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We have 2 objects near Kweires Airbase marked red: Military housing and air defense base. Do we have any recent proofs that they are really under SAA control? Even pro-SAA sources are giving distance estimates (between besieged and other forces) that makes me think they need to go all the way to the airbase perimeter, and not some objects outside the base. -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 15:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Usually I would not say this but what a stupid question!!! It is well known these military housing (Which is ajoined to Kurweas Airbase) is under SAA control because it is all part of the same base, ISIS have had hundreds (575) of their men killed trying to penetrate the military housing, over the last 4 months. Now have you a legit source to show that it is not in SAA hands? produce it if so, it is hard to think that you are involved with a lot of editing on this map and you ask such a brainless question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.100.66 ( talk) 16:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
We shouldn't tolerate such insulting language here! Hogg22 posed his/her question in good faith. That "unsigned" has info on IS's numerous failed attempts at storming the military housing complex doesn't make it unreasonable to someone else without this info that it may not still be in the SAA's hands. The base is large enough for the IS to have possibly occupied peripheral structures over the years that it has been besieged, while the defending troops hold on to the core areas of the base. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.129.196.85 ( talk) 00:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the map I think there are some mistakes in some places,example Jinan where it's shown goverment held since ever and now Al-Masdar report that this village is just captured by the syrian army from Isis. Lists129 ( talk) 19:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
A pro-SAA source Syrian Arab News Agency mentions list of rebel-controlled villages:
Can someone help me find them and add them to the map? -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 09:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Also on Al-Halw/Hasakah front: aranews.net reports:
-- Hogg 22 ( talk) 11:42, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the icon of Kuweires military housing be a military base icon instead of a normal icon used for villages and cities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.161.56.11 ( talk) 21:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR and pro red facebook pages states clashes in Morek and Rebel controlling parts of it. Facebook pro rebel pages claim full rebel control on Morek. I say it goes contested any ideas about that ? Helmy1453 ( talk) 21:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Interestingly enough Pro-gov sources I've seen are calling it a tactical retreat with no loss of life while rebels are claiming they are still fighting gov troops in the city — Preceding
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What percent of Morek are controlled by insurgents?
That's the most recent source who I have -- LogFTW ( talk) 09:27, 5 November 2015 (UTC) http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-reenters-the-strategic-town-of-morek-with-the-help-of-hezbollah/
We should in this instance be wary of using Al-Masdar. Masdar claimed the little towns of Mughayr and al-Bani under SAA control. Suddenly, Mughayr was taken by the SAA when they first assaulted Kafr Nabudah. al-Bani was suddenly disputed with the NDF moving towards the rebel-held checkpoint in the north. Same for Tell Othman: changed to red per Masdar, but no other source has mentioned it. Also, Masdar states that the SAA "took control of the southern entrance" of the town. This means:
Sources for making Morek fully rebel held:
Clashes are still taking place inside Morek: [11] Schluppo ( talk) 12:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Alright, but that still leaves the northern and eastern checkpoints. They are shown as red, whilst both Masdar, SOHR and neutral sources mention only fighting in the south of the town. They should be green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.204.195 ( talk) 12:55, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Pro-gov map of the area; Tall Sukayk and Tall Othman are both rebel controlled,
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/662345513342271492 — Preceding
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Agreed. Peto Lucem is the head of Al-Masdar news channel. His maps are also published on that site. The fact that pro-SAA editors make maps that show Tell Otman as rebel held is enough for us. It would be impossible for rebels to attack al-Bani if they did not control the hill and the road alongside it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:52, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto Lucem is not head of AL Masdar and has nothing to do with it .Al masdar just use his maps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.154.78 ( talk) 15:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Is it a correct observation that only military checkpoints get an extra symbol in areas that are covered by a detail map? Villages and hills do not get marked when they are located in an area that is covered by a detail map, right? I removed Tall Riman and Salihiyah which are covered by the Aleppo detail map, but my changes have been reverted. Schluppo ( talk) 10:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Kuweiris is relieved, together with the towns of Rasm Abbud (which is on the map), and Umm Arkilah. And the SAA is currently on the outskrits of Tall al Ahmar. MesmerMe ( talk) 17:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Somebody deleted my post, so here it is yet again.
Tell Othman was taken by rebels a week ago. We reverted it to SAA-control because of one Al-Masdar source. And what happens today? Excactly: Al-Masdar releases an article with a map, and it shows Tell Otman well behind rebel lines. So the hill should be green.
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/understanding-the-syrian-armys-strategic-loss-at-morek-where-do-they-go-from-here/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 11:18, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I hope this is the right place to discuss this. I am a longtime editor with journalistic and academic interest in the region; I believe this page is one of the most important publicly accessible references anywhere in the world apropos of the Syrian civil war. It would be even more useful if anyone were able to figure out how to make the current version (and possibly archived old versions) exportable as a Google Earth layer. I understand that this is not strictly speaking a purely wikipedia question, but I believe this map's importance is such that the possibility of layering it in Google Earth should be seriously discussed. I am going to have a go, but suspect there are others here who could do it easier and better than I. jackbrown ( talk) 18:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Fajdan, south of Safira, has had a green half circle for months, if not years, but I have absolutely never seen any reporting about this whatsoever. Could anybody provide a source, or remove the half circle. MesmerMe ( talk) 11:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Recently, rebels took Tell Othman near Kafr Nabudah. The hill was then changed back to red because Al-Masdar (as only source) reported that the SAA had retaken the hill. And what do we see today? An Al-Masdar article, showing a map in which Tell Otman is several kilometers behind rebel lines in Al-Bani. So the hill should be green, as was pointed out a week ago.
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/understanding-the-syrian-armys-strategic-loss-at-morek-where-do-they-go-from-here/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, somebody changed Mugahyr, the grain silos and Tell Sakhr to red. The Al-Masdar map also shows those locations as rebel-held. Change it back. There have been no sources given on this page that justify the change! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 11:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Then it should be contested? If one source reports on the same day that a village is rebel held and loyalist held, something is amiss. Since no other sources are reporting anything about a SAA counterattack, we should be cautious. Also, the hill is still not edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 16:56, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
The latest reliable source is the map from al-Masdar? The article doesn't mention tell Otman as retaken. so, edit the hill! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.204.195 ( talk) 13:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I think some towns in villages in Southern Aleppo are displayed quite larger on the map than they are in reality. Could someone have a look on this? Oberschlesien1990 ( talk) 11:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
It seams we have a problem with one stubborn user: User:LightandDark2000. Multiple users complained about his editing of the map, but he ignored everything and even deletes all complaints from his talk page. Which admin should I contact to discipline him? -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 12:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
The road linking Al-Qantari to Ayn Issa in north is not accurate. It should pass through both towns, not north of them. Look for example at google maps. Roboskiye ( talk) 11:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captured Talaylat 4-5 days ago per: http://southfront.org/international-military-rewiev-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-9-2015/ and http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-and-hezbollah-capture-talaylat-in-southern-aleppo-moroccan-field-commander-killed/ Ariskar ( talk) 12:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Earlier reliable source said that the SAA captured Army base to west of town Deir Salman and entered to the Strategic Marj Al-Sultan Airbase. here
What source(s) were used to edit villages in the Haskah Province surrounding Al-Hawl? I say this as a reliable pro-Kurdish map maker, Cizire Canton has released a [ [16]] for the 10 Nov which contradicts our map. Prohibited Area ( talk) 13:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
The villages marked as YPG-held south of Al-Hawl are a particularly strange edits. Rhocagil ( talk) 22:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I think the source is good enough to make a reverse-edit. Also ARA-news (pro-kurd) has not written anything about YPG/SDF presence south of Al-Hawl and in this interview (from today 11/11) SDF spokes-person says that they are to besiege Al-Hawl, not that it´s already under siege. A big problemm is that Al-masdar and SOHR are not writing to much about it, and when SOHR writes about it they hardly ever mention places only that there were progress. Rhocagil ( talk) 22:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Hogg 22 I reverted the edit by LightandDark2000 you referred to this time. Hopefully he can learn to start a discussion around biased sources before using them as edit-sources. Rhocagil ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Please change the status for the Al-Hadir town from contested (red+green) to red. -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:18, 12 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker iranian source
Icarda is placed on the wrong side of the road . 86.135.154.78 ( talk) 17:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Al-Eis with SAA confirmed by SOHR - http://www.syriahr.com/2015/11/%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7/ Pro-SAA sources claiming that even Tall-Bajir (SW of Hadher) taken by the army. But wait for some confirmation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.240.103.242 ( talk) 20:16, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR said that the AA/Hezbollah and NDF regain control of the town of Al Eis and the surrounding countryside, after heavy fighting in the town, with Al-Nusra and rebels. SOHR So this means that town Al Eis and Al Eis mountain and Army Fuelling Base under SAA. 46.201.74.27 ( talk) 21:18, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey, what do you think you are doing? There are already reports that the SAA did NOT, I repeat NOT, capture al-Eis and al-Hadir has already been captured back by the rebels. You are way to quick to change the map, even though the operations are still going on. Kolya60, 08:44 GMT, 12.November 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolya60 ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
See [17], [18]. Schluppo ( talk) 10:08, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Could somebody add Tell Hadiya to the map as rebel held? It just south of the ICARDA base here. MesmerMe ( talk) 10:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Al-Eis is not even close to contested, SAA/Hezb/allies are attacking Zaytan and Barqun(just norteast of ICARDA), Birnah is red according to logic. http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/intense-shelling-on-the-southern-countryside-of-aleppo-while-violent-clashes-erupt-in-the-area/ Totholio ( talk) 17:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Jubb al-Jarrah in the eastern countryside of Homs under SAA but not ISIS. SOHR 46.200.38.188 ( talk) 21:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
I think we should come up with a name that we all agree on for the Islamic State, as I don't think the names ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) or ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (Also called the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, but the group never referred to itself as this)] work, as the group controls area in Libya, Afghanistan, and has fighters spread everywhere from Algeria to northern Pakistan, far outside the Levant. For the entirety of the time I've been here on this Talk page, and doing my best to help with whatever is going on on the ground, I've referred to this group as IS (Islamic State), and, regardless of anyone's views towards the group, whether their actions and views are representative of Islam or not, I believe that is the best name for them, as they refer to themselves as this, and the name does not imply that they are restricted to a small, specific area of the globe. What are everyone else's views on this? DaJesuZ ( talk) 17:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Nice b8 m8, I r8 8/8. DaJesuZ ( talk) 04:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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Jisr Al Shughur is under the control of government forces, just wondering why you haven't shown this on the map ?
96.49.28.6 ( talk) 10:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Its not, I take it you are quoting international military review which published several videos over the last few weeks saying Jisr Al Shughur was captured but there is a media blackout in this area also, but as far as I am aware the Syrian Arab Army are around 15-20 km south of this position.
SOHR also reported that the SAA advancement in the town Sheikh Meskin and seizing some parts of it. SOHR So that means that town Sheikh Meskin contested. 46.200.38.188 ( talk) 11:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
This battle map so out of date and should be updated... 2.180.124.105 ( talk) 14:28, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto Map from November 13 showing this place under Army control https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTs_4ZXWIAACVzf.jpg:large — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 17:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC) http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-and-hezbollah-officially-capture-the-strategic-town-of-jabal-al-eiss-in-southern-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 17:59, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
This was reported on with a source a few months back, however it was decided that the source was not reliable at the time: but here in a pro government source it states ."......Syrian Government held town of Handarat and east of the rebel stronghold of Haritan;......" Source: [19] http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-and-hezbollah-launch-fresh-offensive-in-northern-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.232.159 ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
This map should really be deleted. It was reliable and stable 4 months ago but now became a place for 15 year old trolls and a place for shitposts. I don't have to mention that the map has 200 mistakes. Admin left this article months ago, they basically gave up, so I'm not sure why does this still exist. 109.175.58.213 ( talk) 19:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
If somebody is not happy with this map, he can use an alternative map and just leave this map to whom trust this map. In addition, I believe that this map is the best and most reliable and most lucid and most up-to-date map im whole internet. -- 2003:6A:6740:5E82:581C:8E48:8BBF:FF54 ( talk) 20:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
I think the Army controlled all or mosts sectors from M1 Road near Douma in Damascus map
These are lasted maps from that November 4 and 5 2015 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS_ZexIWEAA-5P1.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTEV4RIWwAA8h-0.jpg
The first source is very credible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 16:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto map proved his credibility are very good his map always are 99,99% rights . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 18:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
The source is good common... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 23:20, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Now, however, we can edit. Source. MesmerMe ( talk) 09:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Who changed back village of Nazila, between Hasaka and al-Hawl to black? This village and its surrounding has captured by YPG since a week ago. since for example this ANHA (of course pro-YPg) cameraman interviewing the local villagers: http://www.hawarnews.com/%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B2%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D8%A7/ Same is true for Masudiyah and Um Hujra north of al Hawl. These villages were among the first ones which fell to YPG. Roboskiye ( talk) 14:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captures Karkiz southern Kuwaires -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 10:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Dayr Hanna seems to be contested. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-enters-deir-hanna-in-northern-latakia/ MesmerMe ( talk) 09:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captured Deir Hanna village / Latakia (2 hours ago ?) -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:05, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Latest from Al Masdar is more towns taken i can not find them on map . 86.135.155.101 ( talk) 19:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Al Mutilla is Daghmashllay according to wikimapia . 86.135.155.101 ( talk) 20:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Breaking :SAA imposed fire control on SyriaTel hill ( just westside of Tadmur) (?) -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 12:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Opposition source reported that fierce clashes now in the surrounding of town Ayn Issa between ISIS and YPG and that ISIS advancement toward the town and YPG retreated toward Ayn Issa. source source 37.52.29.111 ( talk) 09:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Two unidentified Facebook posts? Are those sources? No, those are meaningless posts of an unknown author. We don't use those sources on this map.
town of Al Zerbah under control by rebel groups. SOHR and SAA attempts to advance towards this town. 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 11:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Several opposition sources confirmed that YPG has captured the Eastern half of the Military Base of the 121st Artillery Regiment near Hasakah after heavy clashes with ISIS. here here here here also neutral source reported about clashes between SDF and ISIS at regiment 121 in Hasaka that ISIS take from the government forces in the July 2014. here 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 18:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I´m not changing anything, but I do think it´s fair to say it´s contested. Rhocagil ( talk) 23:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Opposition source [Local Coordination Committees of Syria] reported that the ISIS retake two villages in the south of town Al Hawl and targeted the town with missiles. here 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 15:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
I think we can add on map the village Huwayr al-Eis to south from SAA-held village the Tell Bajer as under control the rebels because the SOHR reported about clashes between SAA and the Islamic fighters and Al-Nusra in this area and that Russian Air Force made several strikes of this village. SOHR 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 13:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
There is this source AlMasdar that, beside reporting the taking of the Zuwayk peak, reports two more peaks Point 482 and Point 1112 and that SAA reached Ghanimah (without taking it). Is this place Ghunaymiyah [20]? If so, SAA has moved quite north and some other locations further south could go red. Paolowalter ( talk) 18:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
This pretty much confirms all SAA movement. I further put a red halfcircle south of Qasab, as the reporting indicates, and some other kind editor changed the name of the town already. MesmerMe ( talk) 21:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
This place was turned red some days ago by Prohibited Area using [21] as source. However, tweets and maps are in general not reliable sources and indeed, there are reports that the rebels still control ICARDA base, that (Russian) Airforce is bombing the base and that SAA is currently preparing to attack it. I found no reliable source claiming that SAA/shiite militias already took ICARDA base. Summing up, I think Prohibited Area's edit should be reverted unless there is a reliable source supporting it. Schluppo ( talk) 17:47, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
There are 2 ICARDAs. One north Kuwairas, One on M5 road south-west Aleppo. The one in north in full SAA control and the one in west, only partly under SAA, while they 'clean' this vast area. 2003:6A:6740:5E82:581C:8E48:8BBF:FF54 ( talk) 20:39, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Yes it's clearly under gov. control. Is this a joke ? Now even SOHR is listed as an unreliable source. I agree that the map should be just deleted, it makes no sense. This is now not a wikipedia article but a forum where everybody thinks it's his own right to decide what or what not should be changed. No admins are present on this article. DuckZz ( talk) 22:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Of course we can not use the following, since it is a) a map and b) pro-opposition. But it at least shows the claims of pro-opposition side: [25]. Notice that reliable sources reported that SAA took Hamraa and Khalasah yesterday, so this pro-opposition map is most probably incorrect there. Other deviations: Pro-opposition map shows Rasm Sahrij, Tal Hadiyah, ICARDA, al-Barqoum, Tel-Eiz (west of al-Eis) and Sa'ibiyah under rebel control. It appears to me, that it might be the case that SAA initially captured the mentioned locations west of al-Eis some days ago and retreated at this front in the meantime. Of course this is just speculation without proper sources. So, in the interest of being objective, we should look out for any reliable sources talking about these locations. Schluppo ( talk) 19:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
That's what SOHR states, but that looks strange if we look to our map, as IS is suppossedly km. away east of that town. So there's only 3 options:
-- HC PUNXKID 19:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
fourth option: a group of insurgents has defected from their parent organization and pledged allegiance to IS. -- AliMD7176 ( talk) 21:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Following the news about civil war in Irak and Syria, we hear about important roads and Highwys. But we don't see them on the maps to get better oriented. Please someone add roads and highways also to the maps. Thanks! -> In Persian:
با دنبال کردن خبر ها در باره ی جنگ درونمرزی در عراق و سوریه و .. ما همواره چیزهایی در باره ی راه ها و شاهراه های مهم میخوانیم ولی آنهارا در نقشه پیدا نمیکنیم و نمیتوانیم جا های یاد شده را بهتر بیابیم. پس خواهشمندم که راه ها و شاهراه هارا هم به این نقشه ها بیفزایید. سپاس. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 11:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
I made a Map with Roads and Highways on base of the existent map. Here it is in png format: SyriaRoadsMap Can somebody who has the autority, replace the old one with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey i noticed that the road between manbij to raqqah via tishrin dam was missing, its a pretty important road, as its the shortest route between manbij and raqqah for IS. if you guys could find the time to add it, it would be a great addition, i dont know how to add the roads, else i would attempt it myself. Midgetman433 ( talk) 15:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
This was really good work! thanks to all that contributed! Rhocagil ( talk) 17:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your work. But the roads near Ghamam in Latakia are not in the correct position. See [34]. Schluppo ( talk) 10:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the great work with the roads, it is extremely helpful. But, could you correct the one road that goes throgh Southern Aleppo? It actually extends from Tall Daman through Burida, Kafr Abid and Blas to Sheik Said and doesnt go through al-Manatir. Thanks in advance. Oberschlesien1990 ( talk) 14:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
New modified roads map: Here is the Road Map Syria Correction 3. I corrected the road from Tall Daman to Aleppo (Sheikh Sa'id) + the Highway from Jisr-Al-Shoghur to Ariha. -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 12:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Hey could you add the al hawl road that connects the syria/iraq road to al hawl and road that connects al hawl to hasakah, it is a very important road b/c this the pathway IS uses to push further into cizire canton and the hasakah countryside, it would do a better job as to explaining the strategic importance of al-hawl and why the ypg has launched a huge offensive to capture al-hawl. b/c without the road al hawl just looks like a town in the middle of a desert, and the observer cannot understand its strategic importance. here is the road displayed on wikimapia for reference: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.387018&lon=41.060715&z=11&m=b Midgetman433 ( talk) 14:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Here is the modified Syria roads map (
Road Map Syria Correction 4) with:
1- Al-Hawl road to Hasaka and to border
2- ICRADA at the right side of Highway
3- Road from Uqayribat to Tadmur via al-Mushayrifah
4- Ain_Issa to Al-Qantari Road
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Hey could you add the road between hasakah and a town close to Raqqah called fatsat ath Thayb, the town isnt on the syrian civil war map(if you know how to add towns, could you add it also please), but it is close to hamrat balasin, which is on the wikipedia map. the road is strategically important, b/c it is a direct link between hasakah and raqqah, it will help explain the importance of the strategic hills next to khunazir, which the road passes through. the road is important, b/c IS has used it in the past to send forces to assault hasakah, and the ypg has taken towns like Ma'al al Faydat, and Khiriat ab Alshuk which are around this road, to prevent IS from pushing into hasakah. its the road running diagonally on this map http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/nl/map/cizirecanton-tap-the-map-for-information_53374#10/36.1628/39.9353 Midgetman433 ( talk) 04:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Should the red half circle, indicating that the position is being attacked, still be there? I have not seen any reporting on it in months. MesmerMe ( talk) 17:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC) MesmerMe Need to removed black semi-circle. 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 11:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
The black-red town north of Huwwarin is called Hadath, please add that.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.269275&lon=37.077999&z=13&show=/12953023/Hadath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savalito ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
These locations can be changed to red (Government control)
1:‘Umm Zilaylah
2: Tal Ayyoub
3:‘Umm Al-Marra
4: hilltop of Tal Humaymah
Here the location map:
3 recaptured villages
Source :
ASMasdar: the Syrian Arab Army and their allies imposed full control over the villages of ‘Umm Zilaylah, Tal Ayyoub, and ‘Umm Al-Marra
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AL-Masdar
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but these villages are not on the frontline. IS still holds virtually all the villages around those 3. Also, I'm adding hilltop of Tal Humaymah under SAA, from the same source. -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 09:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Do we have any information about the towns apparantly behind enemey lines. Such as Rasm al Abad? This map indicates its SAA held, which is, of course, more logical, but do people have sources? MesmerMe ( talk) 16:37, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
There are 3 more villages that I didn't revert back to my version, so when You find out who controls them, You can copy code from here:
{ lat = "36.113", long = "37.597", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Hazazah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" }, { lat = "36.107", long = "37.642 ", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Zubaydah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" }, { lat = "36.120", long = "37.666", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Harmalah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" },
-- Hogg 22 ( talk) 11:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
There are claims of some advances:
Furthermore is anybody able to locate the places mentioned in [www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-captures-the-al-zahi-mountains-in-northern-latakia/ AlMasdar]? Paolowalter ( talk) 19:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Islamic battalions taking control the villages of Harjalah and Dalhah after clashes with ISIS. SOHR 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 09:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
How come Huwwarin and Mahin are reverted to black? The Syrian Army has entered Mahin and captured Huwwarin, it was reported not so long ago.
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syriatown-of-maheen/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savalito ( talk • contribs) 11:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I want to change the description of the yellow marks/dots from "Kurds" to "Kurds & SDF". Anyone has an opinion on this? If more FSA-factions join SDF 1 2 3 4 maybe there need to be bigger changes on the map... I have no idea but I´m raising the question. Rhocagil ( talk) 01:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Yesterday SOHR mentioned clases between SAA and ISIS "in the two oilfields of Jazal and al-Sha’er": http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/clashes-in-varying-degrees-take-place-in-the-countryside-of-homs-while-civilians-wounded-during-the-rocket-shelling-by-modern-missiles-on-the-countryside-of-idlib/ Today SOHR reports clashes at al-Shaer and Jihar oilfields. Jihar is really not on the front, but between Tadmor and Tiyas (even nearer to Tiyas). Are there some other reports from there? Here SOHR-article of today (but now only in arabic): http://www.syriahr.com/2015/11/أرياف-حمص-الشمالية-والشرقية-والجنوبي But if the report is true, that would mean, that the SAA retreat from the Daw-region (where there are fightings since a week). By the way: On our map "Daw" is only a dot. In fact, it is the whole fertile area between this dot and the Jihar field. Or am I wrong? Mughira1395 ( talk) 12:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
YPG have captured the 121th regiment Melabiyah and the village of Khama'il south of city Hasakah. source source 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 19:01, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
In a continued effort to mark key locations at Hasakah province, it would be good to mark these two since they are key positions likely to be targeted in SDF's ongoing offensive.
Gubaissah oil field: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.138707&lon=41.055565&z=12&m=b&permpoly=883098
Mt Jabisah: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.140509&lon=40.824680&z=13&m=b&permpoly=883098
October/Tishreen oilfields: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.140509&lon=40.824680&z=13&m=b&permpoly=883098
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We should also make Al-Hawl held jointly by the YPG and the FSA. This article from AraNews (a reliable Kurdish-orientated source for Syria) says several FSA groups are participating in the offensive in Hasakah: http://aranews.net/2015/11/war-on-isis-unites-syrian-kurds-arabs-and-christians/ . It mentions the Arab Al-Sanadeed Force, the Shams ash-Shamal Brigades and the Liwa Tahrir Souriya of the Free Syrian Army. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 19:32, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Indeed, although do note that Sanadeed is *not* an FSA group but under YPG umbrella, in any case FSA did participate in getting control of Al Hol so yellow-green seems just logical.
179.32.127.220 ( talk) 02:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
ICARDA, Barqum and areas around them are still under rebel control according to both pro-regime and pro-rebel maps. The only map I've seen that suggests that they are is Peto, which alone is far from sufficient. Should be changed. 74.15.172.30 ( talk) 18:17, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Finally, a reliable source stating the obvious, i.e. the "recapture of the ICARDA facility and several other sites" by rebels [36]. Also rebels "have launched a counter-offensive at the strategic town of Tal Al-‘Eiss" [37]. Schluppo ( talk) 00:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
The source used to put a green halfcircle on the Southern Edges of Banes should really be used to turn it green, or at least contested. Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/harakat-ahrar-al-sham-recapture-5-farms-at-banes-in-southern-aleppo/ MesmerMe ( talk) 10:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is Tell Otman still marked as red ? Everyone is saying its under rebel control for weeks. They're basically eating on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.77.177 ( talk) 18:42, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about the clashes between ISIS against YPG, backed by rebels, in the town of Ayn Issa. here 178.94.220.190 ( talk) 07:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR repored that the after clashes against ISIS near Mahin, SAA and NDF retake two hills and Army Storage Base. SOHR 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 18:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Also SAA retake Jabal Mahin near town Mahin. source 46.200.240.93 ( talk) 19:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Source : AlMasdar
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The town of Mahin(currently shown in Black as a town controlled by IS)and Hawwarin(shown as contested) were recaptured by the Syrian Army today. This is according to the Associated Press http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-23-08-20-03 and the BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34899278 .Thus I believe the map requires some changes GERALD710 ( talk) 14:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Over the last 3 or 4 months, it has been hard to understand if the town of Mahajjah along the vital Daraa-Damascus highway has been under rebel control or not. It was shown on and off, mostly on, as a rebel-controlled town on the template and the png. map until mid October. As of today it has been added as rebel-controlled again. However I have not seen any information on the web about this. It seems unlikely as this would cause serious problems for the Syrian army trying to resupply Daraa from Damascus and it would be bigger news. Also the Damascus part of the map does not show opposition control of the city of Kanakir (under truce I believe) or their control of half of Kiswa in the Southern coutryside of Damascus. I am sure you get a lot of nervous requests to change the map but these are long-standing things that I noticed and am pretty sure need a correction.
Finally, you provide an invaluable service and if I can be of any assistance, I would be glad to help out.
Christian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.2.154.34 ( talk) 16:52, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Kurdish sources: Ongoing clashes between YPG and Nusra/Sham in the village Basufan in Afrin. ANHA here 95.134.222.195 ( talk) 17:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
From the map, one would assume that the Latakkia frontline has remained static yet in reality, the Syrian Army has mostly advanced. I think the map on this site http://www.modernfrontlines.com/2015/11/21/1401-syrian-army/ paints an accurate picture. It also shows villages the army has recently captured like Deir Hanna. The wikipedia map continues to show the October 7 frontline while this site shows the changes that have occured since then up to 21st November.Please update the map accordingly GERALD710 ( talk) 15:13, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Our map has been updated regularly (including Deir Hanna). I did not add all hills taken by SAA in order not to clutter the map. Changes are not so apparent because the territory seized is relatively small. Paolowalter ( talk) 23:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Some editors are changing arbitrarily yellow (YPG) controlled locations to mixed yellow-green just to demonstrate that FSA (green) has some presence in areas where it hasn't. Unless the presence of FSA group is proved the locations must remain yellow. The change of name fro YPG to SDF does not change the fact that those areas are YPG controlled. Please stop vandalizing the page. I'll start to revert them Paolowalter ( talk) 20:27, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
What is understood as rebels are islamic factions fighting the government. SDF fight IS. In fact is Hasaka government and YPG controlled areas live side by side. Actually yellow and mixed green-yellow appears to be scattered randomly. Paolowalter ( talk) 23:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
The SAA captured and secured the Marj al Sultan - Al-Nawlah road, with JAN retreating to Marj al Sultan town/village. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/news-alert-syrian-army-seizes-strategic-road-in-rural-damascus/ Therefore: Nawlah, Hawash al-Dumal and Ruwan small villages have to be under SAA Marj al Sultan is still fully Jabhat al Nusra controlled, so is the North airfield Ariskar ( talk) 12:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Reliable source reported that the SAA took control of Kitf al Ghanmeh, Mallouha, Rwayset al-Malluha, Al-Rashwan, Tall Antouz, Ain Samura in Reef Latakia. here SOHR 178.94.220.190 ( talk) 20:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA retake Jabal al-Nuba and Jabal Zahiya(Al-Zahi Mountains) and advance in the area of Ateera. SOHR source 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 19:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA advance and regain control of the points and hills in the surroundings of the town Al Qaryatayn to south-east of the city Homs. SOHR source source Pro government source reported that the SAA retake five villages and towns in the Homs countryside. Breaking News 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 21:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Is anubody able to locate Khirbat Samar in Al-Sweida [AlMasdar http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-captures-the-village-of-khirbat-samar-in-al-sweida/]? Paolowalter ( talk) 08:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between ISIS and YPG in several axes in surroundings of Mount Abdulaziz where YPG advance and take control of the five villages, farms and communities. SOHR 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 16:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
[SOHR http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/continued-clashes-in-sahm-al-jolan-and-advances-for-regime-forces-in-dara-countryside/] report that SAA too control of Kherba Komjra village. Is anybody able to locate it? Paolowalter ( talk) 15:29, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Village Banes south of Aleppo still under SAA. SOHR only said about uncertain information about the progress of the rebels in the vicinity of village Bans. But not said that rebels captured this village. SOHR 37.52.29.233 ( talk) 12:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
village Zawr Mughar to east of Jarablus contested YPG and ISIS. here 37.52.29.233 ( talk) 17:19, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
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Jabal Hayyan under SAA control Ald Aba ( talk) 19:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is Deir Jamal shown as YPG held? According to rebel maps it is controlled by rebel forces. This would make sense as it is located along the Azaz-Aleppo road which is under complete control of the rebels of which have clashes with the Efrin YPG after the YPG advanced on villages close to Azaz and the road which could jeoporadise the supply route. May I have the authorisation to change the town to green? Prohibited Area ( talk) 16:09, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Maybe so but which rebel,Nusra ,SDF or FSA .There seems to be a major fight going on in this region between rebel groups until there is confirmation i think its best left alone . 86.178.102.85 ( talk) 12:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Deir Jamal is also controlled by YPG since 2014. Selocan49 ( talk) 16:11, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I will let various international sources do the talking. Please do not change colors relying on how you wish to see the map.
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We have 2 objects near Kweires Airbase marked red: Military housing and air defense base. Do we have any recent proofs that they are really under SAA control? Even pro-SAA sources are giving distance estimates (between besieged and other forces) that makes me think they need to go all the way to the airbase perimeter, and not some objects outside the base. -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 15:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Usually I would not say this but what a stupid question!!! It is well known these military housing (Which is ajoined to Kurweas Airbase) is under SAA control because it is all part of the same base, ISIS have had hundreds (575) of their men killed trying to penetrate the military housing, over the last 4 months. Now have you a legit source to show that it is not in SAA hands? produce it if so, it is hard to think that you are involved with a lot of editing on this map and you ask such a brainless question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.1.100.66 ( talk) 16:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
We shouldn't tolerate such insulting language here! Hogg22 posed his/her question in good faith. That "unsigned" has info on IS's numerous failed attempts at storming the military housing complex doesn't make it unreasonable to someone else without this info that it may not still be in the SAA's hands. The base is large enough for the IS to have possibly occupied peripheral structures over the years that it has been besieged, while the defending troops hold on to the core areas of the base. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.129.196.85 ( talk) 00:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Regarding the map I think there are some mistakes in some places,example Jinan where it's shown goverment held since ever and now Al-Masdar report that this village is just captured by the syrian army from Isis. Lists129 ( talk) 19:25, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
A pro-SAA source Syrian Arab News Agency mentions list of rebel-controlled villages:
Can someone help me find them and add them to the map? -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 09:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Also on Al-Halw/Hasakah front: aranews.net reports:
-- Hogg 22 ( talk) 11:42, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't the icon of Kuweires military housing be a military base icon instead of a normal icon used for villages and cities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.161.56.11 ( talk) 21:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR and pro red facebook pages states clashes in Morek and Rebel controlling parts of it. Facebook pro rebel pages claim full rebel control on Morek. I say it goes contested any ideas about that ? Helmy1453 ( talk) 21:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Interestingly enough Pro-gov sources I've seen are calling it a tactical retreat with no loss of life while rebels are claiming they are still fighting gov troops in the city — Preceding
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What percent of Morek are controlled by insurgents?
That's the most recent source who I have -- LogFTW ( talk) 09:27, 5 November 2015 (UTC) http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-reenters-the-strategic-town-of-morek-with-the-help-of-hezbollah/
We should in this instance be wary of using Al-Masdar. Masdar claimed the little towns of Mughayr and al-Bani under SAA control. Suddenly, Mughayr was taken by the SAA when they first assaulted Kafr Nabudah. al-Bani was suddenly disputed with the NDF moving towards the rebel-held checkpoint in the north. Same for Tell Othman: changed to red per Masdar, but no other source has mentioned it. Also, Masdar states that the SAA "took control of the southern entrance" of the town. This means:
Sources for making Morek fully rebel held:
Clashes are still taking place inside Morek: [11] Schluppo ( talk) 12:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Alright, but that still leaves the northern and eastern checkpoints. They are shown as red, whilst both Masdar, SOHR and neutral sources mention only fighting in the south of the town. They should be green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.204.195 ( talk) 12:55, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Pro-gov map of the area; Tall Sukayk and Tall Othman are both rebel controlled,
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/662345513342271492 — Preceding
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Agreed. Peto Lucem is the head of Al-Masdar news channel. His maps are also published on that site. The fact that pro-SAA editors make maps that show Tell Otman as rebel held is enough for us. It would be impossible for rebels to attack al-Bani if they did not control the hill and the road alongside it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:52, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto Lucem is not head of AL Masdar and has nothing to do with it .Al masdar just use his maps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.154.78 ( talk) 15:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Is it a correct observation that only military checkpoints get an extra symbol in areas that are covered by a detail map? Villages and hills do not get marked when they are located in an area that is covered by a detail map, right? I removed Tall Riman and Salihiyah which are covered by the Aleppo detail map, but my changes have been reverted. Schluppo ( talk) 10:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Kuweiris is relieved, together with the towns of Rasm Abbud (which is on the map), and Umm Arkilah. And the SAA is currently on the outskrits of Tall al Ahmar. MesmerMe ( talk) 17:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Somebody deleted my post, so here it is yet again.
Tell Othman was taken by rebels a week ago. We reverted it to SAA-control because of one Al-Masdar source. And what happens today? Excactly: Al-Masdar releases an article with a map, and it shows Tell Otman well behind rebel lines. So the hill should be green.
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/understanding-the-syrian-armys-strategic-loss-at-morek-where-do-they-go-from-here/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 11:18, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I hope this is the right place to discuss this. I am a longtime editor with journalistic and academic interest in the region; I believe this page is one of the most important publicly accessible references anywhere in the world apropos of the Syrian civil war. It would be even more useful if anyone were able to figure out how to make the current version (and possibly archived old versions) exportable as a Google Earth layer. I understand that this is not strictly speaking a purely wikipedia question, but I believe this map's importance is such that the possibility of layering it in Google Earth should be seriously discussed. I am going to have a go, but suspect there are others here who could do it easier and better than I. jackbrown ( talk) 18:05, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Fajdan, south of Safira, has had a green half circle for months, if not years, but I have absolutely never seen any reporting about this whatsoever. Could anybody provide a source, or remove the half circle. MesmerMe ( talk) 11:30, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Recently, rebels took Tell Othman near Kafr Nabudah. The hill was then changed back to red because Al-Masdar (as only source) reported that the SAA had retaken the hill. And what do we see today? An Al-Masdar article, showing a map in which Tell Otman is several kilometers behind rebel lines in Al-Bani. So the hill should be green, as was pointed out a week ago.
Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/understanding-the-syrian-armys-strategic-loss-at-morek-where-do-they-go-from-here/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 10:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Also, somebody changed Mugahyr, the grain silos and Tell Sakhr to red. The Al-Masdar map also shows those locations as rebel-held. Change it back. There have been no sources given on this page that justify the change! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 11:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Then it should be contested? If one source reports on the same day that a village is rebel held and loyalist held, something is amiss. Since no other sources are reporting anything about a SAA counterattack, we should be cautious. Also, the hill is still not edited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 16:56, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
The latest reliable source is the map from al-Masdar? The article doesn't mention tell Otman as retaken. so, edit the hill! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.204.195 ( talk) 13:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I think some towns in villages in Southern Aleppo are displayed quite larger on the map than they are in reality. Could someone have a look on this? Oberschlesien1990 ( talk) 11:44, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
It seams we have a problem with one stubborn user: User:LightandDark2000. Multiple users complained about his editing of the map, but he ignored everything and even deletes all complaints from his talk page. Which admin should I contact to discipline him? -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 12:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
The road linking Al-Qantari to Ayn Issa in north is not accurate. It should pass through both towns, not north of them. Look for example at google maps. Roboskiye ( talk) 11:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captured Talaylat 4-5 days ago per: http://southfront.org/international-military-rewiev-syria-iraq-battlespace-nov-9-2015/ and http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-and-hezbollah-capture-talaylat-in-southern-aleppo-moroccan-field-commander-killed/ Ariskar ( talk) 12:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Earlier reliable source said that the SAA captured Army base to west of town Deir Salman and entered to the Strategic Marj Al-Sultan Airbase. here
What source(s) were used to edit villages in the Haskah Province surrounding Al-Hawl? I say this as a reliable pro-Kurdish map maker, Cizire Canton has released a [ [16]] for the 10 Nov which contradicts our map. Prohibited Area ( talk) 13:54, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
The villages marked as YPG-held south of Al-Hawl are a particularly strange edits. Rhocagil ( talk) 22:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I think the source is good enough to make a reverse-edit. Also ARA-news (pro-kurd) has not written anything about YPG/SDF presence south of Al-Hawl and in this interview (from today 11/11) SDF spokes-person says that they are to besiege Al-Hawl, not that it´s already under siege. A big problemm is that Al-masdar and SOHR are not writing to much about it, and when SOHR writes about it they hardly ever mention places only that there were progress. Rhocagil ( talk) 22:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Hogg 22 I reverted the edit by LightandDark2000 you referred to this time. Hopefully he can learn to start a discussion around biased sources before using them as edit-sources. Rhocagil ( talk) 17:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Please change the status for the Al-Hadir town from contested (red+green) to red. -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:18, 12 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker iranian source
Icarda is placed on the wrong side of the road . 86.135.154.78 ( talk) 17:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Al-Eis with SAA confirmed by SOHR - http://www.syriahr.com/2015/11/%D8%AD%D8%B2%D8%A8-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A-%D9%88%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%8A%D8%B3%D9%8A%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7/ Pro-SAA sources claiming that even Tall-Bajir (SW of Hadher) taken by the army. But wait for some confirmation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.240.103.242 ( talk) 20:16, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR said that the AA/Hezbollah and NDF regain control of the town of Al Eis and the surrounding countryside, after heavy fighting in the town, with Al-Nusra and rebels. SOHR So this means that town Al Eis and Al Eis mountain and Army Fuelling Base under SAA. 46.201.74.27 ( talk) 21:18, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Hey, what do you think you are doing? There are already reports that the SAA did NOT, I repeat NOT, capture al-Eis and al-Hadir has already been captured back by the rebels. You are way to quick to change the map, even though the operations are still going on. Kolya60, 08:44 GMT, 12.November 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kolya60 ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
See [17], [18]. Schluppo ( talk) 10:08, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Could somebody add Tell Hadiya to the map as rebel held? It just south of the ICARDA base here. MesmerMe ( talk) 10:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Al-Eis is not even close to contested, SAA/Hezb/allies are attacking Zaytan and Barqun(just norteast of ICARDA), Birnah is red according to logic. http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/intense-shelling-on-the-southern-countryside-of-aleppo-while-violent-clashes-erupt-in-the-area/ Totholio ( talk) 17:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Jubb al-Jarrah in the eastern countryside of Homs under SAA but not ISIS. SOHR 46.200.38.188 ( talk) 21:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
I think we should come up with a name that we all agree on for the Islamic State, as I don't think the names ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) or ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (Also called the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, but the group never referred to itself as this)] work, as the group controls area in Libya, Afghanistan, and has fighters spread everywhere from Algeria to northern Pakistan, far outside the Levant. For the entirety of the time I've been here on this Talk page, and doing my best to help with whatever is going on on the ground, I've referred to this group as IS (Islamic State), and, regardless of anyone's views towards the group, whether their actions and views are representative of Islam or not, I believe that is the best name for them, as they refer to themselves as this, and the name does not imply that they are restricted to a small, specific area of the globe. What are everyone else's views on this? DaJesuZ ( talk) 17:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Nice b8 m8, I r8 8/8. DaJesuZ ( talk) 04:31, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
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Jisr Al Shughur is under the control of government forces, just wondering why you haven't shown this on the map ?
96.49.28.6 ( talk) 10:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Its not, I take it you are quoting international military review which published several videos over the last few weeks saying Jisr Al Shughur was captured but there is a media blackout in this area also, but as far as I am aware the Syrian Arab Army are around 15-20 km south of this position.
SOHR also reported that the SAA advancement in the town Sheikh Meskin and seizing some parts of it. SOHR So that means that town Sheikh Meskin contested. 46.200.38.188 ( talk) 11:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
This battle map so out of date and should be updated... 2.180.124.105 ( talk) 14:28, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto Map from November 13 showing this place under Army control https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTs_4ZXWIAACVzf.jpg:large — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 17:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC) http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-and-hezbollah-officially-capture-the-strategic-town-of-jabal-al-eiss-in-southern-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 17:59, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
This was reported on with a source a few months back, however it was decided that the source was not reliable at the time: but here in a pro government source it states ."......Syrian Government held town of Handarat and east of the rebel stronghold of Haritan;......" Source: [19] http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-and-hezbollah-launch-fresh-offensive-in-northern-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.94.232.159 ( talk) 23:07, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
This map should really be deleted. It was reliable and stable 4 months ago but now became a place for 15 year old trolls and a place for shitposts. I don't have to mention that the map has 200 mistakes. Admin left this article months ago, they basically gave up, so I'm not sure why does this still exist. 109.175.58.213 ( talk) 19:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
If somebody is not happy with this map, he can use an alternative map and just leave this map to whom trust this map. In addition, I believe that this map is the best and most reliable and most lucid and most up-to-date map im whole internet. -- 2003:6A:6740:5E82:581C:8E48:8BBF:FF54 ( talk) 20:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
I think the Army controlled all or mosts sectors from M1 Road near Douma in Damascus map
These are lasted maps from that November 4 and 5 2015 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS_ZexIWEAA-5P1.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTEV4RIWwAA8h-0.jpg
The first source is very credible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 16:06, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Peto map proved his credibility are very good his map always are 99,99% rights . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 18:57, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
The source is good common... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.84.36.197 ( talk) 23:20, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
Now, however, we can edit. Source. MesmerMe ( talk) 09:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Who changed back village of Nazila, between Hasaka and al-Hawl to black? This village and its surrounding has captured by YPG since a week ago. since for example this ANHA (of course pro-YPg) cameraman interviewing the local villagers: http://www.hawarnews.com/%D8%A3%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B2%D9%8A%D9%84%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7-%D8%A7/ Same is true for Masudiyah and Um Hujra north of al Hawl. These villages were among the first ones which fell to YPG. Roboskiye ( talk) 14:54, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captures Karkiz southern Kuwaires -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 10:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Dayr Hanna seems to be contested. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-enters-deir-hanna-in-northern-latakia/ MesmerMe ( talk) 09:06, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA captured Deir Hanna village / Latakia (2 hours ago ?) -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:05, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Latest from Al Masdar is more towns taken i can not find them on map . 86.135.155.101 ( talk) 19:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Al Mutilla is Daghmashllay according to wikimapia . 86.135.155.101 ( talk) 20:01, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Breaking :SAA imposed fire control on SyriaTel hill ( just westside of Tadmur) (?) -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 12:43, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Opposition source reported that fierce clashes now in the surrounding of town Ayn Issa between ISIS and YPG and that ISIS advancement toward the town and YPG retreated toward Ayn Issa. source source 37.52.29.111 ( talk) 09:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Two unidentified Facebook posts? Are those sources? No, those are meaningless posts of an unknown author. We don't use those sources on this map.
town of Al Zerbah under control by rebel groups. SOHR and SAA attempts to advance towards this town. 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 11:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Several opposition sources confirmed that YPG has captured the Eastern half of the Military Base of the 121st Artillery Regiment near Hasakah after heavy clashes with ISIS. here here here here also neutral source reported about clashes between SDF and ISIS at regiment 121 in Hasaka that ISIS take from the government forces in the July 2014. here 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 18:03, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
I´m not changing anything, but I do think it´s fair to say it´s contested. Rhocagil ( talk) 23:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Opposition source [Local Coordination Committees of Syria] reported that the ISIS retake two villages in the south of town Al Hawl and targeted the town with missiles. here 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 15:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
I think we can add on map the village Huwayr al-Eis to south from SAA-held village the Tell Bajer as under control the rebels because the SOHR reported about clashes between SAA and the Islamic fighters and Al-Nusra in this area and that Russian Air Force made several strikes of this village. SOHR 95.134.186.238 ( talk) 13:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
There is this source AlMasdar that, beside reporting the taking of the Zuwayk peak, reports two more peaks Point 482 and Point 1112 and that SAA reached Ghanimah (without taking it). Is this place Ghunaymiyah [20]? If so, SAA has moved quite north and some other locations further south could go red. Paolowalter ( talk) 18:41, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
This pretty much confirms all SAA movement. I further put a red halfcircle south of Qasab, as the reporting indicates, and some other kind editor changed the name of the town already. MesmerMe ( talk) 21:36, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
This place was turned red some days ago by Prohibited Area using [21] as source. However, tweets and maps are in general not reliable sources and indeed, there are reports that the rebels still control ICARDA base, that (Russian) Airforce is bombing the base and that SAA is currently preparing to attack it. I found no reliable source claiming that SAA/shiite militias already took ICARDA base. Summing up, I think Prohibited Area's edit should be reverted unless there is a reliable source supporting it. Schluppo ( talk) 17:47, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
There are 2 ICARDAs. One north Kuwairas, One on M5 road south-west Aleppo. The one in north in full SAA control and the one in west, only partly under SAA, while they 'clean' this vast area. 2003:6A:6740:5E82:581C:8E48:8BBF:FF54 ( talk) 20:39, 16 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Yes it's clearly under gov. control. Is this a joke ? Now even SOHR is listed as an unreliable source. I agree that the map should be just deleted, it makes no sense. This is now not a wikipedia article but a forum where everybody thinks it's his own right to decide what or what not should be changed. No admins are present on this article. DuckZz ( talk) 22:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Of course we can not use the following, since it is a) a map and b) pro-opposition. But it at least shows the claims of pro-opposition side: [25]. Notice that reliable sources reported that SAA took Hamraa and Khalasah yesterday, so this pro-opposition map is most probably incorrect there. Other deviations: Pro-opposition map shows Rasm Sahrij, Tal Hadiyah, ICARDA, al-Barqoum, Tel-Eiz (west of al-Eis) and Sa'ibiyah under rebel control. It appears to me, that it might be the case that SAA initially captured the mentioned locations west of al-Eis some days ago and retreated at this front in the meantime. Of course this is just speculation without proper sources. So, in the interest of being objective, we should look out for any reliable sources talking about these locations. Schluppo ( talk) 19:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
That's what SOHR states, but that looks strange if we look to our map, as IS is suppossedly km. away east of that town. So there's only 3 options:
-- HC PUNXKID 19:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
fourth option: a group of insurgents has defected from their parent organization and pledged allegiance to IS. -- AliMD7176 ( talk) 21:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Following the news about civil war in Irak and Syria, we hear about important roads and Highwys. But we don't see them on the maps to get better oriented. Please someone add roads and highways also to the maps. Thanks! -> In Persian:
با دنبال کردن خبر ها در باره ی جنگ درونمرزی در عراق و سوریه و .. ما همواره چیزهایی در باره ی راه ها و شاهراه های مهم میخوانیم ولی آنهارا در نقشه پیدا نمیکنیم و نمیتوانیم جا های یاد شده را بهتر بیابیم. پس خواهشمندم که راه ها و شاهراه هارا هم به این نقشه ها بیفزایید. سپاس. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 11:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
I made a Map with Roads and Highways on base of the existent map. Here it is in png format: SyriaRoadsMap Can somebody who has the autority, replace the old one with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 13:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey i noticed that the road between manbij to raqqah via tishrin dam was missing, its a pretty important road, as its the shortest route between manbij and raqqah for IS. if you guys could find the time to add it, it would be a great addition, i dont know how to add the roads, else i would attempt it myself. Midgetman433 ( talk) 15:45, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
This was really good work! thanks to all that contributed! Rhocagil ( talk) 17:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your work. But the roads near Ghamam in Latakia are not in the correct position. See [34]. Schluppo ( talk) 10:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the great work with the roads, it is extremely helpful. But, could you correct the one road that goes throgh Southern Aleppo? It actually extends from Tall Daman through Burida, Kafr Abid and Blas to Sheik Said and doesnt go through al-Manatir. Thanks in advance. Oberschlesien1990 ( talk) 14:28, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
New modified roads map: Here is the Road Map Syria Correction 3. I corrected the road from Tall Daman to Aleppo (Sheikh Sa'id) + the Highway from Jisr-Al-Shoghur to Ariha. -- 212.75.52.4 ( talk) 12:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)MapMaker
Hey could you add the al hawl road that connects the syria/iraq road to al hawl and road that connects al hawl to hasakah, it is a very important road b/c this the pathway IS uses to push further into cizire canton and the hasakah countryside, it would do a better job as to explaining the strategic importance of al-hawl and why the ypg has launched a huge offensive to capture al-hawl. b/c without the road al hawl just looks like a town in the middle of a desert, and the observer cannot understand its strategic importance. here is the road displayed on wikimapia for reference: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.387018&lon=41.060715&z=11&m=b Midgetman433 ( talk) 14:54, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Here is the modified Syria roads map (
Road Map Syria Correction 4) with:
1- Al-Hawl road to Hasaka and to border
2- ICRADA at the right side of Highway
3- Road from Uqayribat to Tadmur via al-Mushayrifah
4- Ain_Issa to Al-Qantari Road
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Hey could you add the road between hasakah and a town close to Raqqah called fatsat ath Thayb, the town isnt on the syrian civil war map(if you know how to add towns, could you add it also please), but it is close to hamrat balasin, which is on the wikipedia map. the road is strategically important, b/c it is a direct link between hasakah and raqqah, it will help explain the importance of the strategic hills next to khunazir, which the road passes through. the road is important, b/c IS has used it in the past to send forces to assault hasakah, and the ypg has taken towns like Ma'al al Faydat, and Khiriat ab Alshuk which are around this road, to prevent IS from pushing into hasakah. its the road running diagonally on this map http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/nl/map/cizirecanton-tap-the-map-for-information_53374#10/36.1628/39.9353 Midgetman433 ( talk) 04:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Should the red half circle, indicating that the position is being attacked, still be there? I have not seen any reporting on it in months. MesmerMe ( talk) 17:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC) MesmerMe Need to removed black semi-circle. 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 11:21, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
The black-red town north of Huwwarin is called Hadath, please add that.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.269275&lon=37.077999&z=13&show=/12953023/Hadath — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savalito ( talk • contribs) 11:30, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
These locations can be changed to red (Government control)
1:‘Umm Zilaylah
2: Tal Ayyoub
3:‘Umm Al-Marra
4: hilltop of Tal Humaymah
Here the location map:
3 recaptured villages
Source :
ASMasdar: the Syrian Arab Army and their allies imposed full control over the villages of ‘Umm Zilaylah, Tal Ayyoub, and ‘Umm Al-Marra
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212.75.52.4 (
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AL-Masdar
reports:
but these villages are not on the frontline. IS still holds virtually all the villages around those 3. Also, I'm adding hilltop of Tal Humaymah under SAA, from the same source. -- Hogg 22 ( talk) 09:02, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Do we have any information about the towns apparantly behind enemey lines. Such as Rasm al Abad? This map indicates its SAA held, which is, of course, more logical, but do people have sources? MesmerMe ( talk) 16:37, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
There are 3 more villages that I didn't revert back to my version, so when You find out who controls them, You can copy code from here:
{ lat = "36.113", long = "37.597", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Hazazah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" }, { lat = "36.107", long = "37.642 ", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Zubaydah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" }, { lat = "36.120", long = "37.666", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "5", label = "[[Harmalah]]", label_size = "0", position = "top" },
-- Hogg 22 ( talk) 11:35, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
There are claims of some advances:
Furthermore is anybody able to locate the places mentioned in [www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-captures-the-al-zahi-mountains-in-northern-latakia/ AlMasdar]? Paolowalter ( talk) 19:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Islamic battalions taking control the villages of Harjalah and Dalhah after clashes with ISIS. SOHR 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 09:57, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
How come Huwwarin and Mahin are reverted to black? The Syrian Army has entered Mahin and captured Huwwarin, it was reported not so long ago.
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syriatown-of-maheen/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savalito ( talk • contribs) 11:18, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
I want to change the description of the yellow marks/dots from "Kurds" to "Kurds & SDF". Anyone has an opinion on this? If more FSA-factions join SDF 1 2 3 4 maybe there need to be bigger changes on the map... I have no idea but I´m raising the question. Rhocagil ( talk) 01:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Yesterday SOHR mentioned clases between SAA and ISIS "in the two oilfields of Jazal and al-Sha’er": http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/clashes-in-varying-degrees-take-place-in-the-countryside-of-homs-while-civilians-wounded-during-the-rocket-shelling-by-modern-missiles-on-the-countryside-of-idlib/ Today SOHR reports clashes at al-Shaer and Jihar oilfields. Jihar is really not on the front, but between Tadmor and Tiyas (even nearer to Tiyas). Are there some other reports from there? Here SOHR-article of today (but now only in arabic): http://www.syriahr.com/2015/11/أرياف-حمص-الشمالية-والشرقية-والجنوبي But if the report is true, that would mean, that the SAA retreat from the Daw-region (where there are fightings since a week). By the way: On our map "Daw" is only a dot. In fact, it is the whole fertile area between this dot and the Jihar field. Or am I wrong? Mughira1395 ( talk) 12:36, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
YPG have captured the 121th regiment Melabiyah and the village of Khama'il south of city Hasakah. source source 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 19:01, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
In a continued effort to mark key locations at Hasakah province, it would be good to mark these two since they are key positions likely to be targeted in SDF's ongoing offensive.
Gubaissah oil field: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.138707&lon=41.055565&z=12&m=b&permpoly=883098
Mt Jabisah: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.140509&lon=40.824680&z=13&m=b&permpoly=883098
October/Tishreen oilfields: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.140509&lon=40.824680&z=13&m=b&permpoly=883098
179.32.127.220 (
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We should also make Al-Hawl held jointly by the YPG and the FSA. This article from AraNews (a reliable Kurdish-orientated source for Syria) says several FSA groups are participating in the offensive in Hasakah: http://aranews.net/2015/11/war-on-isis-unites-syrian-kurds-arabs-and-christians/ . It mentions the Arab Al-Sanadeed Force, the Shams ash-Shamal Brigades and the Liwa Tahrir Souriya of the Free Syrian Army. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 19:32, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Indeed, although do note that Sanadeed is *not* an FSA group but under YPG umbrella, in any case FSA did participate in getting control of Al Hol so yellow-green seems just logical.
179.32.127.220 ( talk) 02:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
ICARDA, Barqum and areas around them are still under rebel control according to both pro-regime and pro-rebel maps. The only map I've seen that suggests that they are is Peto, which alone is far from sufficient. Should be changed. 74.15.172.30 ( talk) 18:17, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Finally, a reliable source stating the obvious, i.e. the "recapture of the ICARDA facility and several other sites" by rebels [36]. Also rebels "have launched a counter-offensive at the strategic town of Tal Al-‘Eiss" [37]. Schluppo ( talk) 00:55, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
The source used to put a green halfcircle on the Southern Edges of Banes should really be used to turn it green, or at least contested. Source: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/harakat-ahrar-al-sham-recapture-5-farms-at-banes-in-southern-aleppo/ MesmerMe ( talk) 10:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is Tell Otman still marked as red ? Everyone is saying its under rebel control for weeks. They're basically eating on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.77.177 ( talk) 18:42, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about the clashes between ISIS against YPG, backed by rebels, in the town of Ayn Issa. here 178.94.220.190 ( talk) 07:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR repored that the after clashes against ISIS near Mahin, SAA and NDF retake two hills and Army Storage Base. SOHR 37.52.28.53 ( talk) 18:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
Also SAA retake Jabal Mahin near town Mahin. source 46.200.240.93 ( talk) 19:22, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Source : AlMasdar
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The town of Mahin(currently shown in Black as a town controlled by IS)and Hawwarin(shown as contested) were recaptured by the Syrian Army today. This is according to the Associated Press http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-23-08-20-03 and the BBC http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34899278 .Thus I believe the map requires some changes GERALD710 ( talk) 14:21, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Over the last 3 or 4 months, it has been hard to understand if the town of Mahajjah along the vital Daraa-Damascus highway has been under rebel control or not. It was shown on and off, mostly on, as a rebel-controlled town on the template and the png. map until mid October. As of today it has been added as rebel-controlled again. However I have not seen any information on the web about this. It seems unlikely as this would cause serious problems for the Syrian army trying to resupply Daraa from Damascus and it would be bigger news. Also the Damascus part of the map does not show opposition control of the city of Kanakir (under truce I believe) or their control of half of Kiswa in the Southern coutryside of Damascus. I am sure you get a lot of nervous requests to change the map but these are long-standing things that I noticed and am pretty sure need a correction.
Finally, you provide an invaluable service and if I can be of any assistance, I would be glad to help out.
Christian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.2.154.34 ( talk) 16:52, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Kurdish sources: Ongoing clashes between YPG and Nusra/Sham in the village Basufan in Afrin. ANHA here 95.134.222.195 ( talk) 17:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
From the map, one would assume that the Latakkia frontline has remained static yet in reality, the Syrian Army has mostly advanced. I think the map on this site http://www.modernfrontlines.com/2015/11/21/1401-syrian-army/ paints an accurate picture. It also shows villages the army has recently captured like Deir Hanna. The wikipedia map continues to show the October 7 frontline while this site shows the changes that have occured since then up to 21st November.Please update the map accordingly GERALD710 ( talk) 15:13, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Our map has been updated regularly (including Deir Hanna). I did not add all hills taken by SAA in order not to clutter the map. Changes are not so apparent because the territory seized is relatively small. Paolowalter ( talk) 23:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Some editors are changing arbitrarily yellow (YPG) controlled locations to mixed yellow-green just to demonstrate that FSA (green) has some presence in areas where it hasn't. Unless the presence of FSA group is proved the locations must remain yellow. The change of name fro YPG to SDF does not change the fact that those areas are YPG controlled. Please stop vandalizing the page. I'll start to revert them Paolowalter ( talk) 20:27, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
What is understood as rebels are islamic factions fighting the government. SDF fight IS. In fact is Hasaka government and YPG controlled areas live side by side. Actually yellow and mixed green-yellow appears to be scattered randomly. Paolowalter ( talk) 23:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
The SAA captured and secured the Marj al Sultan - Al-Nawlah road, with JAN retreating to Marj al Sultan town/village. http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/news-alert-syrian-army-seizes-strategic-road-in-rural-damascus/ Therefore: Nawlah, Hawash al-Dumal and Ruwan small villages have to be under SAA Marj al Sultan is still fully Jabhat al Nusra controlled, so is the North airfield Ariskar ( talk) 12:31, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Reliable source reported that the SAA took control of Kitf al Ghanmeh, Mallouha, Rwayset al-Malluha, Al-Rashwan, Tall Antouz, Ain Samura in Reef Latakia. here SOHR 178.94.220.190 ( talk) 20:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA retake Jabal al-Nuba and Jabal Zahiya(Al-Zahi Mountains) and advance in the area of Ateera. SOHR source 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 19:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
SAA advance and regain control of the points and hills in the surroundings of the town Al Qaryatayn to south-east of the city Homs. SOHR source source Pro government source reported that the SAA retake five villages and towns in the Homs countryside. Breaking News 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 21:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
Is anubody able to locate Khirbat Samar in Al-Sweida [AlMasdar http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-captures-the-village-of-khirbat-samar-in-al-sweida/]? Paolowalter ( talk) 08:44, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between ISIS and YPG in several axes in surroundings of Mount Abdulaziz where YPG advance and take control of the five villages, farms and communities. SOHR 37.52.24.241 ( talk) 16:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
[SOHR http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/continued-clashes-in-sahm-al-jolan-and-advances-for-regime-forces-in-dara-countryside/] report that SAA too control of Kherba Komjra village. Is anybody able to locate it? Paolowalter ( talk) 15:29, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
Village Banes south of Aleppo still under SAA. SOHR only said about uncertain information about the progress of the rebels in the vicinity of village Bans. But not said that rebels captured this village. SOHR 37.52.29.233 ( talk) 12:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
village Zawr Mughar to east of Jarablus contested YPG and ISIS. here 37.52.29.233 ( talk) 17:19, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
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Jabal Hayyan under SAA control Ald Aba ( talk) 19:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is Deir Jamal shown as YPG held? According to rebel maps it is controlled by rebel forces. This would make sense as it is located along the Azaz-Aleppo road which is under complete control of the rebels of which have clashes with the Efrin YPG after the YPG advanced on villages close to Azaz and the road which could jeoporadise the supply route. May I have the authorisation to change the town to green? Prohibited Area ( talk) 16:09, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Maybe so but which rebel,Nusra ,SDF or FSA .There seems to be a major fight going on in this region between rebel groups until there is confirmation i think its best left alone . 86.178.102.85 ( talk) 12:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
Deir Jamal is also controlled by YPG since 2014. Selocan49 ( talk) 16:11, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
I will let various international sources do the talking. Please do not change colors relying on how you wish to see the map.
Thanks.
Berkaysnklf (
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21:36, 29 November 2015 (UTC)