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The infobox currently reads Porkkala Peninsula leased by the USSR for 12 years as one of the territorial changes. While this is how long the lease ended up being in practice, it risks leaving the reader with an understanding that 12 years was the full term of the agreed-upon lease. I think it'd be better to list the original lease term (50 years) in text, with perhaps an {{efn}} adding the additional information about the lease being broken early. Any thoughts?
Ljleppan (
talk) 05:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm in favor of just having 'Porkkala Peninsula leased to the USSR for 50 years'; then we can just include the note to describe how the Soviets only held it for 12 and returned it in 1956 to the Finns. Also I don't think there is any mention of the Porkkala Peninsula being returned anywhere in the article so it definitely should be added.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 17:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I added the information discussed above both in the infobox and in the 'Aftermath and Casualities' section. If you could look over both of them to ensure they fulfill what you were originally looking for I'd appreciate it.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 22:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Looks good to me!
Ljleppan (
talk) 07:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Infobox Results
In the infobox, it states 'Soviet victory' which is a completely reasonable and evident claim. However, are 3 citations really necessary? I don't think that this needs any specific references, much less three, given it's not controversial.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 21:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Not really, there isn't the same controversy about the result in this war as there is with the
Winter War.
TylerBurden (
talk) 19:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Date for British Declaration of War on Finland
I've looked throughout the article and it is repeated stated that the U.K. declared war on Finland on 6 December 1941. However, on page 54 in the second volume of the 'British Foreign Policy in the Second World War' (available through archive.org) section of the
History of the Second World War, which is the official history of British involvement throughout the war and was published by
Her Majesty's Stationery Office, it states that Britain declared war on Finland on 5 December 1941. Why is there a discrepancy between these two dates? And why is the date of 6 December frequented restated not just on this article but even in the
Finland in World War II article and various other periodical online sources? Which one should be used in this article as the official date of the declaration?
JumbledPasta (
talk) 02:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Length of Lead
The current lead is too long and needs to be shortened substanially. According to
MOS:LEADLENGTH, the lead should be compressed to about 10 to 15 sentences of 3 paragraphs, or about 300 words total. Currently, it has 607 words total and 6 paragraphs. I will be dramatically reducing the length with accordance to
WP:SS throughout the process.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 03:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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The infobox currently reads Porkkala Peninsula leased by the USSR for 12 years as one of the territorial changes. While this is how long the lease ended up being in practice, it risks leaving the reader with an understanding that 12 years was the full term of the agreed-upon lease. I think it'd be better to list the original lease term (50 years) in text, with perhaps an {{efn}} adding the additional information about the lease being broken early. Any thoughts?
Ljleppan (
talk) 05:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I'm in favor of just having 'Porkkala Peninsula leased to the USSR for 50 years'; then we can just include the note to describe how the Soviets only held it for 12 and returned it in 1956 to the Finns. Also I don't think there is any mention of the Porkkala Peninsula being returned anywhere in the article so it definitely should be added.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 17:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I added the information discussed above both in the infobox and in the 'Aftermath and Casualities' section. If you could look over both of them to ensure they fulfill what you were originally looking for I'd appreciate it.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 22:56, 12 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Looks good to me!
Ljleppan (
talk) 07:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Infobox Results
In the infobox, it states 'Soviet victory' which is a completely reasonable and evident claim. However, are 3 citations really necessary? I don't think that this needs any specific references, much less three, given it's not controversial.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 21:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Not really, there isn't the same controversy about the result in this war as there is with the
Winter War.
TylerBurden (
talk) 19:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Date for British Declaration of War on Finland
I've looked throughout the article and it is repeated stated that the U.K. declared war on Finland on 6 December 1941. However, on page 54 in the second volume of the 'British Foreign Policy in the Second World War' (available through archive.org) section of the
History of the Second World War, which is the official history of British involvement throughout the war and was published by
Her Majesty's Stationery Office, it states that Britain declared war on Finland on 5 December 1941. Why is there a discrepancy between these two dates? And why is the date of 6 December frequented restated not just on this article but even in the
Finland in World War II article and various other periodical online sources? Which one should be used in this article as the official date of the declaration?
JumbledPasta (
talk) 02:08, 21 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Length of Lead
The current lead is too long and needs to be shortened substanially. According to
MOS:LEADLENGTH, the lead should be compressed to about 10 to 15 sentences of 3 paragraphs, or about 300 words total. Currently, it has 607 words total and 6 paragraphs. I will be dramatically reducing the length with accordance to
WP:SS throughout the process.
JumbledPasta (
talk) 03:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)reply