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The result of the proposal was no conclusion, default to not moved. The discussion below established that both names are valid, without overwhelming preference for one or the other. In the absence of a need for disambiguation so far, default to no change. Der yck C. 11:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Connie Mak → Kitman Mak – Her stage name was Connie while she was on contract with Crown Records. Then she became Kitman after she left Crown. Some sources declare her as Kitman. Nevertheless, I'm torn. --Relisted Cúchullain t/ c 20:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 01:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC) -- George Ho ( talk) 23:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. — Darkwind ( talk) 00:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Connie Mak →
Connie Mak Kitman – At first, I doubt that combining English and romanized names are used. However, I learned that
Ivy Ling Po is unbeatable, and there is no naming conventions guideline for Hong Kong people. The prior request to prefer "Kitman Mak" failed, so this time I request including "Kitman" in the title. --Relisted. —
Darkwind (
talk) 05:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
George Ho (
talk)
06:31, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the page to Connie Mak Kit-man, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 02:16, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Connie Mak → Kitman Mak – Or Kit-man Mak or Connie Mak Kit-man? In later years, she dropped the name "Connie" in favor of 麥潔文, especially when she quit one record label and then signed contracts with another major one. Later albums didn't use "Connie Mak" ( [1] [2] [3]. Compilations use "Connie Mak" ( [4] [5]) only when she no longer works for these record companies. 1985 article refers her as "Connie Mak". Yahoo recently uses the name, but I don't know. "Kitman Mak" is used by Star, Sun, this and RTHK. "Connie Mak" isn't as common as it was in 1980s. Well, she wasn't popular outside HK or China when she used English and Chinese names. Both names are used recently, so it comes down to WP:DIVIDEDUSE. If we can't use "Connie Mak Kit-man", which SCMP uses, then Kitman or Kit-man? If we can extend to Chinese sources rather than stick to English-only ones, then this source also uses "Kitman". George Ho ( talk) 11:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Not moved for lack of a clear consensus to move. This is a very difficult call, as it is a very close dispute, but it is problematic that there is no proposed move target that appears to be the clear best target. bd2412 T 00:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Connie Mak Kit-man → Connie Mak – This needs to go back to Connie Mak or Kit-man Mak, not something long like the current title. TheAvatar ( discuss– ?) 16:52, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
There's no standard for Hong Kong names nor there is a naming convention specific for Hong Kong names, it needs to follow either the English convention name Connie Mak, or Chinese convention Kit-man Mak. Even the guideline provide in the WP:NCP suggested Most biographical articles have titles in the form <First name> <Last name>. I'd like to see where it says <Last name> <First name> <Last name> can be tolerated. TheAvatar ( discuss– ?) 18:19, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
It can happen that an otherwise notable topic has not yet received much attention in the English-speaking world, so that there are too few English sources to constitute an established usage." Connie Mak Kit-man has been seldom covered by reliable English-language sources, so her name must be "Connie Mak Kit-man". -- George Ho ( talk) 21:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was no conclusion, default to not moved. The discussion below established that both names are valid, without overwhelming preference for one or the other. In the absence of a need for disambiguation so far, default to no change. Der yck C. 11:50, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Connie Mak → Kitman Mak – Her stage name was Connie while she was on contract with Crown Records. Then she became Kitman after she left Crown. Some sources declare her as Kitman. Nevertheless, I'm torn. --Relisted Cúchullain t/ c 20:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 01:33, 30 May 2012 (UTC) -- George Ho ( talk) 23:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no consensus. — Darkwind ( talk) 00:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
Connie Mak →
Connie Mak Kitman – At first, I doubt that combining English and romanized names are used. However, I learned that
Ivy Ling Po is unbeatable, and there is no naming conventions guideline for Hong Kong people. The prior request to prefer "Kitman Mak" failed, so this time I request including "Kitman" in the title. --Relisted. —
Darkwind (
talk) 05:49, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
George Ho (
talk)
06:31, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: move the page to Connie Mak Kit-man, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 02:16, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Connie Mak → Kitman Mak – Or Kit-man Mak or Connie Mak Kit-man? In later years, she dropped the name "Connie" in favor of 麥潔文, especially when she quit one record label and then signed contracts with another major one. Later albums didn't use "Connie Mak" ( [1] [2] [3]. Compilations use "Connie Mak" ( [4] [5]) only when she no longer works for these record companies. 1985 article refers her as "Connie Mak". Yahoo recently uses the name, but I don't know. "Kitman Mak" is used by Star, Sun, this and RTHK. "Connie Mak" isn't as common as it was in 1980s. Well, she wasn't popular outside HK or China when she used English and Chinese names. Both names are used recently, so it comes down to WP:DIVIDEDUSE. If we can't use "Connie Mak Kit-man", which SCMP uses, then Kitman or Kit-man? If we can extend to Chinese sources rather than stick to English-only ones, then this source also uses "Kitman". George Ho ( talk) 11:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Not moved for lack of a clear consensus to move. This is a very difficult call, as it is a very close dispute, but it is problematic that there is no proposed move target that appears to be the clear best target. bd2412 T 00:38, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Connie Mak Kit-man → Connie Mak – This needs to go back to Connie Mak or Kit-man Mak, not something long like the current title. TheAvatar ( discuss– ?) 16:52, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
There's no standard for Hong Kong names nor there is a naming convention specific for Hong Kong names, it needs to follow either the English convention name Connie Mak, or Chinese convention Kit-man Mak. Even the guideline provide in the WP:NCP suggested Most biographical articles have titles in the form <First name> <Last name>. I'd like to see where it says <Last name> <First name> <Last name> can be tolerated. TheAvatar ( discuss– ?) 18:19, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
It can happen that an otherwise notable topic has not yet received much attention in the English-speaking world, so that there are too few English sources to constitute an established usage." Connie Mak Kit-man has been seldom covered by reliable English-language sources, so her name must be "Connie Mak Kit-man". -- George Ho ( talk) 21:06, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
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