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I liked that remark about Constantine V persecuting nuns and monks by forcing them to hold hands in the Hippodrome. I always was against holding hands in church. I never do it, especially if it's a guy next to me. Smartalec
One of the greatest emperors ever.A great general, and an innovative ruler.Crushed the caliphate and rescued europe from the arabs.Also crused the Bulgars and humiliated the Pope by saying "I am the king and the priest" when the pope didn't obey him. This article needs expansion.
Only did it in there bloodiest civil war when they couldn’t afford to send an army to the northern front, afterwards abbasids came and crushed byzantines and they started paying the jizyah bruh — Preceding
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Someone needs to find out and write up why history calls him Copronymous (Poop Name) Marty4286 21:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
-Theophanes uses the term "kopronymos". See "Annus Mundi 6211" for the entry, or pp. 91-92 in Turtledove's translation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.159.122.236 ( talk) 20:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I posit that the use of the phrase "image worship" in this article endorses the point of view of Iconoclasm and ought to be changed. The veneration of icons is not image worship, and is only refered to as such by its detractors. I will try and remember to check back in a while, and change this if there aren't legitimate objections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.120.38 ( talk) 01:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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A have a number of over-arching concerns regarding this article, to the extent that I am not sure if it is ready for GAN. But let's see what we can do. Not e the comments below re words to watch and attribution. In many cases, not all specified below, terms (eg associate, palatine) or concepts (eg iconoclasm, circus factions) are introduced with no explanation; the article needs amending to be comprehensible to a lay reader. Also the order of the sections seems odd. There are three on military events, interrupted by two on iconoclasm and domestic policy. There are other issues, but these should be enough for now.
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Haven't the time now - just immediately fail please. Urselius ( talk) 17:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
I have made a couple of minor copy edits which you will want to check.
Done
Done
Replaced with 'acclaimed'
Yes, the box was created by Cplakadis (Constantine), I think, I don't know how to access it for editing
Have changed wording
Deleted "his own"
Deleted
I would defend 'active' as we know that Byzantine mobs were very physical, hence the Modern Greek 'moutza' gesture, deriving from the mob smearing their victims with unpleasant matter, and the evidence of the casual torture of Andronikos I as he was paraded through Constantinople.
It wasn't a definite 'heresy' at the time, but, although it had a political dimension, is was at heart religious - I would prefer 'religious conviction'
Done
Done
Well, if the emperor was campaigning in the east he would probably have a field army consisting of the tagmata plus mainly the Armeniac and Anatolic thematic troops, if campaigning in the Balkans then the army would probably consist of the tagmata plus mostly the Thracian, Opsikian, Bukkelarian and Thrakesian thematic troops. Two different field armies, both with a core of the tagmata.
I would defend the importance/notability of the porphyra. It wasn't a large building but its political importance in guaranteeing the legitimacy of imperial children was immense. The Stone of Scone is a small and nondescript piece of rock, nowhere near the size of a megalith, but it has huge notability.
The 'accouchement of pregnant empresses' would be better and more accurate, but less understandable - have changed the wording, though it is now more 'wordy'
Changed
More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Again I have made a couple of copy edits. Again, flag up anything you are not happy with.
Done, sort of
Done
Done, except at the start of the 'Assement' section, where it seems appropriate.
Looks like a fine, solid piece of work to me. More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 13:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! I unearthed more additional material than I thought was out there.
Gog the Mild ( talk) 20:35, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is comprehensive, neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated appropriately. Passing. Great work!
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Hi there The lead says below Constantine v that he’s a writer This is a fat mistake right? Whatsupkarren ( talk) 18:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
As i did read the sources put in the article, i strangely didn’t find anything approving in the claim put After reading the contemporary sources, still couldn’t find anything about it, and it didn’t mention that an army marched at that year. I would politely ask to remove this claim, since no sources approves in it. FF0010 ( talk) 23:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
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I liked that remark about Constantine V persecuting nuns and monks by forcing them to hold hands in the Hippodrome. I always was against holding hands in church. I never do it, especially if it's a guy next to me. Smartalec
One of the greatest emperors ever.A great general, and an innovative ruler.Crushed the caliphate and rescued europe from the arabs.Also crused the Bulgars and humiliated the Pope by saying "I am the king and the priest" when the pope didn't obey him. This article needs expansion.
Only did it in there bloodiest civil war when they couldn’t afford to send an army to the northern front, afterwards abbasids came and crushed byzantines and they started paying the jizyah bruh — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
FF0010 (
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23:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Someone needs to find out and write up why history calls him Copronymous (Poop Name) Marty4286 21:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
-Theophanes uses the term "kopronymos". See "Annus Mundi 6211" for the entry, or pp. 91-92 in Turtledove's translation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.159.122.236 ( talk) 20:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I posit that the use of the phrase "image worship" in this article endorses the point of view of Iconoclasm and ought to be changed. The veneration of icons is not image worship, and is only refered to as such by its detractors. I will try and remember to check back in a while, and change this if there aren't legitimate objections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.120.38 ( talk) 01:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Gog the Mild ( talk · contribs) 22:01, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
A have a number of over-arching concerns regarding this article, to the extent that I am not sure if it is ready for GAN. But let's see what we can do. Not e the comments below re words to watch and attribution. In many cases, not all specified below, terms (eg associate, palatine) or concepts (eg iconoclasm, circus factions) are introduced with no explanation; the article needs amending to be comprehensible to a lay reader. Also the order of the sections seems odd. There are three on military events, interrupted by two on iconoclasm and domestic policy. There are other issues, but these should be enough for now.
Gog the Mild ( talk) 14:19, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Additionally:
Gog the Mild ( talk) 10:53, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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Haven't the time now - just immediately fail please. Urselius ( talk) 17:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Gog the Mild ( talk · contribs) 17:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
I have made a couple of minor copy edits which you will want to check.
Done
Done
Replaced with 'acclaimed'
Yes, the box was created by Cplakadis (Constantine), I think, I don't know how to access it for editing
Have changed wording
Deleted "his own"
Deleted
I would defend 'active' as we know that Byzantine mobs were very physical, hence the Modern Greek 'moutza' gesture, deriving from the mob smearing their victims with unpleasant matter, and the evidence of the casual torture of Andronikos I as he was paraded through Constantinople.
It wasn't a definite 'heresy' at the time, but, although it had a political dimension, is was at heart religious - I would prefer 'religious conviction'
Done
Done
Well, if the emperor was campaigning in the east he would probably have a field army consisting of the tagmata plus mainly the Armeniac and Anatolic thematic troops, if campaigning in the Balkans then the army would probably consist of the tagmata plus mostly the Thracian, Opsikian, Bukkelarian and Thrakesian thematic troops. Two different field armies, both with a core of the tagmata.
I would defend the importance/notability of the porphyra. It wasn't a large building but its political importance in guaranteeing the legitimacy of imperial children was immense. The Stone of Scone is a small and nondescript piece of rock, nowhere near the size of a megalith, but it has huge notability.
The 'accouchement of pregnant empresses' would be better and more accurate, but less understandable - have changed the wording, though it is now more 'wordy'
Changed
More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 17:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Again I have made a couple of copy edits. Again, flag up anything you are not happy with.
Done, sort of
Done
Done, except at the start of the 'Assement' section, where it seems appropriate.
Looks like a fine, solid piece of work to me. More to follow. Gog the Mild ( talk) 13:29, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! I unearthed more additional material than I thought was out there.
Gog the Mild ( talk) 20:35, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is comprehensive, neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated appropriately. Passing. Great work!
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Hi there The lead says below Constantine v that he’s a writer This is a fat mistake right? Whatsupkarren ( talk) 18:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
As i did read the sources put in the article, i strangely didn’t find anything approving in the claim put After reading the contemporary sources, still couldn’t find anything about it, and it didn’t mention that an army marched at that year. I would politely ask to remove this claim, since no sources approves in it. FF0010 ( talk) 23:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)