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What happened to the temperature cells in the weather table?-- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 02:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
To Cork, County Cork.-- RM ( Be my friend) 02:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the article itself says where the city is EXCEPT for the county. Would there be any problem with changing "It is located in the South-West Region and in the province of Munster" to "It is located in County Cork, in the South-West Region, and in the province of Munster"? -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 14:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Given the absence of an edit summary, it's not clear what the rationale was for a recent edit which removed all but one cat from this article. Given that only the eponymous cat remains, it may be that the change was driven by a attempt to simplify the cats. However, per WP:EPON, this isn't how this is supposed to work:
Unless there was some other driver, I'll therefore likely revert this change under WP:EPON. Guliolopez ( talk) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Just a thought - In the section about sports (other sports), the American Football team isn't mentioned. I don't know enough about it to write anything myself at the moment, but maybe someone else does? 159.134.11.112 ( talk) 22:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
You've either got the wrong king or the wrong year, there. TheNusz ( talk) 05:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that older speakers of the Cork accent tend to be variably or semi-rhotic, often pronouncing the R is one word and not in another, I will try and source this an add it to the article. 195.162.87.201 ( talk) 15:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. In a recent series of edits a lot of additional content has been added. Which is great. But a lot of it appears to be uncited. And includes some commentary that appears to reflect the editor's opinion rather than a cited reliable source.
I have particular concerns about edits which added POV descriptions where none previously existed. This is especially problematic without cites. ("high quality dual carriageway" - high quality under what standard?, "highly populated western suburbs" - highly populated compared to what/where?, etc). Why do we even need this commentary? Stick to the facts.
Also there was a lot of content added about telecoms. In my view this content is far too extensive for a high-level article about the city (does a reader interested in the city really care about provision of ADSL2+ over VDSL2 broadband services?). And also there are very limited references provided to back-up these sections.
Unless these issues can be addressed independently then I will see about removing the POV assertions (perhaps restoring the previous), and significantly summarising the telecom stuff (to remove the extensive detail and uncited stuff). Other thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 18:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
In a series of recent edits, we seem to have gained 2 sub-sections in the Culture section. I really don't think we need these. They are redundant to existing copy and seem to have been added purely as a buffer around some new material. A (broader range) of Cork musical contributors (from RTÉ Vanbrugh to Gallagher to Sultans) are already covered just a few lines above. As is the Cork Film Festival. Unless there are other thoughts or objections, I will probably just merge the new content (such as it is) into the existing material. Guliolopez ( talk) 20:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
In a recent edit we removed a chunk of stuff from the "culture" section. I can perhaps surmise why some of it was removed (esp the stuff about "French restaurants and kebab places" - as if that somehow suggested "cultural melting-pot"; or the stuff tipped a little towards WP:UNDUE, and unsupported by more recent census demographics). I wonder however if some of it has a place in the demographics section? Including the more properly cited stuff? Would be interested to hear any other thoughts - before I see if any of it is salvageable for the demographics section.... Guliolopez ( talk) 23:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi. An editor has suggested that the current infobox montage image could be replaced with something that is 'higher quality and easier to understand' (with a suggestion that some of the source images are 'grainy and outdated').
For myself, I think the top image of the city hall is relatively high quality, and was assessed as a 'valued image' on Commons a while back. (I would note that the proposed replacement for that part of the montage was removed from the body of this article not so long ago by an editor who felt it was underexposed/dark. As such, I'm not sure its the best candidate for that part of the montage or prime placement in the infobox). If there is a better image of the city hall somewhere (better than both the underexposed one and the "valued image" one), then the only alternative we might consider is perhaps this 'angled' shot (although that may not sit as nicely as the others).
The middle two images (market and UCC) look OK to me, so I'd be interested to hear thoughts on how they might be improved. (For myself, the proposed replacement of the English Market image isn't really representative of the subject. If someone think's "Cork English Market", I'm not sure they think the upper stories of the Princes' Street facade.)
The bottom two images (Lee and Shandon) are possibly "only OK". Personally I wouldn't replace the "distant" view of Shandon with this lowa-ngled closeup (Similar to the proposed English Market image, the angle is perhaps a bit extreme. And the subject not represented as most might perceive it. IE: Most don't see Shandon from low-angled street level). The "Lee" image probably however could be replaced - maybe with a view of the city centre....
Other thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 15:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
-- 86.40.234.208 ( talk) 22:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I would agree with you on the top but on the middle ones i would find clearer images which would be easier (market and UCC) to make out(less light/shadow). While a stronger resolotion would suit the bottom two. But in my opinion the best way to resolve this is to have a vote on it. TMN81 ( talk) 16:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The Shandon image is great,I think we can do better with others. charlesolivercork
Please feel free to change and try out other images. I put up a new collage image , lets take it for a test drive because its time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesolivercork ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree , it looks better with a thin white border I'll edit that.I also replaced the UCC image with the one that you prefer. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Be_bold User talk:charlesolivercork —Preceding undated comment added 09:49, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
I think that the article North Main Street (Cork), should be considered for merging into this article as it is not necessarily notable on its own. It really says little more than "this is a street, it is old, it has been redeveloped", it is unclear it passing WP:GEOROAD, especially as all the sources conspicuously have "Cork" in the publisher's name. I would say there should be at least some non-cork based coverage to shown the street is significant to the wider world. Dysklyver 19:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Bounce ( Wasechun tashunka— A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver) Hi all. It's been 3 weeks or so since this thread was opened. It doesn't seem like there's consensus for a merge. Any issues if I close the thread (and rm the hatnote)? Guliolopez ( talk) 16:31, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Should information about recent archaeological discoveries in Cork be added to this article? https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/viking-centre-discovered-in-cork-city-predates-waterford-settlement-1.3350654? and https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/1-000-year-old-viking-sword-found-at-cork-beamish-site-1.3234406? TMN81 ( talk) 14:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello,
I am the original uploader of the picture of Patrick Street. After looking at it again, I think it is really poor due to the amount of cars, furniture and hoarding (due to road works) in the way. It also only really focusses on the top of one or two buildings and it was a really dull day. Today I decided to retake a picture of the same shot but at a much wider angle, allowing for the actual street and much more buildings to be seen. It is a lot brighter and gives a better understanding of the street then my original picture. Should I replace the one in use on the page with this one?
File:Patrick Street, Cork, January 2018.jpg DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 00:36, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Looking over the discussions on the image of the English Market, I got the feeling people thought it wasn’t really appropriate but will do for what is available. To fix this, I have taken this picture of the Grand Parade entrance to the English Market, arguably more ‘iconic’/notable than the Prince’s Street entrance (at least in the pictures available on Commons). Sadly, those parking spaces outside seem to be full all day, so it is nearly impossible to get a picture of the façade without them there, but they shouldn’t be an issue.
The picture: File:English Market, Grand Parade, Cork, 2018.jpg
DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 16:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
I know that I just changed the image, however looking at it now, it seems like quite a grainy picture. Or at least from a far distance (as in the thread it is very small). I was wondering if people thought this would be more appropriate? And yes, I am aware that this is a very minor issue which most people probably don’t care about haha
DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 01:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I agree with your point of The Elysian messing with the City Hall tower in that image, which is why I brought it here first. I think you are also right saying the best way to capture the building adequatly lit is using sunlight. Although I do think the sunlight in the picture I posted was sufficient. I think the best angle to get of the building is from the front like Charles’, but with the brightness of the too of the montage image (but, as you said, less yellow). I will try to get a picture like that in the summer. In the meantime, I propose changing the image to other image I have linked due to the angle, lighting and absence of cars, which was originally used. It seems to be the best without having to reuse the one from the montage. — DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 18:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
This article is basically just a section from the main article on Cork that's been turned into it's own article for no clear reason. There's no reason why it needs it's own article instead of just being a section like lists of schools are on most other city pages. Nathan2055 talk - contribs 00:06, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
The opening sentence of this article is misleading:
"Cork ... is the second largest city in Ireland"
It is not. Cork is the second largest city in the Republic of Ireland, however, in Ireland as a whole Belfast is the second largest city.
The article either needs to be changed to emphasise Cork's status as the second largest city in the republic, or it needs to be stated that it is the third largest city in Ireland.
/info/en/?search=List_of_settlements_on_the_island_of_Ireland_by_population
John2o2o2o ( talk) 14:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I was very surprised that there isn't a dedicated "Transport in Cork" page like Transport in Dublin. What gives? Ridiculopathy ( talk) 20:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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I do not see a need for the title to be Cork (city) as it is differentiated from the county by that article being named County Cork. Other cities like Limerick and Waterford do not do this. ☘️ King ᚺᛒ ☘️ Talk, Guestbook 12:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
In a recent series of edits, a number of anon/IP contributors have sought to include the name/details of one particular sports club in the "other sports" section. While, initially, my concern with this inclusion was that it was entirely unsupported, that specific issue has now been addressed (with thanks for the ref - although could've done without that personal attack).
However, as noted in this edit summary, and in response to this apparent question, I would note that, as the other three "named" sports clubs in that sentence are all covered by specific articles ( Neptune Basketball Club, UCC Demons and Cork Admirals) the inferred inclusion criteria for that text is along the lines of WP:CSC. IE: Clubs that demonstrably and verifiably meet WP:NCLUB (and have an article). And "active in national competitions". As it stands, and while basketball and American football as sports are not "special" in themselves, the other entries in that text meet that criteria. As it stands, the "junior ice hockey program" doesn't appear to meet that criteria. And, frankly, my question in response is why (your? kids?) inline hockey club is "special" compared to every other sports team/club in Cork? Why is that club the only exception to the apparent inclusion criteria? Over every other Cork-based hockey team, golf club, athletics outfit, tennis club, karate dojo, etc?
In short, Neptune Basketball Club is listed and named, not because it is "special", because it is notable. Why is this ( your?) inline hockey club? Above all other otherwise non-notable sports clubs? Guliolopez ( talk) 11:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
calling a club notable is subjective [..] what makes Neptune more notable". WP:CLUB sets out the criteria for whether a club is notable or not. WP:GNG also applies. (Which expects that qualifying coverage be largely independent of the subject. Under which certain types of WP:INTERVIEWS, like those recently added, are of a type "broadly unhelpful in establishing notability". FYI.)
If it's so notable it should have its own section and not be in other sports section". I'm not sure I'm following what you are saying here. But if you are saying that every notable Cork-based sports club, like Neptune or whatever (of which there are dozens and dozens and dozens ), should each have their own section/sub-section in this Cork (city) article, then I would refer you to WP:NOTDIRECTORY. (Wikipedia isn't a directory of sports clubs. Nor should this article be turned into a directory/list of every single sports club in the city/area. Notable or not.)
players representing the Irish national team from this club. You would know this if you read any of the referenced articles". I read all of the referenced/linked news articles. As above, my concern isn't that the entry doesn't meet the (explicit) "active in national competitions" criteria. Rather that it isn't the same as those in the (implicit) "notable clubs with articles" common selection criteria. And, as it stands, is the only entry in that sentence that is unlike the others.
already said I'm not associated with any of the clubs". If I missed it, then I apologise, but can you confirm when and where you said that?
just move it to end of the section as it's own sentence after the Aussie rules bit". OK. I'm not sure I fully follow, but I will take a look and see if there's a compromise approach that will address both our perspectives.
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What happened to the temperature cells in the weather table?-- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 02:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
To Cork, County Cork.-- RM ( Be my friend) 02:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the article itself says where the city is EXCEPT for the county. Would there be any problem with changing "It is located in the South-West Region and in the province of Munster" to "It is located in County Cork, in the South-West Region, and in the province of Munster"? -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 14:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Given the absence of an edit summary, it's not clear what the rationale was for a recent edit which removed all but one cat from this article. Given that only the eponymous cat remains, it may be that the change was driven by a attempt to simplify the cats. However, per WP:EPON, this isn't how this is supposed to work:
Unless there was some other driver, I'll therefore likely revert this change under WP:EPON. Guliolopez ( talk) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Just a thought - In the section about sports (other sports), the American Football team isn't mentioned. I don't know enough about it to write anything myself at the moment, but maybe someone else does? 159.134.11.112 ( talk) 22:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
You've either got the wrong king or the wrong year, there. TheNusz ( talk) 05:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed that older speakers of the Cork accent tend to be variably or semi-rhotic, often pronouncing the R is one word and not in another, I will try and source this an add it to the article. 195.162.87.201 ( talk) 15:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi. In a recent series of edits a lot of additional content has been added. Which is great. But a lot of it appears to be uncited. And includes some commentary that appears to reflect the editor's opinion rather than a cited reliable source.
I have particular concerns about edits which added POV descriptions where none previously existed. This is especially problematic without cites. ("high quality dual carriageway" - high quality under what standard?, "highly populated western suburbs" - highly populated compared to what/where?, etc). Why do we even need this commentary? Stick to the facts.
Also there was a lot of content added about telecoms. In my view this content is far too extensive for a high-level article about the city (does a reader interested in the city really care about provision of ADSL2+ over VDSL2 broadband services?). And also there are very limited references provided to back-up these sections.
Unless these issues can be addressed independently then I will see about removing the POV assertions (perhaps restoring the previous), and significantly summarising the telecom stuff (to remove the extensive detail and uncited stuff). Other thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 18:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
In a series of recent edits, we seem to have gained 2 sub-sections in the Culture section. I really don't think we need these. They are redundant to existing copy and seem to have been added purely as a buffer around some new material. A (broader range) of Cork musical contributors (from RTÉ Vanbrugh to Gallagher to Sultans) are already covered just a few lines above. As is the Cork Film Festival. Unless there are other thoughts or objections, I will probably just merge the new content (such as it is) into the existing material. Guliolopez ( talk) 20:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
In a recent edit we removed a chunk of stuff from the "culture" section. I can perhaps surmise why some of it was removed (esp the stuff about "French restaurants and kebab places" - as if that somehow suggested "cultural melting-pot"; or the stuff tipped a little towards WP:UNDUE, and unsupported by more recent census demographics). I wonder however if some of it has a place in the demographics section? Including the more properly cited stuff? Would be interested to hear any other thoughts - before I see if any of it is salvageable for the demographics section.... Guliolopez ( talk) 23:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi. An editor has suggested that the current infobox montage image could be replaced with something that is 'higher quality and easier to understand' (with a suggestion that some of the source images are 'grainy and outdated').
For myself, I think the top image of the city hall is relatively high quality, and was assessed as a 'valued image' on Commons a while back. (I would note that the proposed replacement for that part of the montage was removed from the body of this article not so long ago by an editor who felt it was underexposed/dark. As such, I'm not sure its the best candidate for that part of the montage or prime placement in the infobox). If there is a better image of the city hall somewhere (better than both the underexposed one and the "valued image" one), then the only alternative we might consider is perhaps this 'angled' shot (although that may not sit as nicely as the others).
The middle two images (market and UCC) look OK to me, so I'd be interested to hear thoughts on how they might be improved. (For myself, the proposed replacement of the English Market image isn't really representative of the subject. If someone think's "Cork English Market", I'm not sure they think the upper stories of the Princes' Street facade.)
The bottom two images (Lee and Shandon) are possibly "only OK". Personally I wouldn't replace the "distant" view of Shandon with this lowa-ngled closeup (Similar to the proposed English Market image, the angle is perhaps a bit extreme. And the subject not represented as most might perceive it. IE: Most don't see Shandon from low-angled street level). The "Lee" image probably however could be replaced - maybe with a view of the city centre....
Other thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 15:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
-- 86.40.234.208 ( talk) 22:14, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I would agree with you on the top but on the middle ones i would find clearer images which would be easier (market and UCC) to make out(less light/shadow). While a stronger resolotion would suit the bottom two. But in my opinion the best way to resolve this is to have a vote on it. TMN81 ( talk) 16:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The Shandon image is great,I think we can do better with others. charlesolivercork
Please feel free to change and try out other images. I put up a new collage image , lets take it for a test drive because its time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesolivercork ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I agree , it looks better with a thin white border I'll edit that.I also replaced the UCC image with the one that you prefer. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Be_bold User talk:charlesolivercork —Preceding undated comment added 09:49, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
I think that the article North Main Street (Cork), should be considered for merging into this article as it is not necessarily notable on its own. It really says little more than "this is a street, it is old, it has been redeveloped", it is unclear it passing WP:GEOROAD, especially as all the sources conspicuously have "Cork" in the publisher's name. I would say there should be at least some non-cork based coverage to shown the street is significant to the wider world. Dysklyver 19:33, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Bounce ( Wasechun tashunka— A Den Jentyl Ettien Avel Dysklyver) Hi all. It's been 3 weeks or so since this thread was opened. It doesn't seem like there's consensus for a merge. Any issues if I close the thread (and rm the hatnote)? Guliolopez ( talk) 16:31, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Should information about recent archaeological discoveries in Cork be added to this article? https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/viking-centre-discovered-in-cork-city-predates-waterford-settlement-1.3350654? and https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/1-000-year-old-viking-sword-found-at-cork-beamish-site-1.3234406? TMN81 ( talk) 14:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello,
I am the original uploader of the picture of Patrick Street. After looking at it again, I think it is really poor due to the amount of cars, furniture and hoarding (due to road works) in the way. It also only really focusses on the top of one or two buildings and it was a really dull day. Today I decided to retake a picture of the same shot but at a much wider angle, allowing for the actual street and much more buildings to be seen. It is a lot brighter and gives a better understanding of the street then my original picture. Should I replace the one in use on the page with this one?
File:Patrick Street, Cork, January 2018.jpg DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 00:36, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Looking over the discussions on the image of the English Market, I got the feeling people thought it wasn’t really appropriate but will do for what is available. To fix this, I have taken this picture of the Grand Parade entrance to the English Market, arguably more ‘iconic’/notable than the Prince’s Street entrance (at least in the pictures available on Commons). Sadly, those parking spaces outside seem to be full all day, so it is nearly impossible to get a picture of the façade without them there, but they shouldn’t be an issue.
The picture: File:English Market, Grand Parade, Cork, 2018.jpg
DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 16:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
I know that I just changed the image, however looking at it now, it seems like quite a grainy picture. Or at least from a far distance (as in the thread it is very small). I was wondering if people thought this would be more appropriate? And yes, I am aware that this is a very minor issue which most people probably don’t care about haha
DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 01:03, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi! I agree with your point of The Elysian messing with the City Hall tower in that image, which is why I brought it here first. I think you are also right saying the best way to capture the building adequatly lit is using sunlight. Although I do think the sunlight in the picture I posted was sufficient. I think the best angle to get of the building is from the front like Charles’, but with the brightness of the too of the montage image (but, as you said, less yellow). I will try to get a picture like that in the summer. In the meantime, I propose changing the image to other image I have linked due to the angle, lighting and absence of cars, which was originally used. It seems to be the best without having to reuse the one from the montage. — DylanGLC2017 ( talk) 18:24, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
This article is basically just a section from the main article on Cork that's been turned into it's own article for no clear reason. There's no reason why it needs it's own article instead of just being a section like lists of schools are on most other city pages. Nathan2055 talk - contribs 00:06, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
The opening sentence of this article is misleading:
"Cork ... is the second largest city in Ireland"
It is not. Cork is the second largest city in the Republic of Ireland, however, in Ireland as a whole Belfast is the second largest city.
The article either needs to be changed to emphasise Cork's status as the second largest city in the republic, or it needs to be stated that it is the third largest city in Ireland.
/info/en/?search=List_of_settlements_on_the_island_of_Ireland_by_population
John2o2o2o ( talk) 14:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I was very surprised that there isn't a dedicated "Transport in Cork" page like Transport in Dublin. What gives? Ridiculopathy ( talk) 20:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
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I do not see a need for the title to be Cork (city) as it is differentiated from the county by that article being named County Cork. Other cities like Limerick and Waterford do not do this. ☘️ King ᚺᛒ ☘️ Talk, Guestbook 12:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
In a recent series of edits, a number of anon/IP contributors have sought to include the name/details of one particular sports club in the "other sports" section. While, initially, my concern with this inclusion was that it was entirely unsupported, that specific issue has now been addressed (with thanks for the ref - although could've done without that personal attack).
However, as noted in this edit summary, and in response to this apparent question, I would note that, as the other three "named" sports clubs in that sentence are all covered by specific articles ( Neptune Basketball Club, UCC Demons and Cork Admirals) the inferred inclusion criteria for that text is along the lines of WP:CSC. IE: Clubs that demonstrably and verifiably meet WP:NCLUB (and have an article). And "active in national competitions". As it stands, and while basketball and American football as sports are not "special" in themselves, the other entries in that text meet that criteria. As it stands, the "junior ice hockey program" doesn't appear to meet that criteria. And, frankly, my question in response is why (your? kids?) inline hockey club is "special" compared to every other sports team/club in Cork? Why is that club the only exception to the apparent inclusion criteria? Over every other Cork-based hockey team, golf club, athletics outfit, tennis club, karate dojo, etc?
In short, Neptune Basketball Club is listed and named, not because it is "special", because it is notable. Why is this ( your?) inline hockey club? Above all other otherwise non-notable sports clubs? Guliolopez ( talk) 11:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
calling a club notable is subjective [..] what makes Neptune more notable". WP:CLUB sets out the criteria for whether a club is notable or not. WP:GNG also applies. (Which expects that qualifying coverage be largely independent of the subject. Under which certain types of WP:INTERVIEWS, like those recently added, are of a type "broadly unhelpful in establishing notability". FYI.)
If it's so notable it should have its own section and not be in other sports section". I'm not sure I'm following what you are saying here. But if you are saying that every notable Cork-based sports club, like Neptune or whatever (of which there are dozens and dozens and dozens ), should each have their own section/sub-section in this Cork (city) article, then I would refer you to WP:NOTDIRECTORY. (Wikipedia isn't a directory of sports clubs. Nor should this article be turned into a directory/list of every single sports club in the city/area. Notable or not.)
players representing the Irish national team from this club. You would know this if you read any of the referenced articles". I read all of the referenced/linked news articles. As above, my concern isn't that the entry doesn't meet the (explicit) "active in national competitions" criteria. Rather that it isn't the same as those in the (implicit) "notable clubs with articles" common selection criteria. And, as it stands, is the only entry in that sentence that is unlike the others.
already said I'm not associated with any of the clubs". If I missed it, then I apologise, but can you confirm when and where you said that?
just move it to end of the section as it's own sentence after the Aussie rules bit". OK. I'm not sure I fully follow, but I will take a look and see if there's a compromise approach that will address both our perspectives.