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The criticism about cs being a dating site it is totally out of scope. This happens on all social sites. And it does happen on HospitalityClub too for instance. See "Dating: some people really mistake the club for a flirting/partner finding platform." at http://secure.hospitalityclub.org/hc/stopspam.php?x=1 or http://www.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.php?action=DisplayMessage&StartMessageId=29758 or http://www.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.php?action=DisplayMessage&StartMessageId=53763
I would remove the criticism altogether or I would suggest to add it to all the social sites that expose a photo: flickr.com, ebay.com, amazon.com, ...
1. Couchsurfing makes a big deal out of saying it is not a dating site. The founder 'used' it as a dating site (he met his wife through CS). FB, ebay, amazon, twitter, etc don't claim to be or not be dating sites. So it makes sense to have a Dating Site heading for CS without needing the same heading for all social websites.
2. Comments about CS being or not being a dating site are observations and opinions, not criticisms, unless your point of view is that online dating is a bad thing. The criticism is that CS claims not to be something that it is, or pretends to be immune from common online social interactions. 83.110.240.216 ( talk) 12:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
I wonder about this: "CouchSurfing as we knew it doesn't exist anymore." Does this mean that it is now existing in *some new form*? Such as in www.couchsurfing.net, which looks like a replacement site (or maybe it's just a knock-off ...)?
Hopeful. -- Chickensoda 05:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I want to know the reason for using the word allegedly. Does the user think that Casey Fenton is bluffing? -- Anderssr 18:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I didn't write that sentence (using "alleged") so I don't know, but there seems to be a lot of evidence emerging that using the term "fatal" to describe the error, while perhaps technically correct, carries misleading connotations to many. If it's a fatal error that seems to imply that CS (or at least the CS database) is dead, gone, and not coming back. The email discussions that have happened today, though, seem to suggest that CS is probably not permanently dead, and even the databse is not really fully dead. Also, "alleged" doesn't mean the writer thinks Casey is lying or bluffing or even wrong! It just means that the person who wrote that sentence can't personally vouch for whether the error was fatal or not. -- Chickensoda 21:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a link to Casey asking on an MySQL how to recover from a "DROP DATABASE" command. If someone would have said (or mailed) that to me I wouldn't have believed it. I can also remember something about a crashed harddrive, though no mention of that in the MySQL forum. And the original CS=dead message is gone from couchsurfing.com. Guaka 19:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
There is a mixed citation method which causes headache, and non-standard use of the note tag coupled with the ref tag makes it difficult to work with. the {{ citeweb}} template should be used on all references to format them properly, and they can be given a unique tag for multiple use with that, then use the {{ reflist}} template to create the references list.-- Crossmr ( talk) 20:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The following below was added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk), but needs verification, refs, and a total rewrite before it can be integrated into the article. As it is, it's unsubstantiated personal research and opinion. - kslays ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Read below: this paragraph is the result of many many years of heart-breaking experiences of many members of CS and Westeuropeans in general, the aim of this paragraph is to avoid people having pain and loss of money. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk) 17:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
It is a fact that female members (and even male members) of CS have to be careful when contacting male members from certain countries. Citizens with passports from a large number of countries are not granted access easily into Europe or North America: it is very difficult for many nationalities to obtain a visa for the latter parts of the world. Many men on CS are out to charm female members from Western countries and will pretend to have feelings for them only in order to obtain luxury goods, visa, money, free travel, college abroad. The global rule applies: the best charmers are the best cheaters: a long row of positive references does not necessarily mean that that member is trustworthy in all senses.
This is not unfounded but based on many, many experiences of members thatI know personally and of myself. And actually one should consider "ignorant" the one that does not know this and the information could be regarded therefore as totally superfluous, but, still, it is good to warn those that never had any contact with people from "certain" countries before@! —Preceding
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While I certainly think any dangers should be highlighted, this paragraph at the same time sticks out as something not easily verifiable, and with many sweeping generalisations, in an article that is otherwise quite well written. If you add a verifiable source (unfortunately, your own / friends experience does not count as a verifiable source under wikipedia guidelines) then we can go ahead and include it. For example, "certain countries" -> which countries?, "Many men" -> How many? From where? etc. So for now, I'll remove the paragraph again, pending agreement. I'm doing this in good faith, and am happy to discuss this further. 211.168.250.100 ( talk) 14:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I do not agree here. An encyclopedia states that the flowers and leaves of a potato plant are poisonous because it wants to prevent people to die / get sick from eating those parts. "certain countries" means: poor muslem countries (Arabic plus Pakistan) and African countries. If you want to write this, go ahead, but people will cut your head off. Take a look at the CS profiles of e.g. "Wimbledonian" and "Julia Satsiri" for mere examples. "Hubert Michael Russ" has many similar bad negative experiences in Arab countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk) 23:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey, @Country20, this is a pretty big removal of content without an edit summary. Can you explain your thinking? Valereee ( talk) 21:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
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The criticism about cs being a dating site it is totally out of scope. This happens on all social sites. And it does happen on HospitalityClub too for instance. See "Dating: some people really mistake the club for a flirting/partner finding platform." at http://secure.hospitalityclub.org/hc/stopspam.php?x=1 or http://www.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.php?action=DisplayMessage&StartMessageId=29758 or http://www.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.php?action=DisplayMessage&StartMessageId=53763
I would remove the criticism altogether or I would suggest to add it to all the social sites that expose a photo: flickr.com, ebay.com, amazon.com, ...
1. Couchsurfing makes a big deal out of saying it is not a dating site. The founder 'used' it as a dating site (he met his wife through CS). FB, ebay, amazon, twitter, etc don't claim to be or not be dating sites. So it makes sense to have a Dating Site heading for CS without needing the same heading for all social websites.
2. Comments about CS being or not being a dating site are observations and opinions, not criticisms, unless your point of view is that online dating is a bad thing. The criticism is that CS claims not to be something that it is, or pretends to be immune from common online social interactions. 83.110.240.216 ( talk) 12:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
I wonder about this: "CouchSurfing as we knew it doesn't exist anymore." Does this mean that it is now existing in *some new form*? Such as in www.couchsurfing.net, which looks like a replacement site (or maybe it's just a knock-off ...)?
Hopeful. -- Chickensoda 05:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I want to know the reason for using the word allegedly. Does the user think that Casey Fenton is bluffing? -- Anderssr 18:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I didn't write that sentence (using "alleged") so I don't know, but there seems to be a lot of evidence emerging that using the term "fatal" to describe the error, while perhaps technically correct, carries misleading connotations to many. If it's a fatal error that seems to imply that CS (or at least the CS database) is dead, gone, and not coming back. The email discussions that have happened today, though, seem to suggest that CS is probably not permanently dead, and even the databse is not really fully dead. Also, "alleged" doesn't mean the writer thinks Casey is lying or bluffing or even wrong! It just means that the person who wrote that sentence can't personally vouch for whether the error was fatal or not. -- Chickensoda 21:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a link to Casey asking on an MySQL how to recover from a "DROP DATABASE" command. If someone would have said (or mailed) that to me I wouldn't have believed it. I can also remember something about a crashed harddrive, though no mention of that in the MySQL forum. And the original CS=dead message is gone from couchsurfing.com. Guaka 19:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
There is a mixed citation method which causes headache, and non-standard use of the note tag coupled with the ref tag makes it difficult to work with. the {{ citeweb}} template should be used on all references to format them properly, and they can be given a unique tag for multiple use with that, then use the {{ reflist}} template to create the references list.-- Crossmr ( talk) 20:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The following below was added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk), but needs verification, refs, and a total rewrite before it can be integrated into the article. As it is, it's unsubstantiated personal research and opinion. - kslays ( talk • contribs) 17:51, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Read below: this paragraph is the result of many many years of heart-breaking experiences of many members of CS and Westeuropeans in general, the aim of this paragraph is to avoid people having pain and loss of money. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk) 17:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
It is a fact that female members (and even male members) of CS have to be careful when contacting male members from certain countries. Citizens with passports from a large number of countries are not granted access easily into Europe or North America: it is very difficult for many nationalities to obtain a visa for the latter parts of the world. Many men on CS are out to charm female members from Western countries and will pretend to have feelings for them only in order to obtain luxury goods, visa, money, free travel, college abroad. The global rule applies: the best charmers are the best cheaters: a long row of positive references does not necessarily mean that that member is trustworthy in all senses.
This is not unfounded but based on many, many experiences of members thatI know personally and of myself. And actually one should consider "ignorant" the one that does not know this and the information could be regarded therefore as totally superfluous, but, still, it is good to warn those that never had any contact with people from "certain" countries before@! —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
87.208.5.192 (
talk)
17:38, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
While I certainly think any dangers should be highlighted, this paragraph at the same time sticks out as something not easily verifiable, and with many sweeping generalisations, in an article that is otherwise quite well written. If you add a verifiable source (unfortunately, your own / friends experience does not count as a verifiable source under wikipedia guidelines) then we can go ahead and include it. For example, "certain countries" -> which countries?, "Many men" -> How many? From where? etc. So for now, I'll remove the paragraph again, pending agreement. I'm doing this in good faith, and am happy to discuss this further. 211.168.250.100 ( talk) 14:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
I do not agree here. An encyclopedia states that the flowers and leaves of a potato plant are poisonous because it wants to prevent people to die / get sick from eating those parts. "certain countries" means: poor muslem countries (Arabic plus Pakistan) and African countries. If you want to write this, go ahead, but people will cut your head off. Take a look at the CS profiles of e.g. "Wimbledonian" and "Julia Satsiri" for mere examples. "Hubert Michael Russ" has many similar bad negative experiences in Arab countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.208.5.192 ( talk) 23:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Hey, @Country20, this is a pretty big removal of content without an edit summary. Can you explain your thinking? Valereee ( talk) 21:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)