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Can anyone add more info on the possible plans of contructing a tunnel and/or bridge across to the other side? Is it too stormy to be feasible? I am also quite curious as to whether any steps have been taken to decide to build infrastructure links across the:
Anyone with inside knowledge on any of these? I've posted similar requests elsewhere. Gruesome Twosome! 8v // Big Adamsky 20:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
No serious plans that I'm aware of. There is a power cable though, linking the North and South Islands. 03:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, There is no plans that are serious that I know of. The only plan the I know of is a few hundred water turbines that would lie on the seabed and generate electricity for the country.
not sure about the geology and any potential geotechnical issues with building a tunnel but even if possible I would doubt that with a population base of 4 million people for the entire country of NZ that building such a tunnel would be feasible in the forseeable future. (unsigned)
A floating submersed cable stayed rail tunnel would be feasible, especially given the depth of the strait. The lack of population on the south island makes the project fairly unlikely, although if the tunnel were practical for commuting it could become a very heavily used link. -- Jaded-view ( talk) 23:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This is a subject that is discussed when the beer flows in the evening but it will never happen. Even a link between the nearest points on the two Islands would be one of the World's greatest structures. (It would be considerably longer than the Great Belt link and in a more hostile environment.) The population of New Zealand doesn't warrant such a building. But just getting to the closest points would require magnificent engineering. On the North Island, the area around Terawhiti is only 10km from Wellington but it is guarded by a 400 m high range. On the South Island you are looking at 30km of tunnels through hills. What most Kiwis find amusing is the speculation (normally by Americans) about a fixed link between New Zealand and Australia when Canada is nearer to Mexico than NZ is to Aus. One USA web site even claimed that Auckland Harbour Bridge is connected to Sydney Harbour Bridge. OrewaTel ( talk) 10:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Recently a map of the World showing the tide height was added without explanation. This was an animated map that showed the tide height over a complete tide cycle. The map was removed because it seemed irrelevant. That was partly because there was no explanation and partly because it was a global map whereas this article is about a small strait. Actually the map was very relevant. It showed very clearly why Cook Strait has such extreme tidal flows.
It is common for islands to act as tidal nodes. The tidal wave (and tides are waves) circles the node. New Zealand is unique in that the combined North plus South Islands act as a single tidal node but because they are separated by body of water (Cook Strait) we have the situation that two places no more than 50 km apart are subject to huge differences in tidal level. So when Cape Palliser at the East end of Cook Strait is at low water, Oteranga Bay at the West end is at high tide and vice versa. Putting it down in words is unsatisfactory whilst the animated map not only makes it plain but also shows how unusual is this situation.
I notice that the map has been reinstated with an explanatory caption. This has improved the article and the map should not be removed for a third time without a discussion here. OrewaTel ( talk) 11:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Powellelli, I was aware of the South Island official duel names but not for the Cook Strait. Have you got a ref so I can stop fretting. @ Powellelli:. Thanks Dushan Jugum ( talk) 07:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Hiya Dushan, the NZGOVT website "New Zealand History" marks the Cook Straits name as "Raukawa" or "Raukawa Moana" ( https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/cook-strait), I read the "Te Moana-o-Raukawa" which was already within the wikipedia article as a correct phrasing of that but in hindsight that may have been hasty of me Powellelli ( talk) 08:17, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Recently, there has been a discussion about whether " Gary Freedman completes the first electric powered aeroplane flight across the strait." is trivial information or something to mention in Cook Strait#Timeline. I would argue that if that is only considered "trivial" and should not be added, then at least 1/4 - 1/3 of the timeline section needs to be removed on those same grounds. Elijahandskip ( talk) 21:23, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Can anyone add more info on the possible plans of contructing a tunnel and/or bridge across to the other side? Is it too stormy to be feasible? I am also quite curious as to whether any steps have been taken to decide to build infrastructure links across the:
Anyone with inside knowledge on any of these? I've posted similar requests elsewhere. Gruesome Twosome! 8v // Big Adamsky 20:43, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
No serious plans that I'm aware of. There is a power cable though, linking the North and South Islands. 03:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, There is no plans that are serious that I know of. The only plan the I know of is a few hundred water turbines that would lie on the seabed and generate electricity for the country.
not sure about the geology and any potential geotechnical issues with building a tunnel but even if possible I would doubt that with a population base of 4 million people for the entire country of NZ that building such a tunnel would be feasible in the forseeable future. (unsigned)
A floating submersed cable stayed rail tunnel would be feasible, especially given the depth of the strait. The lack of population on the south island makes the project fairly unlikely, although if the tunnel were practical for commuting it could become a very heavily used link. -- Jaded-view ( talk) 23:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This is a subject that is discussed when the beer flows in the evening but it will never happen. Even a link between the nearest points on the two Islands would be one of the World's greatest structures. (It would be considerably longer than the Great Belt link and in a more hostile environment.) The population of New Zealand doesn't warrant such a building. But just getting to the closest points would require magnificent engineering. On the North Island, the area around Terawhiti is only 10km from Wellington but it is guarded by a 400 m high range. On the South Island you are looking at 30km of tunnels through hills. What most Kiwis find amusing is the speculation (normally by Americans) about a fixed link between New Zealand and Australia when Canada is nearer to Mexico than NZ is to Aus. One USA web site even claimed that Auckland Harbour Bridge is connected to Sydney Harbour Bridge. OrewaTel ( talk) 10:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Recently a map of the World showing the tide height was added without explanation. This was an animated map that showed the tide height over a complete tide cycle. The map was removed because it seemed irrelevant. That was partly because there was no explanation and partly because it was a global map whereas this article is about a small strait. Actually the map was very relevant. It showed very clearly why Cook Strait has such extreme tidal flows.
It is common for islands to act as tidal nodes. The tidal wave (and tides are waves) circles the node. New Zealand is unique in that the combined North plus South Islands act as a single tidal node but because they are separated by body of water (Cook Strait) we have the situation that two places no more than 50 km apart are subject to huge differences in tidal level. So when Cape Palliser at the East end of Cook Strait is at low water, Oteranga Bay at the West end is at high tide and vice versa. Putting it down in words is unsatisfactory whilst the animated map not only makes it plain but also shows how unusual is this situation.
I notice that the map has been reinstated with an explanatory caption. This has improved the article and the map should not be removed for a third time without a discussion here. OrewaTel ( talk) 11:06, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Powellelli, I was aware of the South Island official duel names but not for the Cook Strait. Have you got a ref so I can stop fretting. @ Powellelli:. Thanks Dushan Jugum ( talk) 07:42, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Hiya Dushan, the NZGOVT website "New Zealand History" marks the Cook Straits name as "Raukawa" or "Raukawa Moana" ( https://nzhistory.govt.nz/keyword/cook-strait), I read the "Te Moana-o-Raukawa" which was already within the wikipedia article as a correct phrasing of that but in hindsight that may have been hasty of me Powellelli ( talk) 08:17, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Recently, there has been a discussion about whether " Gary Freedman completes the first electric powered aeroplane flight across the strait." is trivial information or something to mention in Cook Strait#Timeline. I would argue that if that is only considered "trivial" and should not be added, then at least 1/4 - 1/3 of the timeline section needs to be removed on those same grounds. Elijahandskip ( talk) 21:23, 2 November 2021 (UTC)