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Just because the image is at the top of Atreyu's MySpace page, does not automatically make it the cover art. This constitutes as original research. It looks more like a logo to me. A reliable source should be provided to verify what this image is. So far, there are zero sources claiming this image to be the cover art. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and information about future events without proper sourcing is considered speculation. Fezmar9 ( talk) 23:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
There are several issues with the use of the "Stop! Before It's Too Late and We've Destroyed It All" clip. The first being the the length is a copyright violation. According to copyright laws, "unlicensed music samples should generally not be longer than 30 seconds or 10% of the length of the original song, whichever is shorter." The full length of the song is 3:56, and 10% of that would be 23.8 seconds. The clip is currently running at 28 seconds. It may not sound like much of a difference to the average person, but copyright laws on fair use material are very specific. The suggested audio quality for a clip is roughly 64kbps, the clip is currently at 110kbps. Also, it is suggested that the clip helps illustrate prose. Aside from the song being released on the band's MySpace, there is nothing of substance within this article. The clip seems rather decorative. Either it should be removed or the article should be expanded and issues should be fixed. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:52, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, neither the album nor the single have been released to the public outside of the band's MySpace profile. Is it safe to assume this is a rip from their MySpace player or from a leaked version? There seem to be way too many issues with this little clip. I am going to go ahead and remove it. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:27, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone even heard the new album? It is NOT metalcore at all, it is post-hardcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.129.168 ( talk) 05:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Really? at least 6-7 songs are clearly metalcore... anyway allmusic says metalcore so it doesnt really matter if we think. Ducky610 ( talk) 12:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
According to WP:ALBUMS#Professional reviews, "Professional reviews may include only reviews written by professional music journalists or DJs, or found within any online or print publication having a (paid or volunteer) editorial and writing staff (which excludes personal blogs). The standard for inclusion always is that the review meet Wikipedia's guideline for reliable sources and that the source be independent of the artist, record company, etc." MetalSucks has a clear and defined writing staff according to their About Us section and is independent of both Atreyu and Hollywood Records. A quick search for the author and site turn up 15,400 search results (which is several times more than can be said for the author from the allmusic review) which certainly establishes notability. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
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Just because the image is at the top of Atreyu's MySpace page, does not automatically make it the cover art. This constitutes as original research. It looks more like a logo to me. A reliable source should be provided to verify what this image is. So far, there are zero sources claiming this image to be the cover art. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and information about future events without proper sourcing is considered speculation. Fezmar9 ( talk) 23:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
There are several issues with the use of the "Stop! Before It's Too Late and We've Destroyed It All" clip. The first being the the length is a copyright violation. According to copyright laws, "unlicensed music samples should generally not be longer than 30 seconds or 10% of the length of the original song, whichever is shorter." The full length of the song is 3:56, and 10% of that would be 23.8 seconds. The clip is currently running at 28 seconds. It may not sound like much of a difference to the average person, but copyright laws on fair use material are very specific. The suggested audio quality for a clip is roughly 64kbps, the clip is currently at 110kbps. Also, it is suggested that the clip helps illustrate prose. Aside from the song being released on the band's MySpace, there is nothing of substance within this article. The clip seems rather decorative. Either it should be removed or the article should be expanded and issues should be fixed. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:52, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Also, neither the album nor the single have been released to the public outside of the band's MySpace profile. Is it safe to assume this is a rip from their MySpace player or from a leaked version? There seem to be way too many issues with this little clip. I am going to go ahead and remove it. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:27, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone even heard the new album? It is NOT metalcore at all, it is post-hardcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.129.168 ( talk) 05:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Really? at least 6-7 songs are clearly metalcore... anyway allmusic says metalcore so it doesnt really matter if we think. Ducky610 ( talk) 12:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
According to WP:ALBUMS#Professional reviews, "Professional reviews may include only reviews written by professional music journalists or DJs, or found within any online or print publication having a (paid or volunteer) editorial and writing staff (which excludes personal blogs). The standard for inclusion always is that the review meet Wikipedia's guideline for reliable sources and that the source be independent of the artist, record company, etc." MetalSucks has a clear and defined writing staff according to their About Us section and is independent of both Atreyu and Hollywood Records. A quick search for the author and site turn up 15,400 search results (which is several times more than can be said for the author from the allmusic review) which certainly establishes notability. Fezmar9 ( talk) 19:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
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