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It appears that the link to reference #4 ("The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress vs. the Consolidated B-24 Liberator". warfarehistorynetwork.com.) is outdated. It leads to a 404 page. The article has been moved here: https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2017/06/30/boeing-b-17-flying-fortress-vs-the-consolidated-b-24-liberator/ I'd update it myself, but I'm still accruing edits, and so lack permission to edit this page myself. Also, the source I listed doesn't mention a general staff, and the other source (Birsdall, 1968) is rather vague; I believe it refers to "Famous Aircraft: The B-24 Liberator", Birdsall, 1968. Perhaps include the title to make it easier to find? EducatedRedneck ( talk) 22:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Please note, there is an incorrect picture caption on the article: /info/en/?search=Consolidated_B-24_Liberator
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"It serves in every branch of the American armed forces"
Yet the article listing the plane's users only mentions USAAF and Navy. What about the other armed forces? Is there a source for this claim? -- 84.189.84.17 ( talk) 22:52, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I removed the requests for citation, and I moved my original citation to the bottom of the paragraph. Whiz Kids is the entire source of the paragraph. A valid discussion point is that "Tex" Thornton was (not unjustifiably) pissed off, and possibly out to get the B-24s. JHowardGibson ( talk) 18:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I have not flown the B24, but I have many hours on DC3/Dakota, which used the P&WR1830 engine - stated to be the same as the Lib. I have not ever seen an 1830 turbosupercharged, and I don't believe that a supercharged engine like the 1830 could sensibly be turbo-ed as well. The 1830 in C47/DC3/Dakota use could be single stage or twin stage supercharged, and in those configurations (and in good order) produced 1200 horsepower. I suspect that an editor with insufficient knowledge has amended the article. I have therefore changed the engine description to read supercharged. Lexysexy ( talk) 05:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Hovering over Frontal Area under Specifications shows me the page preview for the term "Zero-lift drag coefficient" (which happens to be right above it), instead. I'd edit it myself, but I cannot as I am new. Johnlandrum77 ( talk) 10:45, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
In the Production section, it states “ Bell Aircraft built the B-24 under license at a factory near Marietta, Georgia, just northwest of Atlanta. Online by mid-1943, the new plant produced hundreds of B-24 Liberator bombers”. Bell Aircraft did not build the B-24, they built the B-29 in 1943. This statement needs to be removed. There was only five production plants in the Liberator Pool. Consolidated in San Diego and Ft. Worth, Ford at Willow Run, North American at Dallas and Douglas Aircraft in Tulsa, OK. Lanemiker ( talk) 11:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
The given frontal area is less than the area of one of the propellers, a rough approximation of the frontal area would be closer to 100 m^2. The link is also broken 35.2.137.17 ( talk) 01:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Reading the article section under "Armament" there is a reference to a "tunnel gun" as an alternative to the lower turret. This is the sentence I am referring to: "The turret proved unsatisfactory and was soon replaced by a tunnel gun, which was itself omitted. "
I was unfamiliar with this term and found this short reference which I think the term should perhaps link to: https://worldwar2database.com/b-24d-liberator-tunnel-machine-gun/
Also that sentence is a bit awkward. Perhaps what was meant was "which was itself later omitted." ChucklesSmith ( talk) 15:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi there! I am busy translating this article into Afrikaans where it hopefully will become a front page article. I am battling somewhat with some of the abbreviations, especially in the paragraph named Radar/Electronic warfare and PGM deployment. Is BS = Bombardment Squadron? What is RS? Clarification will be appreciated! Regards! Oesjaar ( talk) 13:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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It appears that the link to reference #4 ("The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress vs. the Consolidated B-24 Liberator". warfarehistorynetwork.com.) is outdated. It leads to a 404 page. The article has been moved here: https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2017/06/30/boeing-b-17-flying-fortress-vs-the-consolidated-b-24-liberator/ I'd update it myself, but I'm still accruing edits, and so lack permission to edit this page myself. Also, the source I listed doesn't mention a general staff, and the other source (Birsdall, 1968) is rather vague; I believe it refers to "Famous Aircraft: The B-24 Liberator", Birdsall, 1968. Perhaps include the title to make it easier to find? EducatedRedneck ( talk) 22:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
Please note, there is an incorrect picture caption on the article: /info/en/?search=Consolidated_B-24_Liberator
Reference "File information" here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Willow_Run_Factory.jpg
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"It serves in every branch of the American armed forces"
Yet the article listing the plane's users only mentions USAAF and Navy. What about the other armed forces? Is there a source for this claim? -- 84.189.84.17 ( talk) 22:52, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
I removed the requests for citation, and I moved my original citation to the bottom of the paragraph. Whiz Kids is the entire source of the paragraph. A valid discussion point is that "Tex" Thornton was (not unjustifiably) pissed off, and possibly out to get the B-24s. JHowardGibson ( talk) 18:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
I have not flown the B24, but I have many hours on DC3/Dakota, which used the P&WR1830 engine - stated to be the same as the Lib. I have not ever seen an 1830 turbosupercharged, and I don't believe that a supercharged engine like the 1830 could sensibly be turbo-ed as well. The 1830 in C47/DC3/Dakota use could be single stage or twin stage supercharged, and in those configurations (and in good order) produced 1200 horsepower. I suspect that an editor with insufficient knowledge has amended the article. I have therefore changed the engine description to read supercharged. Lexysexy ( talk) 05:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Hovering over Frontal Area under Specifications shows me the page preview for the term "Zero-lift drag coefficient" (which happens to be right above it), instead. I'd edit it myself, but I cannot as I am new. Johnlandrum77 ( talk) 10:45, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
In the Production section, it states “ Bell Aircraft built the B-24 under license at a factory near Marietta, Georgia, just northwest of Atlanta. Online by mid-1943, the new plant produced hundreds of B-24 Liberator bombers”. Bell Aircraft did not build the B-24, they built the B-29 in 1943. This statement needs to be removed. There was only five production plants in the Liberator Pool. Consolidated in San Diego and Ft. Worth, Ford at Willow Run, North American at Dallas and Douglas Aircraft in Tulsa, OK. Lanemiker ( talk) 11:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
The given frontal area is less than the area of one of the propellers, a rough approximation of the frontal area would be closer to 100 m^2. The link is also broken 35.2.137.17 ( talk) 01:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Reading the article section under "Armament" there is a reference to a "tunnel gun" as an alternative to the lower turret. This is the sentence I am referring to: "The turret proved unsatisfactory and was soon replaced by a tunnel gun, which was itself omitted. "
I was unfamiliar with this term and found this short reference which I think the term should perhaps link to: https://worldwar2database.com/b-24d-liberator-tunnel-machine-gun/
Also that sentence is a bit awkward. Perhaps what was meant was "which was itself later omitted." ChucklesSmith ( talk) 15:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi there! I am busy translating this article into Afrikaans where it hopefully will become a front page article. I am battling somewhat with some of the abbreviations, especially in the paragraph named Radar/Electronic warfare and PGM deployment. Is BS = Bombardment Squadron? What is RS? Clarification will be appreciated! Regards! Oesjaar ( talk) 13:14, 21 July 2024 (UTC)