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Pro opposition source said that that YPG announced they take control the village of Tel Majdala in the western countryside of Hasakah, after heavy clashes with the Islamic State. ARA News video report from ARA News here Also pro Kurdish source reported that the clashes, which started yesterday in the village of Salihiye to the west of Haseke, are reportedly still continuing. ANF News Hanibal911 ( talk) 13:15, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
So the village of Tal Majdal goes yellow or red-yellow? Don't think it can go red-yellow given how the source used to make the edit like that blatantly backtracked, specifically saying "YPG attack":
https://twitter.com/QHTANIYEH1/status/596782195009814528
About Salihiya, does anyone knwo hwere it is located to put the contested dot?
186.119.58.15 ( talk) 14:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I turned again Tal Majdal red-yellow as agreed few days ago. If there are reliable news that it should go yellow, we can change. (Who turned it black?) Paolowalter ( talk) 17:51, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal turned it black because yesterday reliable mapmaker CCNews/Cetin had it marked black in his map and IS had announced the recapture of the town while YPG retracted and said that it was contested -you can see in the Tal Tamr section above-, today YPG has again claimed it's captured and posted footage with no indication that SAA participated aside from the @QHTANIYEH1 guy who has previously claimed that both FSA and Hezbollah are present at Rasulain/Serekaniye countryside.
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 18:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Kurdish source claims YPG-YPJ captured Salihiyah west of Hasaka: https://twitter.com/curdistani/status/597519410493001728
SOHR confirms advancement for YPG in the area:
http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/اشتباكات-عنيفة-وانفجارات-في-عدة-مناطق/
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 23:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 17:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
How many times are you gonna do this? This is the third time I bring this to the discussion, after User:DuckZz and others fail to provide any evidence to support their claims that Nusra is all over the place. I am not going to repeat myself a third time, please undo your revert or I shall take this up to the administration. It is not *my* fault you lose interest in the topic quickly and move on, just don't monopolize the changes when you are not willing to prove your way. NightShadeAEB ( talk) 11:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
NightShadeAEB It's no my fault because you don't want to understand the rules. You say "Ok, i want to change this town becasue JAN is either not there or has not the upper hand", but then you change dozens of villages if favor for JAN where you change it from lime to grey or grey-lime .... doesn't make any sense right ? You have a request ? No problem, post the specific village/town here and we can disquss about that, but not dozens at the same time, you can see the previous disqussing were unreadable due to different topics at the same sections. DuckZz ( talk) 11:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
NightShadeAEB I have read the discussion again. As for me, you are free to change Mar'e and Marat Numan to joint control. DuckZz ( talk) 12:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
The situation of villages to the south and east of Tal Brak has many times been discussed. Numerous pro-ISIS sources confirm that YPG hold those villages, including, Rajm Tufayhi, Qobur Fazil as far south as Tal Saman and Um Ghadir. Just google these names to find out how pro-ISIS sources complain of how badly YPG treates poor villagers in those villages! This edit is very unconstructive, siting an amateur map, itself based on various versions of this wikimap!! Please be kind and revert it. Roboskiye ( talk) 17:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Northern Aleppo Villages (Shehba, Hasin, Hassiye, Hasacik, Hoz) was captured by Jebhetu'sh Shamiiye. ISIL expelled from these villages. (Source: AA Agency, Turkey): http://www.aa.com.tr/tr/manset/508305--25-hizbullah-militani-olduruldu 212.174.38.3 ( talk) 07:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
According to this article: http://syriadirect.org/news/rebels-assault-regime-supply-lines-in-hama-ahead-of-aleppo-showdown/ rebels captured the strategic important Wadi Al-Azib checkpoint in north-eastern Hama. The checkpoint is allready on the map, please change it to green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.170.27 ( talk) 20:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Thx for the reply. The article is referring to this ARA article http://aranews.org/2015/05/%D8%BA%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%AD-%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8-%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A1-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%B7/ which is a Kurdish news site and should be neutral. Maybe someone can translate it to confirm it if its true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.170.27 ( talk) 21:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Aranews is kurdish pro-oppo source specifically so I'm afraid it can't be used to display rebel successes. 190.66.148.201 ( talk) 21:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
The Syrian Army (Regime) defense line was collapsed. The Regime forces retreated to Ariha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdyxE7P9p40&feature=youtu.be
http://inagist.com/all/595549109974601728/
http://documents.sy/image.php?id=2291&lang=en
Buthaina hill was captured by the Opposition:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.830792&lon=36.641250&z=15&m=b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoGMHgiEoA&feature=youtu.be
After liberation of Buthaina hill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLPbrCFHnyc
212.174.38.3 (
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06:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
http://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/34yin7/musaybeen_is_freed_from_assad_rule_for_now_rebel/ 212.174.38.3 ( talk) 08:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between rebels against ISIS in the town of Al-Za'faranah north of city Homs. SOHR But ISIS position very far away from this town so that probably here we have the same situation as in Dara or Quneitra wher some ex-rebels swore allegiance of ISIS and now they fight against former allies. Hanibal911 ( talk) 06:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Not related but, why did you add joint control for Musbin village if your source doesn't mention JAN at all ? DuckZz ( talk) 10:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Zmicier81. Remove, please, ISIS of Saham-al-Jawlan and al-Shajarah. This is an obvious misunderstanding. Shuhada-Yarmouk Brigade, which knocked out al-Nusra, forms the basis of FSA in the province of Daraa, and has nothing to do with ISIS. 37.215.110.46 ( talk) 12:53, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Rebels have detonated a tunnel-bomb below Fanar checkpoint south of Ariha yesterday here. Afterwards they stormed the checkpoint and reportedly took control of it (and nearby Al Jamayat checkpoint as well) here. Pro-government news site AlMasdar now acknowledges that rebels have indeed taken control of Fanar checkpoint (and parts of Misbeen as well, which already is green in the map) here. I propose to change the Fanar checkpoint to green. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 13:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Al Fanar is not just 1 building but refers to an specific area that overlooks the town of Ariha. This source and this video look very legit. Both rebel sources, but they look pretty convincing DuckZz ( talk) 14:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 But you can remove it, since it's completely destroyed, including other buildings after the first blast last year, this 2nd destroyed the remainings. DuckZz ( talk) 22:34, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Syrian troops and Hezbollah seize 5 strategic hills in Qalamoun. The Daily Star SOHR also reported that Syrian troops, NDF and Hezbollah take control the control of the hills near Assal al-Ward and Al-Juba after violent clashes with Al-Nusra. SOHR Also reliable source reported that Syrian troops and Hezbollah completed their control of Assal al-ward and hills on outskirts. Elijah J. Magnier Syrian troops and Hezbollah seized control of several hilltops in a mountainous area that straddles the Syria-Lebanon border. Syrian troops and allies had advanced around Assal al-Ward, a small regime-controlled village near the Lebanese border. Al Arabiya Al Arabiya Reuters The Worls Bulletin Demanjo Israel National News The National The Jerusalem Post Haaretz Hanibal911 ( talk) 16:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 where are these hills ? can they be added to map and should JAN presence icon be taken away or repositioned . 86.178.102.112 ( talk) 14:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
According to rebel map (gyshfathqalamon) JAN has withdrawn north to the Homs border area . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 16:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Map of qalamoun(pro gov) https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/596654683151826944/photo/1 Talat Musa should be added, that's the most important mountain, most of the rebels/nusra is there. Totholio ( talk) 08:34, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
West to Flitah? It's not showing the name. Totholio ( talk) 08:34, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
According EjmAlrai and PetoLucem map: "#JN and rebels are all in Talat Musa where the biggest battle is expected in the future in #Qalamoun". In this moment rebel in Zabadani are totaly cut off from supply 217.99.75.51 ( talk) 09:52, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Many hill and small village capture by Hezbollah and SAA here here here and here. According this video around 150 JN fighters died in the battle of Qalamoun overall. 217.99.121.133 ( talk) 13:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
This is huge. EjmAlrai Hezbollah took full control of the strategic hill of Tallat Mussa in Qalamoun battle. 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
SAA and Hezbollah take conrol more ground ResistanceER Hezbollah liberate; 'Akbat alFasakh', 'Jabal Shams alHasaan', 'Qarnat alMash' and 'Qarnat alTool' in Flita-Qalamoun ResistanceER Hezbollah advance in Flita outskirts liberating 'Qarnat Shaab alHankal', 'alJamediyeh', 'Qarnat Najas alMubaraka' almasdar Syrian Army and Hezbollah Capture Jabal Shameesah. According dailystar Hezbollah fighters and the Syrian army wrested control over the Shmeis al-Hisan area that overlooks routes used by the rebels, between the outskirts of Jarajeer and the outskirts of Flita 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:16, 20 May 2015
Why is Kufayr shown regime held? According to a pro-regime source ? Al-Masdar.
According to sohr arabic report (1 hour ago) Kufayr under SAA control http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%B7-%D8%AC%D8%B3%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%83/ Hwinsp ( talk) 13:11, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
here is proassad source about kufayr : http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-recaptures-strategic-checkpoint-in-idlib/
Despite their success at the Ariha front, the SAA’s 87th Brigade and the NDF were unable to maintain full control of Kufayr after
capturing this village 24 hours before their withdrawal on Thursday; this retreat was due to the militants of Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham controlling the surrounding hills around Kufayr.
According to a military source in the Idlib province, the SAA’s 87th Brigade and the NDF have regrouped south the village, where they are preparing for counter-assault on the militants from Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham.
please put in green ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.192.192.17 ( talk) 11:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I am raising this issue beacause many of editors are editing with arabic sources,as we know this is not arabic wikipedia so the sources need to be in english not in arabic beacause there are editors who doesn't understand arabic and doubt if it is the truth.All of these arabic sources have english version.So i propose to use only english sources for editing the map and arabic sources as a back up. Lindi29 ( talk) 14:54, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Why is the entire Qalamun marked in red ? Government sources are used DuckZz ( talk) 18:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Every pro-regime user can edit wikipedia maps. We don't have any neutral sources showing Jabal Manar under SAA control. And rebels need a rural presence icon there, i mean i don't know how much soldiers they have there but they certainly didn't lost 1000 members DuckZz ( talk) 19:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Here SOHR says that rebels are still there. You need to think of something to add on the map, or change
According to reliable pro-govt source Hassan Ridha clashes ongoing in the Sinaa neighborhood of Deir Ezzor:
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/596227607164661760
SOHR also reports about it:
So would it be ok to change the area to contested in detailed map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.32.116.216 ( talk) 11:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL7VI8H6Q4Y&feature=youtu.be IS vid documenting their gains in Deir Ezzor. Tgoll774 ( talk) 22:39, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8iWfaWs28yGRXRqTFFCTjN3ZXM/view Neutral source. Tgoll774 ( talk) 02:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
See map here put out by ISW (posted on business insider) it shows where the head choppers of JN have control/governance and where they have major activities "permissive terrain": http://www.businessinsider.com/what-happens-next-in-syria-2015-5 The permissive terrain areas should be green/grey to show JN. The "control/governance" should be marked as JN areas. ISW is a highly respected US think tank with high quality access and information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.26.77 ( talk) 17:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The point is: They have a presence in all of rebel held territories, excluding Kurdish areas. BUT we only mark villages/towns under their control when they have full control over that area. For me, we wouldn't even mark them of separate colors, because their villages and towns under full control have a strong presence of other terrorist Islamic groups such as Ahrar. IMO the Nusra color is simply unecessary — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.157.16.202 ( talk) 19:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Sukhnah and amiriya in the Homs desert capture by ISIL sources below
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 12:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
I am back,okay,but what if it is confirmed that ISIS controls Sukhna,what about the other villages surrounding it. Alhanuty ( talk) 12:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Here is the ISIL video inside Al Sukhna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2seZqBn0c&feature=youtu.be
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 19:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
Wow hanibal you are still not convinced ? Pro opp, Anti Opp , Pro ISIL anti ISil every one convinced that Sukhnah has fallen but somehow you still think its contested? here is one anti IS source
https://twitter.com/PalmyraRev1/status/598366226457305088
The Fight has moved on to Palmyra where ISIL claimed they control entire eastern part of tadmur and you still debating whether sukhnah has fallen { Jack6780 ( talk) 20:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
The status of Palmyra according to SAA is https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/598583163862974464 and http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=40426. Let us wait and see. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
According to Al Masdar [3] Palmyra is again unde rSAA control. Fighting is moving to Al Sukhna. Same statements from pro-SAA [4]. Paolowalter ( talk) 06:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Why are the the towns east of T3 IS held? I've seen no reliable sources on these changes. MesmerMe ( talk) 12:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/Syria_Rebel_Obs/status/598791328990928896/photo/1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yGujgLPAGA&feature=youtu.be (Allegedly showing airstrikes on Radio Tower Hill outside Tadmur), http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.561107&lon=38.252120&z=15&m=b Radio Station is here. In all, it looks like a near total collapse of SAA forces Tgoll774 ( talk) 12:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
according to sohr arabic Palmyra city under still under SAA control and clashes still ongoing around the city http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A3%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81-%D9%85/ Hwinsp ( talk) 13:13, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
According to this report amiriya and surrounding gas station and check points are in ISIL control
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565265-syrias-ancient-city-of-palmyra-in-danger
Now the fight is going on in Palmyra According to Hannibals Favourite Pro Shia Militia , Pro Hizbollah Elijah Magnier
https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/598844352463527936
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 14:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)}
jack6780 .Some information for you .These conflicts in Iraq and Syria are not about SUNNI or SHIA but about political control in the middle east .Many SUNNI are fighting ISIL as they regard them as evil bad SUNNI and they fight along side SHIA armies and as for Elijah Magnier I believe he is SUNNI . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 16:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Pro-IS https://twitter.com/activistmedia57/status/598968341353594883/photo/1 Gives a better look. Tgoll774 ( talk) 23:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Some more news about Palmyra from al Masdar [5]. Paolowalter ( talk) 06:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Castle overlooking Tadmur is being fought over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKKyFd5H-I&feature=youtu.be Tgoll774 ( talk) 20:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
All reports say fighting outside of city ,so why is it contested . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 19:43, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR confirms http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/05/clashes-continue-in-tadmur-city-al-hasakah-and-aleppo/. Palmyra was changed back to red Paolowalter ( talk) 21:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The more detailed map, and the savable file on the Syrian Civil War page have serious differences. The more detailed map shows three towns South of the Sukhna gas field, to the East of Palmyra/Tadmur being under the control of the Islamic State, as well as the areas South and East of the T3 Pumping Station, however, the savable file shows the areas South and East of the station under the control of the Syrian military, and shows the areas around the Sukhna Gas Field as being under the control of Jabhat al-Nusra.
This means that either one of the two maps is horribly wrong, or the Islamic State and al-Nusra are no longer adversaries, AND one of the maps is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaJesuZ ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I can get this whole thing of denying legitimacy to IS, but the change in the most recent map is absurd. It takes the anti-IS bias to such an extreme, that it outright misrepresents what's going on in the Palmyra desert. Not only were the people making the map give an absolute minimum territory to IS (way below what it should be), but most of that territory they did give, they falsely attributed to Jabhat al-Nusra. I'm not a fan of IS, but misrepresenting the situation for what it actually is really is not the way to go. So somebody really should attribute the land taken by IS in Eastern Homs to IS as well as giving them more territory in general, since the SAA has undoubtedly had to cede some of the desert to IS as well.
We should stop switching Palmyra between red (maybe with a black ring north) and contested. Im my understanding, the core of the city has always been under SAA control, but ISIS and SAA clashed in the outskirts and maybe some points in the outskirts were taken by ISIS. According to [6] and [7] states that the city is under government control. Even if these sources are partisam, Al Masdar has always reported attacks and advances from ISIS. Same source report the following maphttp://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-update-from-palmyra-front/. If we take these map seriously, it woule mean Palmyta red with black ring north, that is now the most realstica statement we can do. Paolowalter ( talk) 09:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Also a neutral source [yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/dozens-dead-fighting-ancient-syrian-city-palmyra-082617643.html] confirm this. Paolowalter ( talk) 09:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
http://syrian-mirror.net/en/cat/syria-mirror/isis-tighten-control-over-the-northern-district-of-palmyra-amid-dire-living-conditions/ Tgoll774 ( talk) 03:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I have a question about the sliver of green/rebel land at the top left hand corner of the 'Damascus map', which includes the town of Wadi Barada. According to the recent detailed study put out by Christopher Kozak of the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) this area has a ceasefire agreement with the government. If this is accurate then that area should be changed to purple. See the map on page 24 of the ISW report: http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/An%20Army%20in%20All%20Corners%20by%20Chris%20Kozak%201.pdf Does anyone have further information about this area?
That map also indicates that the left bottom green area south of Khan al Shih is fully Government held, with exception of the town itself. MesmerMe ( talk) 21:20, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
The Damascus map is outdated because SOHR, Al Masdar etc have already reported about rebel advances near the 39.brigade, Haws Farah, north of Madaya etc, but that's old and if you edit the map now it will look like rebels are besieged near these bases ... DuckZz ( talk) 11:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Then fix the map. The whole point of this map is to reflect the actual changes taking place on the ground. Also you do not address the urgent need to change the top left corner that includes Wadi Barada. This area is in cease fire but it is painted green. It has been painted green for far too long. Rebel area in south-west corner also should seriously shrunken , as shown on that map. Is this going to be changed? ISW study (close with US power establishment,pentagon,etc) shows this to be true. Why is not being fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.159.206 ( talk) 20:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/601104187120816128
http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A3%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%8A%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%A7/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.188.171 ( talk) 19:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
And here is a pro-Regime source saying that IS at the very least has taken about 3/4s of the city. (3 hours ago) https://www.facebook.com/IslamicWorldNews.En/posts/827457690662030
And yet another source. https://twitter.com/Flea1337/status/601082986851885056
IS supporters are saying this place fell to IS http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.228587&lon=38.023896&z=16&m=b https://twitter.com/AdamThActivist/status/601422127498174464 Tgoll774 ( talk) 16:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
They used the map without source, http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/complete-battle-map-of-syria//, Omega933 ( talk) 07:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Opposition conquered Mastumah (northest of Ariha), so it must be green:
http://suriyedenhaber.blogspot.com.tr/
Opposition operations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=i2SPh-mBHBA&app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0LLkCIGjbE&feature=youtu.be
212.174.38.3 (
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Reliable source (in the comment) said that SAA still controls the factory area, which is at least 50% of Mastumah town, and the Baath Camp in the south. Contested until further. Hanibal911 Also rebels said yesterday that they first captured Muqbilah before heading to Mastumah. This report from today is pretty obvious to me DuckZz ( talk) 09:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
please put al- Moqbila (near mastuma) en green, source: The Islamic faction take control over al- Moqbili town and advance towards al- Mastomi town Idlib.
http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/05/the-islamic-faction-take-control-over-al-moqbili-town-and-advance-towards-al-mostomi-town-idlib/
Hanibal911 For the Kurdish edit. I used a reliable Reporter source but posted a rebel source because it has more details. But both sources mentioned the same villages, so it can be used. Also this map can also be used DuckZz ( talk) 14:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Rebels today took Baath Vanguard Camp just south of Mastumah; it is already green in the map. Supposedly they also took nearby Nahlaya as well as Kafr Najd ( pro-opposition map). However, there is conflicting information about Nahlaya and Kafr Najd, so we need to wait for further information / confirmation by neutral or pro-government sources. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 18:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 You probably know what I'm going to ask you know, in related to Al Mastumah control ... lol. Yes i know what SOHR said but i have no idea why did they say Al Nusra. If they had part of this, then ok, but their members didn't even participate in taking Mastumah & area. There was no statement on twitter/facebook like they usually do when capturing a town or capturing with other forces. The main force was Jaish Fatah (Al Nusra is only part of them, we already know that 6 other groups are in it too). Ok now, for some sources. Reporter Hadi Abdalah says that Al Mastumah was captured by Jund Aqsa & Jaish Sunna (part of Jaish Fateh). Other reporter Abdul Oman says the same on 0:53.
We both know that SOHR makes small mistakes in their reports, sometimes switching between names and puts Al Nusra instead of ISIS etc... what do you think ? DuckZz ( talk) 00:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Just for information: The rebels claim to have taken Jawma Checkpoint directly northeast of Ariha (map) - (tweet) - (video). We clearly have to wait for further information from neutral or pro-government sources, but the video seems to be genuine. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 16:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/AdamThActivist/status/601417059529039873 Claims Assad is being fought by IS in this outskirt of Aleppo. Pro-FSA sources are saying the same thing such as Malcomite https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/601429620148305921 Leave it to the usual to see what the Arabic sources say. Tgoll774 ( talk) 17:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
a pro-government source is saying something about it https://twitter.com/DerekBisaccio/status/601433206626320384. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Neutral source also reporting IS took two villages east of Sheikh Najjar (not specified, but must be Muqbalah/Suran/Shamir) and is on the outskirts [8]. Nhauer ( talk) 21:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
There have been many reports on the Ariha-front lines in Idlib province. The Jaysh al-Fatah army has taken over Mastumah and nearby towns last week. I have found this article which details the fall of the Jisr ash-Shugur Hospital. It also mentions clashes in the village of Kafr Najd and around checkpoints west of Ariha. So that would mean: Kafr Najd to contested, and a green semi-ring around Ma'ataram west of Ariha. Everybody agreed? Report: https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565321-regimes-idlib-front-collapsing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 14:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported that the violent clashes are still continuing between ISIS and YPG in the rural area between the town of Tell Tamer and countryside of city Ras al-Ain where YPG take control of the two villages. SOHR Hanibal911 ( talk) 18:12, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Several villages have been taken by YPG last week, our map looks very outdated, especially around Manajir. These are the names of the villages taken today: https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600376344833294336 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600377317953773568 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600377889767432192 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600378496003788800 Of course this is a kurdish source, but I think that the last numerous SOHR reports are corroborating this kurdish reports, even if SOHR doesn't tell nothing about the names of the villages. -- 8fra0 ( talk) 19:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Hasakah-western-front-19-May-2015.jpg YPG made modest advances and has a pocket in its rear. Tgoll774 ( talk) 22:53, 19 May 2015 (UTC) the map is accurate,i recommend the hasakah section of the wikipedia map to be updated to agathocle's map. Alhanuty ( talk) 01:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Some more villages have been taken by YPG yesterday and today: http://anfenglish.com/kurdistan/ypg-15-villages-liberated 8fra0 ( talk) 14:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Capture of al-Jazl gives them a direct road connection via Palmyra. Thus we can remove that superfluous dot collection Tgoll774 ( talk) 18:03, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between NDF against ISIS in white area in the south-western countryside of Hasaka where the Syrian troops during the past two days of advances against ISIS and take control of the some areas that earlier were controlled by the "Islamic state". SOHR And pro government source reported that Syrian troops advanced in the direction city of Shaddadeh. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 13:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Lindi29 are you ISIL supporter ? you always try to prove ISIL advances and try to stop ISIL defeats . 86.135.157.236 ( talk) 18:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Top left hand corner of the 'Damascus map', which includes the town of Wadi Barada is in peace treaty and the left bottom green area south of Khan al Shih is fully Government held. This, according to anti-government researcher Christopher Kozak & the pentagon connected Institute for the Study of War (ISW). See Page 24 of the ISW report: http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/An%20Army%20in%20All%20Corners%20by%20Chris%20Kozak%201.pdf Is the map going to be fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.129.170 ( talk) 22:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I found out that the Islamic State's positions in Dar Kharab and Khirbat al Burj are fully surrounded by Kurdish and Free Syrian Army. Furthermore pro-Kurdish forces showed Sarrin is under the Islamic State control, but Kurds are near to there. # -- 햄방이 ( talk) 16:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
https://7496bff410df41fc380ad565a50f607d4b1e8372.googledrive.com/host/0BzN49CdHSAwmcGU4eEI5dVBGZXM/KobaniCantonKU-2015-05-25.png Shows a IS counter attack has linked Khirbat al-Furj with Sarrin and taken a stretch of M4. http://sfha.li/nasit/ This clearly shows IS holding an open air market on the Outskirts of Sarrin where YPG says they are. Obviously YPG isn't there. Sarrin must go to black. Tgoll774 ( talk) 13:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Pro opposition source Syrian Rebellion Observatory reported that after weeks of tension, FSA, Ahrar ash-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam, Al Nusra begun offensive against Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk in Daraa. here Also this source reported that the (ex-rebels and for now pro ISIS) Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk present in nearly 10 villages/strategic hills in west part of Daraa province. And that they have hundreds of fighters and dozens tanks. here Also pro thid source reported that after the fourteen hours the battles against Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk the Ahrar ash-Sham entered in the two town Bakker and Saham al-Jawlan. here and pro government source also reported that the rebels have retaking towns Saham AL-Jawlan and Bakkar after clashes with Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade (pro ISIS) here Hanibal911 ( talk) 19:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR wrote something about this. DuckZz ( talk) 21:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Syrian troops and Hezbollah taken control of most of Qalamoun, rebels fleeing north toward the outskirts of Arsal(Lebanon) The Dailt Star Hanibal911 ( talk) 15:56, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Another advace almasdar Hezbollah Captures the Western Hills of Tal Thaljah in the Qalamoun Mountains and almasdar Hezbollah Captures Al-Qaba’ and Al-Niqar on the border of Nahleh dailystar confirm this. 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:52, 25 May 2015
Hanibal911 There should be a rural presence icon, clashes are still reported DuckZz ( talk) 14:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Why all locations around Palmyra has been turned black? There are sources reporting SAA presence not far from Palmyra.. Paolowalter ( talk) 14:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR source from today. DuckZz ( talk) 14:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
This information apperas to be unfounded. Never heard by any other source. Including pro-rebel. They cannot be taken seriously. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Interesing news here and here This is pro gov source but mayby SAA not so far from Palmyra as on the map 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 22:30, 25 May 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:25AA:1:4004:0:0:0:6E ( talk)
From http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/east-homs-erupts-with-violence-isis-attacking-multiple-areas/ it appears that SAA in still close to Palmyra and in other location in this area. SOHR info looks totally unreliable. Paolowalter ( talk) 07:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
In addition to Damascus map needing update, the Aleppo map also needs update. According to both pro-opp & now pro-gov sources the IS head choppers have overcome some of the red and green areas in eastern Aleppo- see this map: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-of-the-sheikh-najjar-industrial-district-of-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.26.212 ( talk) 17:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 The village of Sheikh Muhammed is really small, as you can see here. Instead of that, we can remove this village and add Rasm Kabahar on the same spot because rebels should control this village because it's on the same road as Rashidiyah, probably from where of they started the attacks, because it's not possible to control Rashidiyah without Rasm Kabahar. DuckZz ( talk) 12:28, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 You probably don't understand the difference between being pro-opposition and being reliable. For example, Eliah Magnier is pro-government orianted, but he's reliable, so we use him as a source. This dude BosnoSin writes mostly about rebel stuff, but there's a difference because he is reliable, while not being pro-rebel (being pro-rebel means that he writes about regime, Bashar and other stuff not realated to the situation on the ground). There's not a single post by him that was actually wrong, so he has a 100% accuracy, which means he's realiable. DuckZz ( talk) 20:15, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
DuckZ you failed once again. Bosnosin calls al nusra beheaders "rebels" and reported Rashidiya captured without any evidence meanwhile it was not even half captured. 100% accuracy LOL Totholio ( talk) 21:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Why are the Jazal Oilfields IS held, when pro gov sources tell that it was never lost. I know we're not supposed to use information from the same side of the bias of the source, but this change shouldn't have happened i the first place. MesmerMe ( talk) 08:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Additional info from Al Masdar http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/the-syrian-army-finally-ousts-isis-from-the-al-shaar-mountains/. In my understanding Jazal oil filed and village should go red and Sha'er gas field should have the black hal ring removed. Furthermore it states again that SAA is not far from Palmyra, on the west side I guess. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I just want to say that there is a huge phosphate mine in the direct vincinity of Khunayfis. It is even bigger than the one in As Sawwanah Al-Sharqiyah to the east. You can easily see it on Google Maps. SOHR said it has been captured by ISIL, so could someone please add the icon there? Kolya60 ( talk) 13:11, 26 May 2015 (GMT)
This looks wrong. I heard something about al-Nusra operating there. But if we had IS bordering Israel, I imagine we'd be hearing a little about it. Banak ( talk) 20:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC) [[User:Banak|Banak] According to the data of the Israeli source pro-ISIS ex-rebel groups control some towns near Golan Heights.(Jamlah, ash-Shajarah, Bakkar, and Ain Dhakar) Also source said that according to the Free Syrian Army spokesman, the number of fighters from Al Nusra in the provinces of Quneitra and Daraa, adjacent to the Israeli and Jordanian borders, has diminished in recent weeks from 3,000 to no more than 700 fighters and that the 80-90% of al-Nusra’s fighters are locals who share the basic goals of the other rebel units, differentiating the group from the Islamic State which is more active in the north and is mostly composed of foreign fighters. The Times of Israel and earlier pro opposition source Syrian Rebellion Observatory said that the Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk(pro ISIS) is based in nearly 10 villages and strategic hills in west Rif Daraa. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 11:08, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/moscow_ghost/status/603221347167272960
From this map's description, the Rebels are trying to go for Khanasir, and IS is going for Ithriya. Peto Lucem retweeted it, so this map seems to be at least somewhat accepted news in the pro-Government media camp. So what I'm proposing is for that the "Army presence East of Khanisir (or whatever" marker should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.188.171 ( talk) 04:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGAXp4WW0AAaw7Z.png Pro-IS and from ANHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6eo3sYm9QI&feature=youtu.be Its clear IS still holds it otherwise It wouldn't be getting lit up like the fourth of July. Tgoll774 ( talk) 11:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Another youtube video that could have been filmed anytime , anywhere . 86.135.155.156 ( talk) 13:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
the fall of the town was honestly shocking,now there is no barrier for the kurdish forces to reach Slouk. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported that the now clashes between Syrian troops and ISIS in the vicinity of Jazal oil field and that the Syrian troops advance in this area. SOHR Also yesterday the map from the antigovernment source also showed that the positions of Syrian troops still located near the Jazal oil field. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 10:17, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
SAA Forces have retreated from Ariha per Pro Gov Source. MesmerMe ( talk) 18:17, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Yesterday I reverted some YPG advantages west of Serekaniye, because the pro-Kurdish mapper @CizireCanton had it as ISIS' territory. [9] Now he shows it as YPG controlled [10], and thats why I want to revert by edit. But is it okay to do that, when its a pro-Kurdish source?
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Pro opposition source said that that YPG announced they take control the village of Tel Majdala in the western countryside of Hasakah, after heavy clashes with the Islamic State. ARA News video report from ARA News here Also pro Kurdish source reported that the clashes, which started yesterday in the village of Salihiye to the west of Haseke, are reportedly still continuing. ANF News Hanibal911 ( talk) 13:15, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
So the village of Tal Majdal goes yellow or red-yellow? Don't think it can go red-yellow given how the source used to make the edit like that blatantly backtracked, specifically saying "YPG attack":
https://twitter.com/QHTANIYEH1/status/596782195009814528
About Salihiya, does anyone knwo hwere it is located to put the contested dot?
186.119.58.15 ( talk) 14:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
I turned again Tal Majdal red-yellow as agreed few days ago. If there are reliable news that it should go yellow, we can change. (Who turned it black?) Paolowalter ( talk) 17:51, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal turned it black because yesterday reliable mapmaker CCNews/Cetin had it marked black in his map and IS had announced the recapture of the town while YPG retracted and said that it was contested -you can see in the Tal Tamr section above-, today YPG has again claimed it's captured and posted footage with no indication that SAA participated aside from the @QHTANIYEH1 guy who has previously claimed that both FSA and Hezbollah are present at Rasulain/Serekaniye countryside.
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 18:28, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Kurdish source claims YPG-YPJ captured Salihiyah west of Hasaka: https://twitter.com/curdistani/status/597519410493001728
SOHR confirms advancement for YPG in the area:
http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/اشتباكات-عنيفة-وانفجارات-في-عدة-مناطق/
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 23:43, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
190.67.234.251 ( talk) 17:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
How many times are you gonna do this? This is the third time I bring this to the discussion, after User:DuckZz and others fail to provide any evidence to support their claims that Nusra is all over the place. I am not going to repeat myself a third time, please undo your revert or I shall take this up to the administration. It is not *my* fault you lose interest in the topic quickly and move on, just don't monopolize the changes when you are not willing to prove your way. NightShadeAEB ( talk) 11:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
NightShadeAEB It's no my fault because you don't want to understand the rules. You say "Ok, i want to change this town becasue JAN is either not there or has not the upper hand", but then you change dozens of villages if favor for JAN where you change it from lime to grey or grey-lime .... doesn't make any sense right ? You have a request ? No problem, post the specific village/town here and we can disquss about that, but not dozens at the same time, you can see the previous disqussing were unreadable due to different topics at the same sections. DuckZz ( talk) 11:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
NightShadeAEB I have read the discussion again. As for me, you are free to change Mar'e and Marat Numan to joint control. DuckZz ( talk) 12:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
The situation of villages to the south and east of Tal Brak has many times been discussed. Numerous pro-ISIS sources confirm that YPG hold those villages, including, Rajm Tufayhi, Qobur Fazil as far south as Tal Saman and Um Ghadir. Just google these names to find out how pro-ISIS sources complain of how badly YPG treates poor villagers in those villages! This edit is very unconstructive, siting an amateur map, itself based on various versions of this wikimap!! Please be kind and revert it. Roboskiye ( talk) 17:41, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Northern Aleppo Villages (Shehba, Hasin, Hassiye, Hasacik, Hoz) was captured by Jebhetu'sh Shamiiye. ISIL expelled from these villages. (Source: AA Agency, Turkey): http://www.aa.com.tr/tr/manset/508305--25-hizbullah-militani-olduruldu 212.174.38.3 ( talk) 07:11, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
According to this article: http://syriadirect.org/news/rebels-assault-regime-supply-lines-in-hama-ahead-of-aleppo-showdown/ rebels captured the strategic important Wadi Al-Azib checkpoint in north-eastern Hama. The checkpoint is allready on the map, please change it to green. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.170.27 ( talk) 20:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Thx for the reply. The article is referring to this ARA article http://aranews.org/2015/05/%D8%BA%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%A9-%D8%B9%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%AD-%D8%AD%D9%84%D8%A8-%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%86-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A1-%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D8%B7/ which is a Kurdish news site and should be neutral. Maybe someone can translate it to confirm it if its true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.163.170.27 ( talk) 21:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Aranews is kurdish pro-oppo source specifically so I'm afraid it can't be used to display rebel successes. 190.66.148.201 ( talk) 21:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
The Syrian Army (Regime) defense line was collapsed. The Regime forces retreated to Ariha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdyxE7P9p40&feature=youtu.be
http://inagist.com/all/595549109974601728/
http://documents.sy/image.php?id=2291&lang=en
Buthaina hill was captured by the Opposition:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=tr&lat=35.830792&lon=36.641250&z=15&m=b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SoGMHgiEoA&feature=youtu.be
After liberation of Buthaina hill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLPbrCFHnyc
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http://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/34yin7/musaybeen_is_freed_from_assad_rule_for_now_rebel/ 212.174.38.3 ( talk) 08:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between rebels against ISIS in the town of Al-Za'faranah north of city Homs. SOHR But ISIS position very far away from this town so that probably here we have the same situation as in Dara or Quneitra wher some ex-rebels swore allegiance of ISIS and now they fight against former allies. Hanibal911 ( talk) 06:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Not related but, why did you add joint control for Musbin village if your source doesn't mention JAN at all ? DuckZz ( talk) 10:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Zmicier81. Remove, please, ISIS of Saham-al-Jawlan and al-Shajarah. This is an obvious misunderstanding. Shuhada-Yarmouk Brigade, which knocked out al-Nusra, forms the basis of FSA in the province of Daraa, and has nothing to do with ISIS. 37.215.110.46 ( talk) 12:53, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Rebels have detonated a tunnel-bomb below Fanar checkpoint south of Ariha yesterday here. Afterwards they stormed the checkpoint and reportedly took control of it (and nearby Al Jamayat checkpoint as well) here. Pro-government news site AlMasdar now acknowledges that rebels have indeed taken control of Fanar checkpoint (and parts of Misbeen as well, which already is green in the map) here. I propose to change the Fanar checkpoint to green. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 13:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Al Fanar is not just 1 building but refers to an specific area that overlooks the town of Ariha. This source and this video look very legit. Both rebel sources, but they look pretty convincing DuckZz ( talk) 14:40, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 But you can remove it, since it's completely destroyed, including other buildings after the first blast last year, this 2nd destroyed the remainings. DuckZz ( talk) 22:34, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Syrian troops and Hezbollah seize 5 strategic hills in Qalamoun. The Daily Star SOHR also reported that Syrian troops, NDF and Hezbollah take control the control of the hills near Assal al-Ward and Al-Juba after violent clashes with Al-Nusra. SOHR Also reliable source reported that Syrian troops and Hezbollah completed their control of Assal al-ward and hills on outskirts. Elijah J. Magnier Syrian troops and Hezbollah seized control of several hilltops in a mountainous area that straddles the Syria-Lebanon border. Syrian troops and allies had advanced around Assal al-Ward, a small regime-controlled village near the Lebanese border. Al Arabiya Al Arabiya Reuters The Worls Bulletin Demanjo Israel National News The National The Jerusalem Post Haaretz Hanibal911 ( talk) 16:28, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 where are these hills ? can they be added to map and should JAN presence icon be taken away or repositioned . 86.178.102.112 ( talk) 14:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
According to rebel map (gyshfathqalamon) JAN has withdrawn north to the Homs border area . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 16:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Map of qalamoun(pro gov) https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/596654683151826944/photo/1 Talat Musa should be added, that's the most important mountain, most of the rebels/nusra is there. Totholio ( talk) 08:34, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
West to Flitah? It's not showing the name. Totholio ( talk) 08:34, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
According EjmAlrai and PetoLucem map: "#JN and rebels are all in Talat Musa where the biggest battle is expected in the future in #Qalamoun". In this moment rebel in Zabadani are totaly cut off from supply 217.99.75.51 ( talk) 09:52, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Many hill and small village capture by Hezbollah and SAA here here here and here. According this video around 150 JN fighters died in the battle of Qalamoun overall. 217.99.121.133 ( talk) 13:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
This is huge. EjmAlrai Hezbollah took full control of the strategic hill of Tallat Mussa in Qalamoun battle. 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:24, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
SAA and Hezbollah take conrol more ground ResistanceER Hezbollah liberate; 'Akbat alFasakh', 'Jabal Shams alHasaan', 'Qarnat alMash' and 'Qarnat alTool' in Flita-Qalamoun ResistanceER Hezbollah advance in Flita outskirts liberating 'Qarnat Shaab alHankal', 'alJamediyeh', 'Qarnat Najas alMubaraka' almasdar Syrian Army and Hezbollah Capture Jabal Shameesah. According dailystar Hezbollah fighters and the Syrian army wrested control over the Shmeis al-Hisan area that overlooks routes used by the rebels, between the outskirts of Jarajeer and the outskirts of Flita 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:16, 20 May 2015
Why is Kufayr shown regime held? According to a pro-regime source ? Al-Masdar.
According to sohr arabic report (1 hour ago) Kufayr under SAA control http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%B7-%D8%AC%D8%B3%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%BA%D9%88%D8%B1-%D9%8A%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%83/ Hwinsp ( talk) 13:11, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
here is proassad source about kufayr : http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-recaptures-strategic-checkpoint-in-idlib/
Despite their success at the Ariha front, the SAA’s 87th Brigade and the NDF were unable to maintain full control of Kufayr after
capturing this village 24 hours before their withdrawal on Thursday; this retreat was due to the militants of Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham controlling the surrounding hills around Kufayr.
According to a military source in the Idlib province, the SAA’s 87th Brigade and the NDF have regrouped south the village, where they are preparing for counter-assault on the militants from Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham.
please put in green ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.192.192.17 ( talk) 11:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I am raising this issue beacause many of editors are editing with arabic sources,as we know this is not arabic wikipedia so the sources need to be in english not in arabic beacause there are editors who doesn't understand arabic and doubt if it is the truth.All of these arabic sources have english version.So i propose to use only english sources for editing the map and arabic sources as a back up. Lindi29 ( talk) 14:54, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Why is the entire Qalamun marked in red ? Government sources are used DuckZz ( talk) 18:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Every pro-regime user can edit wikipedia maps. We don't have any neutral sources showing Jabal Manar under SAA control. And rebels need a rural presence icon there, i mean i don't know how much soldiers they have there but they certainly didn't lost 1000 members DuckZz ( talk) 19:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 Here SOHR says that rebels are still there. You need to think of something to add on the map, or change
According to reliable pro-govt source Hassan Ridha clashes ongoing in the Sinaa neighborhood of Deir Ezzor:
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/596227607164661760
SOHR also reports about it:
So would it be ok to change the area to contested in detailed map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.32.116.216 ( talk) 11:15, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL7VI8H6Q4Y&feature=youtu.be IS vid documenting their gains in Deir Ezzor. Tgoll774 ( talk) 22:39, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8iWfaWs28yGRXRqTFFCTjN3ZXM/view Neutral source. Tgoll774 ( talk) 02:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
See map here put out by ISW (posted on business insider) it shows where the head choppers of JN have control/governance and where they have major activities "permissive terrain": http://www.businessinsider.com/what-happens-next-in-syria-2015-5 The permissive terrain areas should be green/grey to show JN. The "control/governance" should be marked as JN areas. ISW is a highly respected US think tank with high quality access and information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.26.77 ( talk) 17:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The point is: They have a presence in all of rebel held territories, excluding Kurdish areas. BUT we only mark villages/towns under their control when they have full control over that area. For me, we wouldn't even mark them of separate colors, because their villages and towns under full control have a strong presence of other terrorist Islamic groups such as Ahrar. IMO the Nusra color is simply unecessary — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.157.16.202 ( talk) 19:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Sukhnah and amiriya in the Homs desert capture by ISIL sources below
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 12:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
I am back,okay,but what if it is confirmed that ISIS controls Sukhna,what about the other villages surrounding it. Alhanuty ( talk) 12:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Here is the ISIL video inside Al Sukhna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc2seZqBn0c&feature=youtu.be
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 19:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
Wow hanibal you are still not convinced ? Pro opp, Anti Opp , Pro ISIL anti ISil every one convinced that Sukhnah has fallen but somehow you still think its contested? here is one anti IS source
https://twitter.com/PalmyraRev1/status/598366226457305088
The Fight has moved on to Palmyra where ISIL claimed they control entire eastern part of tadmur and you still debating whether sukhnah has fallen { Jack6780 ( talk) 20:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}
The status of Palmyra according to SAA is https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/598583163862974464 and http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=40426. Let us wait and see. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
According to Al Masdar [3] Palmyra is again unde rSAA control. Fighting is moving to Al Sukhna. Same statements from pro-SAA [4]. Paolowalter ( talk) 06:36, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Why are the the towns east of T3 IS held? I've seen no reliable sources on these changes. MesmerMe ( talk) 12:09, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/Syria_Rebel_Obs/status/598791328990928896/photo/1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yGujgLPAGA&feature=youtu.be (Allegedly showing airstrikes on Radio Tower Hill outside Tadmur), http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.561107&lon=38.252120&z=15&m=b Radio Station is here. In all, it looks like a near total collapse of SAA forces Tgoll774 ( talk) 12:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
according to sohr arabic Palmyra city under still under SAA control and clashes still ongoing around the city http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B4%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%86%D9%8A%D9%81%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A3%D8%B7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81-%D9%85/ Hwinsp ( talk) 13:13, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
According to this report amiriya and surrounding gas station and check points are in ISIL control
https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565265-syrias-ancient-city-of-palmyra-in-danger
Now the fight is going on in Palmyra According to Hannibals Favourite Pro Shia Militia , Pro Hizbollah Elijah Magnier
https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/598844352463527936
{ Jack6780 ( talk) 14:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)}
jack6780 .Some information for you .These conflicts in Iraq and Syria are not about SUNNI or SHIA but about political control in the middle east .Many SUNNI are fighting ISIL as they regard them as evil bad SUNNI and they fight along side SHIA armies and as for Elijah Magnier I believe he is SUNNI . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 16:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Pro-IS https://twitter.com/activistmedia57/status/598968341353594883/photo/1 Gives a better look. Tgoll774 ( talk) 23:08, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Some more news about Palmyra from al Masdar [5]. Paolowalter ( talk) 06:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Castle overlooking Tadmur is being fought over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKKyFd5H-I&feature=youtu.be Tgoll774 ( talk) 20:33, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
All reports say fighting outside of city ,so why is it contested . 86.178.102.96 ( talk) 19:43, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR confirms http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/05/clashes-continue-in-tadmur-city-al-hasakah-and-aleppo/. Palmyra was changed back to red Paolowalter ( talk) 21:54, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
The more detailed map, and the savable file on the Syrian Civil War page have serious differences. The more detailed map shows three towns South of the Sukhna gas field, to the East of Palmyra/Tadmur being under the control of the Islamic State, as well as the areas South and East of the T3 Pumping Station, however, the savable file shows the areas South and East of the station under the control of the Syrian military, and shows the areas around the Sukhna Gas Field as being under the control of Jabhat al-Nusra.
This means that either one of the two maps is horribly wrong, or the Islamic State and al-Nusra are no longer adversaries, AND one of the maps is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaJesuZ ( talk • contribs) 03:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I can get this whole thing of denying legitimacy to IS, but the change in the most recent map is absurd. It takes the anti-IS bias to such an extreme, that it outright misrepresents what's going on in the Palmyra desert. Not only were the people making the map give an absolute minimum territory to IS (way below what it should be), but most of that territory they did give, they falsely attributed to Jabhat al-Nusra. I'm not a fan of IS, but misrepresenting the situation for what it actually is really is not the way to go. So somebody really should attribute the land taken by IS in Eastern Homs to IS as well as giving them more territory in general, since the SAA has undoubtedly had to cede some of the desert to IS as well.
We should stop switching Palmyra between red (maybe with a black ring north) and contested. Im my understanding, the core of the city has always been under SAA control, but ISIS and SAA clashed in the outskirts and maybe some points in the outskirts were taken by ISIS. According to [6] and [7] states that the city is under government control. Even if these sources are partisam, Al Masdar has always reported attacks and advances from ISIS. Same source report the following maphttp://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-update-from-palmyra-front/. If we take these map seriously, it woule mean Palmyta red with black ring north, that is now the most realstica statement we can do. Paolowalter ( talk) 09:38, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Also a neutral source [yahoo http://news.yahoo.com/dozens-dead-fighting-ancient-syrian-city-palmyra-082617643.html] confirm this. Paolowalter ( talk) 09:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
http://syrian-mirror.net/en/cat/syria-mirror/isis-tighten-control-over-the-northern-district-of-palmyra-amid-dire-living-conditions/ Tgoll774 ( talk) 03:56, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I have a question about the sliver of green/rebel land at the top left hand corner of the 'Damascus map', which includes the town of Wadi Barada. According to the recent detailed study put out by Christopher Kozak of the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) this area has a ceasefire agreement with the government. If this is accurate then that area should be changed to purple. See the map on page 24 of the ISW report: http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/An%20Army%20in%20All%20Corners%20by%20Chris%20Kozak%201.pdf Does anyone have further information about this area?
That map also indicates that the left bottom green area south of Khan al Shih is fully Government held, with exception of the town itself. MesmerMe ( talk) 21:20, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
The Damascus map is outdated because SOHR, Al Masdar etc have already reported about rebel advances near the 39.brigade, Haws Farah, north of Madaya etc, but that's old and if you edit the map now it will look like rebels are besieged near these bases ... DuckZz ( talk) 11:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Then fix the map. The whole point of this map is to reflect the actual changes taking place on the ground. Also you do not address the urgent need to change the top left corner that includes Wadi Barada. This area is in cease fire but it is painted green. It has been painted green for far too long. Rebel area in south-west corner also should seriously shrunken , as shown on that map. Is this going to be changed? ISW study (close with US power establishment,pentagon,etc) shows this to be true. Why is not being fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.159.206 ( talk) 20:59, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/601104187120816128
http://www.syriahr.com/2015/05/%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%82%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A3%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%8A%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9-%D8%A7/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.188.171 ( talk) 19:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
And here is a pro-Regime source saying that IS at the very least has taken about 3/4s of the city. (3 hours ago) https://www.facebook.com/IslamicWorldNews.En/posts/827457690662030
And yet another source. https://twitter.com/Flea1337/status/601082986851885056
IS supporters are saying this place fell to IS http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.228587&lon=38.023896&z=16&m=b https://twitter.com/AdamThActivist/status/601422127498174464 Tgoll774 ( talk) 16:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
They used the map without source, http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/complete-battle-map-of-syria//, Omega933 ( talk) 07:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Opposition conquered Mastumah (northest of Ariha), so it must be green:
http://suriyedenhaber.blogspot.com.tr/
Opposition operations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=i2SPh-mBHBA&app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0LLkCIGjbE&feature=youtu.be
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07:04, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Reliable source (in the comment) said that SAA still controls the factory area, which is at least 50% of Mastumah town, and the Baath Camp in the south. Contested until further. Hanibal911 Also rebels said yesterday that they first captured Muqbilah before heading to Mastumah. This report from today is pretty obvious to me DuckZz ( talk) 09:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
please put al- Moqbila (near mastuma) en green, source: The Islamic faction take control over al- Moqbili town and advance towards al- Mastomi town Idlib.
http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/05/the-islamic-faction-take-control-over-al-moqbili-town-and-advance-towards-al-mostomi-town-idlib/
Hanibal911 For the Kurdish edit. I used a reliable Reporter source but posted a rebel source because it has more details. But both sources mentioned the same villages, so it can be used. Also this map can also be used DuckZz ( talk) 14:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Rebels today took Baath Vanguard Camp just south of Mastumah; it is already green in the map. Supposedly they also took nearby Nahlaya as well as Kafr Najd ( pro-opposition map). However, there is conflicting information about Nahlaya and Kafr Najd, so we need to wait for further information / confirmation by neutral or pro-government sources. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 18:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 You probably know what I'm going to ask you know, in related to Al Mastumah control ... lol. Yes i know what SOHR said but i have no idea why did they say Al Nusra. If they had part of this, then ok, but their members didn't even participate in taking Mastumah & area. There was no statement on twitter/facebook like they usually do when capturing a town or capturing with other forces. The main force was Jaish Fatah (Al Nusra is only part of them, we already know that 6 other groups are in it too). Ok now, for some sources. Reporter Hadi Abdalah says that Al Mastumah was captured by Jund Aqsa & Jaish Sunna (part of Jaish Fateh). Other reporter Abdul Oman says the same on 0:53.
We both know that SOHR makes small mistakes in their reports, sometimes switching between names and puts Al Nusra instead of ISIS etc... what do you think ? DuckZz ( talk) 00:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Just for information: The rebels claim to have taken Jawma Checkpoint directly northeast of Ariha (map) - (tweet) - (video). We clearly have to wait for further information from neutral or pro-government sources, but the video seems to be genuine. 131.188.48.167 ( talk) 16:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/AdamThActivist/status/601417059529039873 Claims Assad is being fought by IS in this outskirt of Aleppo. Pro-FSA sources are saying the same thing such as Malcomite https://twitter.com/Malcolmite/status/601429620148305921 Leave it to the usual to see what the Arabic sources say. Tgoll774 ( talk) 17:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
a pro-government source is saying something about it https://twitter.com/DerekBisaccio/status/601433206626320384. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Neutral source also reporting IS took two villages east of Sheikh Najjar (not specified, but must be Muqbalah/Suran/Shamir) and is on the outskirts [8]. Nhauer ( talk) 21:05, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
There have been many reports on the Ariha-front lines in Idlib province. The Jaysh al-Fatah army has taken over Mastumah and nearby towns last week. I have found this article which details the fall of the Jisr ash-Shugur Hospital. It also mentions clashes in the village of Kafr Najd and around checkpoints west of Ariha. So that would mean: Kafr Najd to contested, and a green semi-ring around Ma'ataram west of Ariha. Everybody agreed? Report: https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/565321-regimes-idlib-front-collapsing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.24.43.183 ( talk) 14:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported that the violent clashes are still continuing between ISIS and YPG in the rural area between the town of Tell Tamer and countryside of city Ras al-Ain where YPG take control of the two villages. SOHR Hanibal911 ( talk) 18:12, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Several villages have been taken by YPG last week, our map looks very outdated, especially around Manajir. These are the names of the villages taken today: https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600376344833294336 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600377317953773568 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600377889767432192 https://twitter.com/issa_kobani/status/600378496003788800 Of course this is a kurdish source, but I think that the last numerous SOHR reports are corroborating this kurdish reports, even if SOHR doesn't tell nothing about the names of the villages. -- 8fra0 ( talk) 19:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Hasakah-western-front-19-May-2015.jpg YPG made modest advances and has a pocket in its rear. Tgoll774 ( talk) 22:53, 19 May 2015 (UTC) the map is accurate,i recommend the hasakah section of the wikipedia map to be updated to agathocle's map. Alhanuty ( talk) 01:14, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Some more villages have been taken by YPG yesterday and today: http://anfenglish.com/kurdistan/ypg-15-villages-liberated 8fra0 ( talk) 14:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Capture of al-Jazl gives them a direct road connection via Palmyra. Thus we can remove that superfluous dot collection Tgoll774 ( talk) 18:03, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported about clashes between NDF against ISIS in white area in the south-western countryside of Hasaka where the Syrian troops during the past two days of advances against ISIS and take control of the some areas that earlier were controlled by the "Islamic state". SOHR And pro government source reported that Syrian troops advanced in the direction city of Shaddadeh. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 13:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Lindi29 are you ISIL supporter ? you always try to prove ISIL advances and try to stop ISIL defeats . 86.135.157.236 ( talk) 18:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Top left hand corner of the 'Damascus map', which includes the town of Wadi Barada is in peace treaty and the left bottom green area south of Khan al Shih is fully Government held. This, according to anti-government researcher Christopher Kozak & the pentagon connected Institute for the Study of War (ISW). See Page 24 of the ISW report: http://understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/An%20Army%20in%20All%20Corners%20by%20Chris%20Kozak%201.pdf Is the map going to be fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.129.170 ( talk) 22:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I found out that the Islamic State's positions in Dar Kharab and Khirbat al Burj are fully surrounded by Kurdish and Free Syrian Army. Furthermore pro-Kurdish forces showed Sarrin is under the Islamic State control, but Kurds are near to there. # -- 햄방이 ( talk) 16:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
https://7496bff410df41fc380ad565a50f607d4b1e8372.googledrive.com/host/0BzN49CdHSAwmcGU4eEI5dVBGZXM/KobaniCantonKU-2015-05-25.png Shows a IS counter attack has linked Khirbat al-Furj with Sarrin and taken a stretch of M4. http://sfha.li/nasit/ This clearly shows IS holding an open air market on the Outskirts of Sarrin where YPG says they are. Obviously YPG isn't there. Sarrin must go to black. Tgoll774 ( talk) 13:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Pro opposition source Syrian Rebellion Observatory reported that after weeks of tension, FSA, Ahrar ash-Sham, Jaysh al-Islam, Al Nusra begun offensive against Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk in Daraa. here Also this source reported that the (ex-rebels and for now pro ISIS) Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk present in nearly 10 villages/strategic hills in west part of Daraa province. And that they have hundreds of fighters and dozens tanks. here Also pro thid source reported that after the fourteen hours the battles against Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk the Ahrar ash-Sham entered in the two town Bakker and Saham al-Jawlan. here and pro government source also reported that the rebels have retaking towns Saham AL-Jawlan and Bakkar after clashes with Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade (pro ISIS) here Hanibal911 ( talk) 19:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR wrote something about this. DuckZz ( talk) 21:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Syrian troops and Hezbollah taken control of most of Qalamoun, rebels fleeing north toward the outskirts of Arsal(Lebanon) The Dailt Star Hanibal911 ( talk) 15:56, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Another advace almasdar Hezbollah Captures the Western Hills of Tal Thaljah in the Qalamoun Mountains and almasdar Hezbollah Captures Al-Qaba’ and Al-Niqar on the border of Nahleh dailystar confirm this. 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 12:52, 25 May 2015
Hanibal911 There should be a rural presence icon, clashes are still reported DuckZz ( talk) 14:55, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Why all locations around Palmyra has been turned black? There are sources reporting SAA presence not far from Palmyra.. Paolowalter ( talk) 14:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR source from today. DuckZz ( talk) 14:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
This information apperas to be unfounded. Never heard by any other source. Including pro-rebel. They cannot be taken seriously. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Interesing news here and here This is pro gov source but mayby SAA not so far from Palmyra as on the map 217.99.132.128 ( talk) 22:30, 25 May 2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:25AA:1:4004:0:0:0:6E ( talk)
From http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/east-homs-erupts-with-violence-isis-attacking-multiple-areas/ it appears that SAA in still close to Palmyra and in other location in this area. SOHR info looks totally unreliable. Paolowalter ( talk) 07:00, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
In addition to Damascus map needing update, the Aleppo map also needs update. According to both pro-opp & now pro-gov sources the IS head choppers have overcome some of the red and green areas in eastern Aleppo- see this map: http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-of-the-sheikh-najjar-industrial-district-of-aleppo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.231.26.212 ( talk) 17:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 The village of Sheikh Muhammed is really small, as you can see here. Instead of that, we can remove this village and add Rasm Kabahar on the same spot because rebels should control this village because it's on the same road as Rashidiyah, probably from where of they started the attacks, because it's not possible to control Rashidiyah without Rasm Kabahar. DuckZz ( talk) 12:28, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Hanibal911 You probably don't understand the difference between being pro-opposition and being reliable. For example, Eliah Magnier is pro-government orianted, but he's reliable, so we use him as a source. This dude BosnoSin writes mostly about rebel stuff, but there's a difference because he is reliable, while not being pro-rebel (being pro-rebel means that he writes about regime, Bashar and other stuff not realated to the situation on the ground). There's not a single post by him that was actually wrong, so he has a 100% accuracy, which means he's realiable. DuckZz ( talk) 20:15, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
DuckZ you failed once again. Bosnosin calls al nusra beheaders "rebels" and reported Rashidiya captured without any evidence meanwhile it was not even half captured. 100% accuracy LOL Totholio ( talk) 21:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Why are the Jazal Oilfields IS held, when pro gov sources tell that it was never lost. I know we're not supposed to use information from the same side of the bias of the source, but this change shouldn't have happened i the first place. MesmerMe ( talk) 08:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Additional info from Al Masdar http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/the-syrian-army-finally-ousts-isis-from-the-al-shaar-mountains/. In my understanding Jazal oil filed and village should go red and Sha'er gas field should have the black hal ring removed. Furthermore it states again that SAA is not far from Palmyra, on the west side I guess. Paolowalter ( talk) 21:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi! I just want to say that there is a huge phosphate mine in the direct vincinity of Khunayfis. It is even bigger than the one in As Sawwanah Al-Sharqiyah to the east. You can easily see it on Google Maps. SOHR said it has been captured by ISIL, so could someone please add the icon there? Kolya60 ( talk) 13:11, 26 May 2015 (GMT)
This looks wrong. I heard something about al-Nusra operating there. But if we had IS bordering Israel, I imagine we'd be hearing a little about it. Banak ( talk) 20:11, 26 May 2015 (UTC) [[User:Banak|Banak] According to the data of the Israeli source pro-ISIS ex-rebel groups control some towns near Golan Heights.(Jamlah, ash-Shajarah, Bakkar, and Ain Dhakar) Also source said that according to the Free Syrian Army spokesman, the number of fighters from Al Nusra in the provinces of Quneitra and Daraa, adjacent to the Israeli and Jordanian borders, has diminished in recent weeks from 3,000 to no more than 700 fighters and that the 80-90% of al-Nusra’s fighters are locals who share the basic goals of the other rebel units, differentiating the group from the Islamic State which is more active in the north and is mostly composed of foreign fighters. The Times of Israel and earlier pro opposition source Syrian Rebellion Observatory said that the Liwa Shuhada al-Yarmouk(pro ISIS) is based in nearly 10 villages and strategic hills in west Rif Daraa. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 11:08, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
https://twitter.com/moscow_ghost/status/603221347167272960
From this map's description, the Rebels are trying to go for Khanasir, and IS is going for Ithriya. Peto Lucem retweeted it, so this map seems to be at least somewhat accepted news in the pro-Government media camp. So what I'm proposing is for that the "Army presence East of Khanisir (or whatever" marker should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.188.171 ( talk) 04:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGAXp4WW0AAaw7Z.png Pro-IS and from ANHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6eo3sYm9QI&feature=youtu.be Its clear IS still holds it otherwise It wouldn't be getting lit up like the fourth of July. Tgoll774 ( talk) 11:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Another youtube video that could have been filmed anytime , anywhere . 86.135.155.156 ( talk) 13:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
the fall of the town was honestly shocking,now there is no barrier for the kurdish forces to reach Slouk. Alhanuty ( talk) 17:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
SOHR reported that the now clashes between Syrian troops and ISIS in the vicinity of Jazal oil field and that the Syrian troops advance in this area. SOHR Also yesterday the map from the antigovernment source also showed that the positions of Syrian troops still located near the Jazal oil field. here Hanibal911 ( talk) 10:17, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
SAA Forces have retreated from Ariha per Pro Gov Source. MesmerMe ( talk) 18:17, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Yesterday I reverted some YPG advantages west of Serekaniye, because the pro-Kurdish mapper @CizireCanton had it as ISIS' territory. [9] Now he shows it as YPG controlled [10], and thats why I want to revert by edit. But is it okay to do that, when its a pro-Kurdish source?