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I found an anonymous editor had reverted major additions to this page under the guise of a "fixed typo". In particular, the section disclosing the conviction for rape and sexual abuse of a minor under the age of 12 by founding member and key songwriter Brandon Tussey was removed. Given the nature of the ghost/ninja edit, it is clear this was an ill-natured revision. Further, it begs the question whether Tussey himself or another band member may be editing the page, which is of course a violation of the Wikipedia terms of use.
I have reverted the edit, improved the former copy, and updated the page with some more recent news on the band. The events leading to the exit of a founding member and key songwriter are extremely relevant to a band's history, and this is not unlike any other band's page, which contains controversial historical information, whether the member is still affiliated with said band or not (see Metallica, Motley Crue, Black Flag, Red Hot Chili Peppers, or any band with a colored history). I will now be keeping a closer watch on this page. If the editor who made the ninja edit were a real user, I would invite a discussion with them, but they aren't so this comes close to falling under vandalism. Brakoholic —Preceding undated comment added 20:16, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Calling @ Certainstars: and any other editors of this page who have helped me defend previous ghost/ninja edits to controversial content relating to the band.
Below I have copied an exchange that was left on my user talk page. That was, in my estimation, an intentional misplacement to prevent outside attention from being drawn to the matter. Some who seek to remove this content from this page have finally done so without anonymity or dishonest guise of "typos", etc., and are attempting to remove this relevant, important public information about the band and its principal songwriter. I have replied to their comments with further source information proving the accuracy of this information and have shown evidence that this information is relevant to the band's history. As is evidenced by previous comments I have made below, I am a fan of this band. I do not seek to include this information lightly. It belongs here.
If you are an editor or frequent visitor of this page, please be aware of continued attempts to censor and sully the authenticity of this page. Brakoholic ( talk) 00:35, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
This page had no actual sources and was written rather poorly so I cleaned it up and added some citations where I could. It could still stand to be improved, and there are certain passages, like references to Guitar School that cite an issue, but provide no actual reference, that I will remove if they are not properly cited. Brakoholic ( talk) 02:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
The Connie Dungs were the flagship band of the American underground label Mutant Pop Records in the mid to late 1990s. This is a period of time acknowledged as THE peak of American Underground Pop Punk. The Connie Dungs, therefore, represent an underground music movement, not unlike early Green Day for the Gilman scene in the early 1990s. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I have added this assertion to the page and thus the page no longer meets this criteria for speedy deletion. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I object to the deletion of this page because, as stated in the article, The Connie Dungs are representative of a particular genre and music scene, namely, American underground or independent pop punk of the mid to late 1990s. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
What does this part of the AfD notice mean? "You may remove this message if you improve the article, or if you otherwise object to deletion of the article for any reason." Also: "To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, it should not be replaced." CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
"If this template is removed, it should not be replaced." CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Note: I retroactively signed all my statements after I became aware of this convention and how to do so. CDaniel 19:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
This article was nominated for deletion on 23 June 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard. |
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I found an anonymous editor had reverted major additions to this page under the guise of a "fixed typo". In particular, the section disclosing the conviction for rape and sexual abuse of a minor under the age of 12 by founding member and key songwriter Brandon Tussey was removed. Given the nature of the ghost/ninja edit, it is clear this was an ill-natured revision. Further, it begs the question whether Tussey himself or another band member may be editing the page, which is of course a violation of the Wikipedia terms of use.
I have reverted the edit, improved the former copy, and updated the page with some more recent news on the band. The events leading to the exit of a founding member and key songwriter are extremely relevant to a band's history, and this is not unlike any other band's page, which contains controversial historical information, whether the member is still affiliated with said band or not (see Metallica, Motley Crue, Black Flag, Red Hot Chili Peppers, or any band with a colored history). I will now be keeping a closer watch on this page. If the editor who made the ninja edit were a real user, I would invite a discussion with them, but they aren't so this comes close to falling under vandalism. Brakoholic —Preceding undated comment added 20:16, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Calling @ Certainstars: and any other editors of this page who have helped me defend previous ghost/ninja edits to controversial content relating to the band.
Below I have copied an exchange that was left on my user talk page. That was, in my estimation, an intentional misplacement to prevent outside attention from being drawn to the matter. Some who seek to remove this content from this page have finally done so without anonymity or dishonest guise of "typos", etc., and are attempting to remove this relevant, important public information about the band and its principal songwriter. I have replied to their comments with further source information proving the accuracy of this information and have shown evidence that this information is relevant to the band's history. As is evidenced by previous comments I have made below, I am a fan of this band. I do not seek to include this information lightly. It belongs here.
If you are an editor or frequent visitor of this page, please be aware of continued attempts to censor and sully the authenticity of this page. Brakoholic ( talk) 00:35, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
This page had no actual sources and was written rather poorly so I cleaned it up and added some citations where I could. It could still stand to be improved, and there are certain passages, like references to Guitar School that cite an issue, but provide no actual reference, that I will remove if they are not properly cited. Brakoholic ( talk) 02:42, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
The Connie Dungs were the flagship band of the American underground label Mutant Pop Records in the mid to late 1990s. This is a period of time acknowledged as THE peak of American Underground Pop Punk. The Connie Dungs, therefore, represent an underground music movement, not unlike early Green Day for the Gilman scene in the early 1990s. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I have added this assertion to the page and thus the page no longer meets this criteria for speedy deletion. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I object to the deletion of this page because, as stated in the article, The Connie Dungs are representative of a particular genre and music scene, namely, American underground or independent pop punk of the mid to late 1990s. CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
What does this part of the AfD notice mean? "You may remove this message if you improve the article, or if you otherwise object to deletion of the article for any reason." Also: "To avoid confusion, it helps to explain why you object to the deletion, either in the edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, it should not be replaced." CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
"If this template is removed, it should not be replaced." CDaniel 19:08, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Note: I retroactively signed all my statements after I became aware of this convention and how to do so. CDaniel 19:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)