk) 16:38, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Who replaced Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, after his death? 77.46.96.214 ( talk) 13:46, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
...is not eligible to be a Counsellor of State. Richard75 ( talk) 16:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
I had a go at making a timeline of Counsellors of State - any use? John Womble ( talk) 18:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Okay, I've added a timeline, feel free to suggest changes. John Womble ( talk) 17:52, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
None of the current Counsellors of State are British Subjects. Indeed two of them, Prince Harry and Princess Beatrice have never held such status, the others ceased to be British Subjects on 1 January 1983 when they became British Citizens.
It is true the Regency Act uses the term "British Subject", (which was a status held by a much larger number of people at the time). It probably a source of genuine debate how we should read "British Subject" for the purpose of the Regency Act, it could mean 'Commonwealth Citizen' or perhaps , 'British Citizen'. At the moment, the point is moot, (all eligible people are both) but say one of Prince Harry's children (who are only British Citizens by descent) married a Canadian, or a South African citizem... then it gets interesting. It depends on whether "British Subject" in the Regency Act should be read... Probably it means 'Commonwealth Citizen' which suggests a Canadian Citizen could be a Counsellor of State (consistent with eligibility to join the Army or stand for Parliament).
If of course 'British Subject' in the Regency Act is to be read by the current understanding of British Subject, then it is unlikely anyone has been eligible to be a Counsellor of State since 1983! 91.84.189.190 ( talk) 23:19, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Princes Harry and Andrew haven't been disqualified from being counsellors. They're no longer being appointed, but this article is a list of who is eligible. Richard75 ( talk) 23:48, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
In UK law ( [1] https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/residence-domicile-and-remittance-basis/rdrm22300) domicile of choice is acquired once the conditions of residency and intent have been met. Residency is clear: he resides in a legal jurisdiction outside the UK and, as of this week, has no residence in the UK. Intent is also apparent, given that the Sussexes are not on holiday or temporarily 'deployed' to California, but there is a clear determination to remain in the United States. On that basis, Prince Harry no longer meets the requirements of the act and has ceased to be eligible for appointment as Counsellor of State.
Princess Eugenie would, therefore, take his place on the list. 2A00:23C8:4383:9301:8CC0:D161:8153:FEB0 ( talk) 15:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
Harry still hasn't been removed from the list of counsellors: see www.royal.uk and The Times. He is just no longer serving, which we knew already. Only an act of Parliament can change that. Richard75 ( talk) 09:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)