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Would "Contemporary folk music" not be a better name for this new article? Hohenloh + 09:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes! "Contemporary folk" is too ambiguous. Another better title would be "Folk Music of the 20th century". DougHill ( talk) 19:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
While any article could use improvement in any area, I see nothing particularly problematic here to merit that global tag. It is written in sourced summary form. I plan on doing some improvements and am not concerned about the tag enough to immediately remove it, but plan to eventually take it off in a couple months. If there is any specific problem text that anyone sees, please fix it or specifically note it.North8000 ( talk) 00:43, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I posted this at the American folk music revival article: "With one major absence, I've been the most active editor at the Folk Music article. I took the approach of not dealing with possible overlaps, and built it in two halves...traditional folk music and contemporary folk music which was essentially the topic of this article. (BTW I already know that some of the main editors of this article such as User talk:Sensei48 are superior to myself on this topic.) During my absence what I had already arranged as two halves was split into two articles. Now, one of them Contemporary folk music is a 90% overlap with this article. Should we consider a merge or re-organization?" Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 02:09, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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A recent edit removed the mention of Si Kahn. I'm probably the one who put him in, a long time ago, and I don't remember. I'm neutral on inclusion, but it would be a good discussion to have. North8000 ( talk) 00:09, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Artist mentions need to be a very short list. There are two current ones where I've seen significant recent national coverage and a clearly classified as folk in sources which I'm planning to add..... Brandi Carlile and Patty Griffin. If anyone feels otherwise, I'm happy to reverse or discuss.North8000 ( talk) 23:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
An editor deleted and redirected the Country Folk article to this article. The indicated the reason as the article being in existence for 11 years with no sources. Then they copied the entire sourceless contents of the deleted article into this article. This is not an implied criticism of the action as it it could be seen as a transition phase to where the overall picture needs to end up. But we clearly have a large amount of material that is both unsourced and of a quantity that is wp:undue to the top level contemporary folk music article. The lack of sources for 11 years could even be an indicator that this genre / topic does not even exist. In any event based on this rationale, I plan to substantially pare the added material. North8000 ( talk) 14:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Read the article, and more specifically this source, which clearly states that contemporary folk is "a term of art to describe music that people characterize as "folk," though it is not traditional in a strict sense.". In other words, contemporary folk music is still folk music. Synthwave.94 ( talk) 14:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
(there is also a related discussion at the folk music article.) Genre names are always vague and subjective. For folk music in particular this has gone through much discussion and changes on Wikipedia over the last 15 years. The current wiki approach for the top level article(s) is considering that the 20th century revival basically created a new more or less different genre, also called "folk music", to recognize and cover both, and do our best at giving them article titles. There's more on the Folk music talk page regarding this. North8000 ( talk) 17:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Being brief......my last few wiki minutes for 9 days. There are three different questions combined into one:
If anyone is interested, I'd suggest that the next step would be to try to incubate/test #2 by development/improvement of it as a section within this article. IMO it would be difficult because of the reduction and dispersal of the use of the term. North8000 ( talk) 11:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
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At Template:Infobox_music_genre#image, the instructions tell us not to use a photo of a particular musical artist at the top, to represent a broad genre. Binksternet ( talk) 20:48, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
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Would "Contemporary folk music" not be a better name for this new article? Hohenloh + 09:58, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes! "Contemporary folk" is too ambiguous. Another better title would be "Folk Music of the 20th century". DougHill ( talk) 19:36, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
While any article could use improvement in any area, I see nothing particularly problematic here to merit that global tag. It is written in sourced summary form. I plan on doing some improvements and am not concerned about the tag enough to immediately remove it, but plan to eventually take it off in a couple months. If there is any specific problem text that anyone sees, please fix it or specifically note it.North8000 ( talk) 00:43, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I posted this at the American folk music revival article: "With one major absence, I've been the most active editor at the Folk Music article. I took the approach of not dealing with possible overlaps, and built it in two halves...traditional folk music and contemporary folk music which was essentially the topic of this article. (BTW I already know that some of the main editors of this article such as User talk:Sensei48 are superior to myself on this topic.) During my absence what I had already arranged as two halves was split into two articles. Now, one of them Contemporary folk music is a 90% overlap with this article. Should we consider a merge or re-organization?" Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 02:09, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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A recent edit removed the mention of Si Kahn. I'm probably the one who put him in, a long time ago, and I don't remember. I'm neutral on inclusion, but it would be a good discussion to have. North8000 ( talk) 00:09, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Artist mentions need to be a very short list. There are two current ones where I've seen significant recent national coverage and a clearly classified as folk in sources which I'm planning to add..... Brandi Carlile and Patty Griffin. If anyone feels otherwise, I'm happy to reverse or discuss.North8000 ( talk) 23:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
An editor deleted and redirected the Country Folk article to this article. The indicated the reason as the article being in existence for 11 years with no sources. Then they copied the entire sourceless contents of the deleted article into this article. This is not an implied criticism of the action as it it could be seen as a transition phase to where the overall picture needs to end up. But we clearly have a large amount of material that is both unsourced and of a quantity that is wp:undue to the top level contemporary folk music article. The lack of sources for 11 years could even be an indicator that this genre / topic does not even exist. In any event based on this rationale, I plan to substantially pare the added material. North8000 ( talk) 14:31, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Read the article, and more specifically this source, which clearly states that contemporary folk is "a term of art to describe music that people characterize as "folk," though it is not traditional in a strict sense.". In other words, contemporary folk music is still folk music. Synthwave.94 ( talk) 14:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
(there is also a related discussion at the folk music article.) Genre names are always vague and subjective. For folk music in particular this has gone through much discussion and changes on Wikipedia over the last 15 years. The current wiki approach for the top level article(s) is considering that the 20th century revival basically created a new more or less different genre, also called "folk music", to recognize and cover both, and do our best at giving them article titles. There's more on the Folk music talk page regarding this. North8000 ( talk) 17:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Being brief......my last few wiki minutes for 9 days. There are three different questions combined into one:
If anyone is interested, I'd suggest that the next step would be to try to incubate/test #2 by development/improvement of it as a section within this article. IMO it would be difficult because of the reduction and dispersal of the use of the term. North8000 ( talk) 11:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 9 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Crustpunklibrarian ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Crustpunklibrarian ( talk) 13:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
At Template:Infobox_music_genre#image, the instructions tell us not to use a photo of a particular musical artist at the top, to represent a broad genre. Binksternet ( talk) 20:48, 11 June 2023 (UTC)